Motorola Shamu aka Nexus 6 gets benchmarked, indicating a 1080p display and Snapdragon 801

posted by Daniel P. / Aug 12, 2014, 9:41 AM

Motorola Shamu aka Nexus 6 gets benchmarked, indicating a 1080p display and Snapdragon 801

The GFXBenchmark database is the gift that keeps on giving today. After hosting the graphics score of a Sony D6603 device, which by all accounts and measures seems to be the upcoming Xperia Z3 flagship, now the benchmark site spills the beans on a possible Nexus 6 device, made by Motorola. Codenamed Shamu, we've seen references about it in Google code, and the internal titling is in line with Google's approach to naming its Nexus line of handsets and tablets.

We first heard about a possible collaboration between Google and the now Lenovo-owned Motorola for the making of Nexus 6 about two weeks ago, and the codename Shamu was bandied about then, too. Google christens its homebrew Nexus devices with the names of water creatures, so Shamu, which is a now-infamous killer whale show that was the star of the San Diego Sea World, is a hint in that direction, too.

Unfortunately, we can't really tell much from the benchmark, except the fact that the Motorola device's scores are in line with what the Snapdragon 801 chipset family manages to churn out, when used with a 1080p screen setup. The speculation so far is that it could sport a huge screen, on the side of the phablet range, but apparently that won't be a Quad HD panel, which we won't be missing much anyway. Oh, well, between the rumored Nexus 8 tablet, made by HTC, and this purported Nexus 6 candidate, it seems that the underdogs in the phone manufacturing business might be getting their own chance to shine with some Google-anointed light.

source: GFXBench via TechTastic

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1. PressStart

Posts: 119; Member since: Apr 08, 2014

Looks like I'll be sticking to android for now and I'll definitely be upgrading my Nexus 5 if the price is right. Hope TMo offers this device.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:46 AM 8

6. CyberFalcon

Posts: 223; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

i think i ll wait for next year's nexus coz it ll have a 64 bit processor...

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:53 AM 1

13. BLUEBLASTER

Posts: 908; Member since: Feb 23, 2014

Nope it wont. This one should have had the latest 805 processor. So next years model will have an 805 note 64 bit.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 10:10 AM 0

55. Suo.Eno

Posts: 556; Member since: Feb 17, 2013

"So next years model will have an 805 note 64 bit." If they really do that next year, then it's auto DOA on just leaks let alone when official bro.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 4:04 PM 0

64. sgodsell

Posts: 6738; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

The 805 is not 64 bit. The thing is I heard rumors before stating that the nexus 6 will be a 64bit CPU. I also heard rumors that it could be mediatek processor. Not to mention Google has team up with them to make a sub $100 smartphone offering.http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/549497/20140425/google-nexus-6-release-date-specs-features.htm

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 7:20 PM 0

15. Finalflash

Posts: 4062; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Won't really make much of a difference since you have to remember, most of the 64 bit nonsense that went around was just Apple marketing points. 64 bit, even with the ARM v8 will make an almost negligible difference as it did for the iPhone. Android will benefit from it more because of 3+ GB of RAM but even that will be kind of useless for a while since most app developers have to keep RAM usage low to cater to the low end as well as top end.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 10:12 AM 5

24. jove39

Posts: 2137; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Instead, oem should concentrate on improving battery tech.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 11:30 AM 5

53. Suo.Eno

Posts: 556; Member since: Feb 17, 2013

Have to respectfully disagree here. People ragged on Apple solely due to the fact on their insistence to blow up their Apple A7/Cyclone SoC's 64 bitvaganza debuted to drive apps on a sub 720p 4" screened device + sub optimal RAM count (Anandtech said this not me) AND of course that pitiful batt capacity, not because it's "completely useless". Different thing... You gotta start somewhere when the envelope gets pushed and even ARM as opposed to x86-64 computing has to move forward, so should we no?

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 3:53 PM 2

26. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2253; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Well how can you tell if this one does or does not have a 64 bit processor? It doesn't mention at all what the processor is. It just lists that the GPU under this certain benchmark returns this certain result. Now, everyone, tell me how many times have you seen a benchmark for even a new CPU/GPU return average results? Answer: It happens quite often. This could be an early build of Android that it's running or the CPU/GPU may not be optimized yet. So, while I'm not saying it may not be the 801 chipset, I would hold off until there is more definitive proof one way or the other.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 11:35 AM 2

41. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

http://i.imgur.com/g5W6J9d.png GFXBench says it has a 1440p screen, yet it has similar performance to 1080p screens. If Google stuck with Snapdragon, it has to be the 810, it fits perfectly. 1440p has 77% more pixels than 1080p, and the Adreno 430 has about 80% better performance than the Adreno 330 according to Qualcomm.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 1:35 PM 2

50. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

50gigaflops extra than A330 which has 120gf.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 2:54 PM 0

71. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

I thought the Adreno 330 was rated at 166 GFLOPS? And even if it was 120, that doesn't mean the Adreno 430 would be 170, it would be 216. But since the Adreno 330 has 166 GFLOPS, it's actually closer to 300

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 10:25 PM 1

61. sgodsell

Posts: 6738; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

The 810 won't be available till next year. However the 410 and 610 will be available very soon. Also there is mediatek 8 core 64bit CPU available right now. Not to mention a tegra K1 64 bit available as well.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 7:10 PM 0

70. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

The Snapdragon 410 and 610 both have weaker GPUs than the 801. Same with the 64 bit Mediatek SoCs, and the Tegra K1 actually has a much better GPU, so if this Motorola device had the Tegra K1, it would get a significantly higher score than Snapdragon 801 devices, even with a 1440p display. It has to be the Snapdragon 810. It just fits so perfectly in line with what these results are showing. It wouldn't be the first time a device got a new SoC a few months before the official Qualcomm release date. The 2013 HTC One had the Snapdragon 600 in February, but Qualcomm said S600 devices weren't supposed to be announced until Q2, at least 2 months later. And with Google pushing 64 bit in Android L and their recent track record of using Qualcomm SoCs, I wouldn't doubt it if Google got Qualcomm to give them the 810 a little early.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 10:22 PM 1

72. AciMars

Posts: 24; Member since: Jul 04, 2013

no 810 until 2015 dude. if nexus release in the end of the year it must be 805 or another soc. 1440 vs 1080 = 78% more pixel doesnt mean it must be 78% more powerful GPU to be on par performance. Adreno 420 on 805 which is 40% more power compare to adreno 330 (450Mhz) on Snapdragon 800 already enough to be on par with (1080p/330) performance.

posted on Aug 13, 2014, 1:50 AM 0

74. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Yes it does. Resolution is directly related to performance. Galaxy S5 (1080p, S801 AC version) - 11.6 fps in Manhattan on screen. Oppo Find 7 (1440p, S801 AC version) - 6.7 fps in Manhattan on screen. Same hardware, but the Find 7 has a 1440p screen. 6.7 x 1.77 = 11.85. Small variance, but that's expected. So, a GPU with about 80% better performance than the Adreno 330 would make up for that. The Adreno 430 is the only GPU that fits.

posted on Aug 19, 2014, 5:01 PM 0

65. engineer-1701d unregistered

I want it but if it's 6 inch screen no hell no 5.1

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 7:26 PM 1

68. BReND0

Posts: 74; Member since: Dec 07, 2010

This is an off topic reply to your statement. Just wanted to express my point in this lack luster arguement of processor... But ONE, why have a company you sold off make a nexus device for you? TWO, being that moto is known for sub par camera's. Why have them make it and THREE i think this is not a nexus device

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 8:05 PM 0

2. Anshulonweb

Posts: 468; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

eagerly waiting for next nexus....

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:47 AM 1

3. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Nothing spectacular Same old Snapdragon S800 series Google use and try something better and different... Tegrak1 or the Exynos5433. Pure A15 clusters, not halfbaked Snapdragon.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:47 AM 2

4. Zomer

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2013

It probably has something to do with the integrated 4G/LTE modem of those Snapdragon processors and the price of chips.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:50 AM 2

8. CanYouSeeTheLight

Posts: 1122; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

I'm seriously pissed off at the lack of choice cause by Qualcomm's monopoly. We are getting recycled SoCs instead of powerful jumps in processing power. Why did Nvidia have to stop focusing on smartphones... I still remember Qualcomm's words a year ago when they released the S600. "but we believe our Snapdragon 600 outperforms Nvidia’s Tegra 4. And we believe our Snapdragon 800 completely outstrips it and puts a new benchmark in place. So, we clean Tegra 4′s clock. There’s nothing in Tegra 4 that we looked at and that looks interesting. Tegra 4 frankly, looks a lot like what we already have in S4 Pro..." That guy was so wrong, Tegra 4 whipped the floor with S600 and was neck and neck with S800 despite being a S600 competitor. I won't even talk about K1 as that slaughters anything that Qualcomm has to offer. And this is coming from a Snapdragon 801 device owner.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:55 AM 8

18. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Tegra4 at 1.8ghz is on par with S801 at 2.3ghz. So even the Tegra4 at 2.3ghz will whip the S805 at 2.7ghz.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 10:16 AM 4

37. uzimafioso

Posts: 467; Member since: Jul 15, 2014

Tegra eats up more battery and Qualcomm is the SoC of choice for most manufacturers cause they have built in wifi glonass modem etc. chips

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 1:10 PM 3

51. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

S800 is based on Arm Cortex A9, that's why, not A15 clusters.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 2:55 PM 0

54. Suo.Eno

Posts: 556; Member since: Feb 17, 2013

The day you ask for Samsung to coop to Google's full AOSP/GPL compliance, is the same day years ago when all of xda devs hollered loudly for them to do just that back with Exynos4 https://plus.google.com/101093310520661581786/posts/3S6k5dCwjpy aka NOT GONNA HAPPEN buddy and trust me when I say that even El Goog's not even considering this option.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 3:57 PM 0

5. yowanvista

Posts: 341; Member since: Sep 20, 2011

That doesn't seem legit considering that the S801's gpu won't support some of Android L's improvements to the graphical subsystem such as AEP or ES3.1. What would even be point of releasing a Nexus phone with dated hardware that can't showcase the Android L's new features?

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:51 AM 3

7. take1sub

Posts: 15; Member since: Jan 24, 2014

You missed that this device is QHD So, it's at least SD805 or Tegra K1

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:54 AM 1

10. pmugghc

Posts: 44; Member since: May 11, 2014

Could it perhaps use the Qualcomm 410 so it's at least 64- bit? Don't know if the 410's performance would be similar to 800? Otherwise what's the point with it?

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 9:59 AM 2

27. Iodine

Posts: 1470; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

Snapdragon 410 is a rushed out 64-bit chip, because it was rushed out can't use highend 64-bit cortex A57 core, just low end A53 which is not that much faster than cortex A7, which is slow as hell. Low mid end/low end level of performance.

posted on Aug 12, 2014, 11:36 AM 1

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