Nokia's ex-camera guru Damian Dinning unimpressed with the HTC One UltraPixel camera
posted by Daniel P. / Feb 20, 2013, 8:04 AM
Nokia's former camera sensei Damian Dinning took to Twitter commenting on the HTC One handset unveiled yesterday and the UltraPixel camera concept: "Did I miss something today?? Thought HTC were introducing a breakthrough camera?? Read the whole press release but no, couldn't find it."
As for the optical image stabilization inside the HTC One, which is similar to the one in the Lumia 920, but has compensation for up to two thousand movements per second, Damian says: "that maybe their 'spec' but it only works to 1/7.5 vs Nokia's 1/3 sec."
808 PureView would be much better, since in its automatic 5 MP mode the effective pixel size is 3.85 microns against the HTC One's 2 microns.The conversation in his Twitter feed also hovers around the fact that it is just a normal size sensor optimized for larger pixels yet with 4 MP output, and the results from a juggernaut like the
It is hard to judge whether this is a case of sour grapes before we make a camera comparison of the HTC One with the Lumia 920 and other flagship handsets, though, yet it is certainly commendable that Nokia's PureView phenomenon forced everyone to think long and hard about the cameras they put in their smartphones, and at least HTC was brave enough to buck the megapixel war trend and try to refocus its camera efforts where it counts.
source: @PhoneDaz (Twitter)
- Display 4.7" 1080 x 1920 pixels
- Camera 4 MP / 2.1 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 600, Quad-core, 1700 MHz
- Storage 64 GB
- Battery 2300 mAh(18h 3G talk time)
At least their making new ways with their camera ex guru
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:07 AM 13
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Yeah, but that is not reason for HTC to provoke Nokia. They want to compare UltraPixel with PureView and announce it like competition tp PV, but that is not comparable at all. But, they deserve credit for their aims to make some inovations, unless it is way to sell ordinary thing under the diff name.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:41 AM 19
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Umm how do u know if its comparable or not no one has com paired it LOL... And if this super high MP camera is so great on the 808(which just to remind everyone was terrible and sold horrible and didn't even make it to the U.S at all) why didn't they put it on there real flagship the 920.
posted on Feb 21, 2013, 11:46 AM 0
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For one the 808 is a niche device and isn't built for the general phone users...I can explain this all I want to but this is not my point in replying. The 808 pure view has a large camera. That makes for a very chunky phone. A flagship device shouldn't really be too thick and should be well rounded. That is why the 920 didn't have the Pureview Phase 1 camera. Nokia is working on putting the Pureview Phase 1 camera on a WP8 device, but the 920 was a market must have, or Nokia would have risked quite a bit to wait for so long.
posted on Feb 21, 2013, 9:13 PM 0
If the first sample images are any indication, then its certainly not a case of sour grapes. Forget the 808, the sample images don't come close to the N8 (almost a 3 year old device). But yes, HTC deserve credit for trying something different (although the underlying inspiration seems Nokia). As is the case with first gen tech, its not quite great. Hopefully the next Ultrapixel sensor will be better.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:09 AM 22
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Won't say much...will let the upcoming image comparison do the talking for me. (I still know what 808 did last summer)
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:51 AM 12
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Sounds like things are setting up real nice for a Nokia L1010 (40+ Mp PureView camera edition) vs. HTC One. Nokia is supposed to be taking the wraps off the L1010 at MWC in what, 5 days? And then there is Sammy with the GS IV.... 2013 is off to an interesting start.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:12 AM 4
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Dear Mr.Damian, Every imaging technology compared to Nokia's is crap. So, dont compare with Nokia. HTC One camera looks great compared to other phones.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:18 AM 28
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Well put. Likely best Android [phone] camera for a few months or longer, but I don't think it will attain "legendary" status like the N8, 808 PureView, or Lumia 920. It is surely disappointing to Androiders that it has no expandable storage or removable battery. While I will grant that the 4MP (can barely believe I'm typing anything under 8 in 2013 for a flagship, even more so anything past 2010) likely takes up less storage space, if one wanted to shoot a few hours' worth of movies and keep some music or apps on the phone, they'll be out of space quickly. At least the Lumia 920 syncs stuff automatically to SkyDrive so one can remove saved files from the phone when no longer needed.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 11:03 AM 4
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Tell me one use for 8 or even 13 megapixel sensors? I have one on my phone and i don't see the point in it, not like you are going to do posters with pics from your phone. Also you should keep your mouth shut for that last miserable sentence of yours, in case you didn't know all HTC devices come with Dropbox installed and 25gb free space and they also sync automatically with it. My One X does it.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 1:29 PM 1
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Don't think anyone will match the pureview 808 anytime soon other than by Nokia itself...not only can the pureview do what the HTC one does but like the Nokia guru said there pixel size is almost double of the HTC one but what pureview has is that lost less zoom that no other phone has.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:19 AM 21
lol the design is even more unimpressive.https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/860398_343318719117827_14
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:26 AM 9
Oh I was thinking about this when I first saw the back of this phone :D it looks so familiar to Sony Xperia P,I was so confused,because it really looks like Sony Xperia P(from the back).
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:38 AM 9
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No wonder everytime I was looking ONE from back I was thinking to myself "This is so beautiful I must have seen this before, but where." Now yes. Although Xperia did that better than the COPIED One (see what I did there? ;) ) Xperial put the flash in design, brilliant. I respected HTC but last 2 attempts are... well, not very original, not very good HTC, not very good.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 9:22 AM 5
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Which Sony-Ericsson Xperia is that one? I can't believe no one is mentioning that!!! You go boy! :)
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 11:14 AM 2
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So what he's saying is that this isn't new, and it can't beat the best camera phone's camera... I'm shocked? HTC has a nice concept while, albeit, isn't completely new, it should at least be a decent, if not above average, camera, on a phone at least.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:49 AM 4
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The fact is, HTC is in the right direction.
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 8:50 AM 1
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I'd bet a lot of manufacturers head executives would be "unimpressed" Nokia's smartphone sales figures! The Htc one camera is a big step forward,yes maybe the pure view 808 has a better camera but then almost nobody likes having a phone as close to resembling a brick these days. Htc have done well to keep their phone spec and design as cutting edge and current
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 9:19 AM 3
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Yea no body likes a brick as a smartphone but everyone likes a smartphones which u hav to charge twice a day everyday. I hav an S3 and just bought L920 to replace my N8 and the lumia is more comfortable hold and use than all these slim devices so much so tht it has now become my daily driver and dont forget those bricks are far more durable than any other smartphone on the market
posted on Feb 20, 2013, 10:24 AM 4
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