Nokia's ex-camera guru Damian Dinning unimpressed with the HTC One UltraPixel camera

Nokia's ex-camera guru Damian Dinning unimpressed with the HTC One UltraPixel camera
Nokia's former camera sensei Damian Dinning took to Twitter commenting on the HTC One handset unveiled yesterday and the UltraPixel camera concept: "Did I miss something today?? Thought HTC were introducing a breakthrough camera?? Read the whole press release but no, couldn't find it."

As for the optical image stabilization inside the HTC One, which is similar to the one in the Lumia 920, but has compensation for up to two thousand movements per second, Damian says: "that maybe their 'spec' but it only works to 1/7.5 vs Nokia's 1/3 sec."

The conversation in his Twitter feed also hovers around the fact that it is just a normal size sensor optimized for larger pixels yet with 4 MP output, and the results from a juggernaut like the 808 PureView would be much better, since in its automatic 5 MP mode the effective pixel size is 3.85 microns against the HTC One's 2 microns.

It is hard to judge whether this is a case of sour grapes before we make a camera comparison of the HTC One with the Lumia 920 and other flagship handsets, though, yet it is certainly commendable that Nokia's PureView phenomenon forced everyone to think long and hard about the cameras they put in their smartphones, and at least HTC was brave enough to buck the megapixel war trend and try to refocus its camera efforts where it counts.

source: @PhoneDaz (Twitter)

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1. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

At least their making new ways with their camera ex guru

11. Sarajevo

Posts: 38; Member since: Nov 30, 2012

Yeah, but that is not reason for HTC to provoke Nokia. They want to compare UltraPixel with PureView and announce it like competition tp PV, but that is not comparable at all. But, they deserve credit for their aims to make some inovations, unless it is way to sell ordinary thing under the diff name.

57. LDnb6

Posts: 6; Member since: Feb 05, 2013

Umm how do u know if its comparable or not no one has com paired it LOL... And if this super high MP camera is so great on the 808(which just to remind everyone was terrible and sold horrible and didn't even make it to the U.S at all) why didn't they put it on there real flagship the 920.

59. Birds

Posts: 1172; Member since: Nov 21, 2011

For one the 808 is a niche device and isn't built for the general phone users...I can explain this all I want to but this is not my point in replying. The 808 pure view has a large camera. That makes for a very chunky phone. A flagship device shouldn't really be too thick and should be well rounded. That is why the 920 didn't have the Pureview Phase 1 camera. Nokia is working on putting the Pureview Phase 1 camera on a WP8 device, but the 920 was a market must have, or Nokia would have risked quite a bit to wait for so long.

2. No_Nonsense unregistered

If the first sample images are any indication, then its certainly not a case of sour grapes. Forget the 808, the sample images don't come close to the N8 (almost a 3 year old device). But yes, HTC deserve credit for trying something different (although the underlying inspiration seems Nokia). As is the case with first gen tech, its not quite great. Hopefully the next Ultrapixel sensor will be better.

14. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Won't say much...will let the upcoming image comparison do the talking for me. (I still know what 808 did last summer)

20. jsdechavez

Posts: 814; Member since: Jul 20, 2012

haha nice one..

47. ZeroCide

Posts: 816; Member since: Jan 09, 2013

Come on PA still waiting. Where is the comparison? :P

45. eshwarnag

Posts: 19; Member since: Feb 20, 2013

not close to n8?

3. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Sounds like things are setting up real nice for a Nokia L1010 (40+ Mp PureView camera edition) vs. HTC One. Nokia is supposed to be taking the wraps off the L1010 at MWC in what, 5 days? And then there is Sammy with the GS IV.... 2013 is off to an interesting start.

4. Johnnokia

Posts: 1158; Member since: May 27, 2012

Dear Mr.Damian, Every imaging technology compared to Nokia's is crap. So, dont compare with Nokia. HTC One camera looks great compared to other phones.

27. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Well put. Likely best Android [phone] camera for a few months or longer, but I don't think it will attain "legendary" status like the N8, 808 PureView, or Lumia 920. It is surely disappointing to Androiders that it has no expandable storage or removable battery. While I will grant that the 4MP (can barely believe I'm typing anything under 8 in 2013 for a flagship, even more so anything past 2010) likely takes up less storage space, if one wanted to shoot a few hours' worth of movies and keep some music or apps on the phone, they'll be out of space quickly. At least the Lumia 920 syncs stuff automatically to SkyDrive so one can remove saved files from the phone when no longer needed.

43. CanYouSeeTheLight

Posts: 1122; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

Tell me one use for 8 or even 13 megapixel sensors? I have one on my phone and i don't see the point in it, not like you are going to do posters with pics from your phone. Also you should keep your mouth shut for that last miserable sentence of yours, in case you didn't know all HTC devices come with Dropbox installed and 25gb free space and they also sync automatically with it. My One X does it.

34. tusshharish

Posts: 342; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

as nokia's imaging is great and they set example of imaging for others by giving pureview so it is natural that everyone compare its imaging with nokia's.......

35. tusshharish

Posts: 342; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

as nokia's imaging is great and they set example of imaging for others by giving pureview so it is natural that everyone compare its imaging with nokia's.......

5. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

Don't think anyone will match the pureview 808 anytime soon other than by Nokia itself...not only can the pureview do what the HTC one does but like the Nokia guru said there pixel size is almost double of the HTC one but what pureview has is that lost less zoom that no other phone has.

6. StreetNerd

Posts: 870; Member since: Dec 08, 2010

LUMIA EOS! 5 more days

10. yero789 unregistered

Oh I was thinking about this when I first saw the back of this phone :D it looks so familiar to Sony Xperia P,I was so confused,because it really looks like Sony Xperia P(from the back).

21. jsdechavez

Posts: 814; Member since: Jul 20, 2012

Xperia at the back. Blackberry at the front. What else did I miss?

17. FireDragon

Posts: 117; Member since: Nov 13, 2009

No wonder everytime I was looking ONE from back I was thinking to myself "This is so beautiful I must have seen this before, but where." Now yes. Although Xperia did that better than the COPIED One (see what I did there? ;) ) Xperial put the flash in design, brilliant. I respected HTC but last 2 attempts are... well, not very original, not very good HTC, not very good.

30. Diego!

Posts: 880; Member since: Jun 15, 2009

Which Sony-Ericsson Xperia is that one? I can't believe no one is mentioning that!!! You go boy! :)

53. yero789 unregistered

It's Sony Xperia P,which has the brightest screen in a smartphone,at least that's what Sony's website says :D

8. shadez10

Posts: 427; Member since: Jan 15, 2012

words of wisdom from the ex guru... HTC got hit real hard... Its really true that the ultrapixel gimmick of HTC doesnt impress most people...

9. asingha94

Posts: 295; Member since: Apr 08, 2012

yes!!Whatever name it or call it by ultrapixel,this is a joke!!htc made a fun of pureview camera.Now htc deserves more than ftw

12. moronman66

Posts: 162; Member since: Jan 09, 2012

So what he's saying is that this isn't new, and it can't beat the best camera phone's camera... I'm shocked? HTC has a nice concept while, albeit, isn't completely new, it should at least be a decent, if not above average, camera, on a phone at least.

13. pellegrini

Posts: 84; Member since: Jun 14, 2012

The fact is, HTC is in the right direction.

15. tashreef

Posts: 476; Member since: Nov 24, 2012

but they challenged Nokia Pureview technology ..where is it? Ultrapixel ? it doesn't make sense HTC..... Nokia will launch EOS in just 5 days... what you got?

16. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

I'd bet a lot of manufacturers head executives would be "unimpressed" Nokia's smartphone sales figures! The Htc one camera is a big step forward,yes maybe the pure view 808 has a better camera but then almost nobody likes having a phone as close to resembling a brick these days. Htc have done well to keep their phone spec and design as cutting edge and current

23. faisal8708

Posts: 104; Member since: Nov 15, 2011

Yea no body likes a brick as a smartphone but everyone likes a smartphones which u hav to charge twice a day everyday. I hav an S3 and just bought L920 to replace my N8 and the lumia is more comfortable hold and use than all these slim devices so much so tht it has now become my daily driver and dont forget those bricks are far more durable than any other smartphone on the market

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