Nokia's SEC filing reveals manufacturer's worry over possible Microsoft Surface phone

Nokia's SEC filing reveals manufacturer's worry over possible Microsoft Surface phone
An SEC filing (Form 20-F) made by Finish based handset manufacturer Nokia shows the concern that the company has about the possibility of it having to face Microsoft as a rival in the mobile phone business. Of course, Microsoft's mobile OS Windows Phone 8 is the software that drives Nokia's phones, which means that if Microsoft starts focusing on its own Microsoft Surface phone, it probably would stop taking the time to improve Windows Phone for Nokia's line, and for other handset manufacturers that make Windows Phone powered devices.

What makes a possible Microsoft Surface phone all the more worrisome for Nokia is that unlike other handset manufacturers that produce Windows Phone models, Nokia is largely dependent on the OS. For example, if a Microsoft Surface model were to, well, surface, HTC could just concentrate on Android as could Samsung, Huawei and others.


Last October, pictures allegedly of a Microsoft Surface protoype leaked. The handset prototypes, codenamed Juggernaut Alpha, are supposedly kept in Studio H at Microsoft's Redmond campus, guarded with the same intensity as those alleged alien bodies that are said to be kept at Area 51. So far in 2013, we have not heard much about a Microsoft phone although some of the last reports last year hinted that such a device could reach the market in the first half of 2013.

source: NokiaForm20-F via BGR

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54 Comments

1. avin007

Posts: 139; Member since: Feb 28, 2013

Samsung wants to follow tizen.....and redmond guys want to make their own phone.....coming months will be pretty amazing.......btw what was that device......ms ipad...lol

2. nikenturd unregistered

NOKIA'S own fault, they had the choice to go Android but they simply wagered on the losing side ...business is business, cant blame Microsoft

12. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

Its not Nokia's fault, its Elop's fault.

16. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Except that Elop was hired in to be the CEO of... Nokia. So it is Nokia's fault after all.

18. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Do you guys forget Google purchased Motorola for these same intentions.. Don't be foolish. Microsoft is just trying to achieve what Apple and Google already have.

20. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

I have yet to see that happening.... So far Motorola is not getting the soft treatment...

26. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

1. Nokia joined forces with MS before Google bought Motorola 2. We have yet to see any Google influence of Motorola. At the same time...Nokia and MS are practically married. With favoritism going towards Nokia from the beginning.

27. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

wht favorism is that besides the 250m$ per quater they not have let them get in the OS and they are charging them for wp patents too

46. papss unregistered

In all fairness we haven't seen much at all by moto..

53. UrbanPhantom

Posts: 949; Member since: Oct 30, 2012

Google bought Motorola Mobility primarily for the patents, and it was a protective move designed to put them on equal footing with Apple and Microsoft. In my opinion, they had no intention of keeping the company intact, and they are now in the process of discarding the pieces they don't need... Microsoft has a good partner in Nokia, which has a very strong patent portfolio of it's own. Microsoft won't make it's own smartphones, unless it buys Nokia outright. Besides, who would buy an inferior Microsoft WP8 smartphone? Nokia's reputation for producing quality devices is well deserved, and it's unlikely Microsoft will risk alienating it's own partner by attempting to market something that won't sell anyway. Also, the jury is still out regarding the success or failure of WP8. Android fanboys will say WP8 is a total failure, but they are not interested in making honest and objective evaluations, and their opinions should be typically disregarded due to an obvious bias against Microsoft and it's allies. If Microsoft did market it's own "Surface Phone", then Nokia would likely jump ship to Android, and possibly market both types of devices. However, such a move would see WP8 quickly lose steam, and then fade away. Microsoft needs Nokia in order for WP8 to succeed, and will not risk ruining the business relationship.

54. papss unregistered

Very well said

42. RomeoJDR

Posts: 245; Member since: Dec 09, 2011

Google bought Moto strictly for patent protection. Motorola has what 2 maybe 3% of the market and is cutting back over a 1000 jobs.

35. Guest_star

Posts: 231; Member since: Dec 30, 2011

yeah, go to android and be in a shadow of samsung...and try to beat them, this way nokia has no real competition and is top hardware manufacturer for OS, but I do think they should make android device as well as windows devices

51. jsdechavez

Posts: 799; Member since: Jul 20, 2012

Once Microsoft decides to make their own phones, Nokia should diversify. Android!!!!

3. nikenturd unregistered

If this phone will be Google Play compatible, it sounds exciting indeed.

7. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

yep....exciting

17. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

And why on Earth would a MS Surface phone be Google Play compatible?

44. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

My guess is he's thinking of Bluestacks. So, not really Google Play exactly, but capable of running Android apps.

4. tusshharish

Posts: 342; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

microsoft shoud support nokia more than making surface phone......................or nokia should make tablet to rival against surface tablets..........i think 2nd is better

5. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

100% dude agree....and i know johnnokia said nokia working on their own OS since 3 years......so interesting or nokia will go with android that will be great.

19. MrJerry

Posts: 403; Member since: Oct 05, 2012

Nokia tablet with its own OS? Sorry it doesnt sound so promising...

28. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

no actually it will be wonderful since Nokia has always targeted what user likes to do i like wp but its also true MS dont completly listen to users but nokia has a long history of user friendly excpet going with MS most will say ofcourse if they make another OS this can turn to their own favor android is not best option maybe good enough but not for users at all

6. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

Nokia you should go with your own linux OS & has a top apps Or go with Android will be hit of the year Phone, great phone with great os......!!! Elop mention that they will go with other os (ex: Android) interesting in future when nokia release android phone....!!!

36. volcano

Posts: 348; Member since: Jan 25, 2013

ya sure because google doesn't own Motorola and they don't have their own phones

8. avin007

Posts: 139; Member since: Feb 28, 2013

If microsoft launch their own phone nokia will be history(with symbian phones displayed at cultural museums of finland).....symbian is gone and now they may possibly lose love and care of windows.....microsoft got what they wanted....popularity and recognition in mobile arena via nokia. They can afford to show middle finger to nokia...good luck elop

29. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

well still WP is more sold only because of nokia others aint doing as good as them besides MS sufrace was cool but not as affortable to get it

9. Joshing4fun

Posts: 1245; Member since: Aug 13, 2010

Microsoft would be stupid to make their own phone. They should just have Nokia build whatever they want since they're only one step away from owning them anyways.

10. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Ok....so are they assuming MS would do their own hardware? Why assume MS would just alienate the OEM(s)? If I'm not mistaken....Surface tablets are made by OEMs, right?

11. bojan

Posts: 188; Member since: Oct 06, 2012

Nokia you need to go Andriod or you will be ditched soon by Microsoft and it would be too late for you to join Andriod

14. MC1123

Posts: 1256; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

no android!! there's a ton of open software out there! they could use sailfish and also firefox (since they support it with thier here maps) you should realize that not all people like android and its not the only choice!! they can still go their own way, if they develop their own home grown OS, symbian and meego

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