MediaTek's Helio X30 leaks; same design as Helio X20, but with new cores?

MediaTek's Helio X30 leaks; same design as Helio X20, but with new cores?
MediaTek's Helio X20 chipset features a deca-core CPU with two Cortex-A72 cores (running at 2.2GHz), and two quad-core clusters containing the Cortex-A53 CPU (running at 2.0GHz and 1.4GHz). Today, specs for the Helio X30 have leaked, and if correct, the chip will continue to offer a deca-core design. The only change will be in the cores employed on this chip.

According to this leak, which should be taken with a grain of salt (or you can take ten grains, one for each core), the Helio X30 will feature four Cortex-A72 cores for the tasks that require power. Maximum clock speed will be 2.5GHz. There will be two Cortex-A72 cores clocked at 2.0GHz maximum, two Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.5GHz, and two of the just introduced Cortex-A35 cores running no faster than 1GHz.

We have yet to see any handset hit the market with the MediaTek MT-6797 SoC, the Helio X20 chip that should pop up in some 2016 flagship handsets. Interestingly, an earlier leak pertaining to the Helio X30 back in August, correctly called for the quad-cluster design that today's rumor has presented us with. If the rest of the rumored specs from August are true, the Helio X30 will support LPDDR4 RAM. And the Helio X30 will supposedly carry ARM's latest and greatest graphics processor in the Mali-T880.

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1. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

Power drain like no tomorrow.

5. Carl3000

Posts: 240; Member since: Oct 11, 2014

Not really. All they need to do is add hotplugging to turn cores on and off based on system load, which almost every CPU already has.

9. TyrionLannister unregistered

Hotplugging is not a very good solution. If you need to switch between cores often, the cost(time, resources) of making a core active and inactive again and again takes away all the benefits. What they can do is to power gate or clock gate the idle cores to improve performance. They will consume a little power but the latency gains will be significant.

21. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Good point Samsung has been both of those for their recent SoCs A clock-gating state called WFI (Wait-for-interrupt), an individual core power-gating state and a cluster power-gating state.http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/exynos-7420-deep-dive/6 Not sure about MediaTek

22. TyrionLannister unregistered

Mediatek and Qualcomm used hotplugging in their 2015 flagship SoCs. That was the major point for the micro stutters in SD 808 based devices. Otherwise, there should be no reason for Nexus 5X or Moto X pure to stutter, especially since the Nexus 5 runs just fine.

24. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Dam, that's really disappointing Hopefully the 820 uses clock-gating and power-gating so we don't see those issues again

29. mjk2804

Posts: 32; Member since: Apr 27, 2015

@ TyrionLannister Sometimes I read ur comments more than the article.

30. TyrionLannister unregistered

Thanks :)

38. Techist

Posts: 311; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

There's a couple of guys here that really know their stuff - TyrionLannister, vincelongman, the guy with the superman-android (I forget his handle), etc. I especially enjoy it when they interact over a topic - you can really learn a lot. It's worth enduring some of the other drivel to get to.

39. joeytaylor

Posts: 957; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

I liked reading Tyrion's blog post...a lot of info an average guy could understand

41. hauhauhau7

Posts: 2; Member since: Dec 04, 2015

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42. hauhauhau7

Posts: 2; Member since: Dec 04, 2015

i've been searching the whole Internet why my LG G4 is stuttering like hell, i had a Nexus 5 then a HTC M8, they were smooth....don't know what to do about the G4 it's the maximum size for me, i was thinking of the S6, i don't know if the RAM management got better with the updates...what phone would you recommend? thx

43. ermayo93

Posts: 15; Member since: Jun 04, 2012

Clocking, yes.

31. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

Yeah, but I wouldn't resort to hotplugging tho. BTW is their hotplugging even good compared to one like MPDecision?

2. carlemillward unregistered

I feel like Mediatek is always 1 or 2 years behind the competition in terms of graphics performance. Mali-T880MP4 is still behind Mali-T760MP8.

7. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Behind yes but not by much. T880 would do much better than previous gpus.

14. carlemillward unregistered

For what it's worth, it's still a major improvement over their previous GPU's (PowerVR 6200 and Mali T628MP4)

16. Acer_Predator unregistered

You don't understand it as u following childishly the numbers.. T880is efficient and drains less energy And has same performance ast760.. U need to get life.. Or study

25. drifter77

Posts: 402; Member since: Jun 12, 2015

The guy was stating his opinion, you don't have to be so rude. If that's the case, you better go and learn some English instead of bashing others.

28. carlemillward unregistered

And... you basically confirming what I said. GPU performance lies in-between Exynos 5433 and 7420. T880 is 1.8 times faster but Mediatek only uses 4 cores. On top of that Mediatek uses a low bandwidth of RAM which restrains GPU performance. There is nothing wrong with this chipset. But it is competing with 2015 chipsets like 810 and 7420, not exactly 2016 like Qualcomm 820 and Samsung 8890. Duh, of course it is more energy efficient, it is a newer GPU.

32. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

DDR4 is not low bandwidth ram btw..

37. carlemillward unregistered

I was referring to the Helio X20.

3. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Wow that's a quick "leak" ARM only announced the A35 yesterday But then again, it could just mean ARM are working with MediaTek behind the scenes

6. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

I hope they will be using 14nm lpp this time. How many cores of t880 is still a mystery, I guess. 30% improvement over 7420 sounds less, wasn't A72 bigger improvement over A57, assuming custom cores are based on A72.

10. johanbiff

Posts: 415; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

Samsung usally use MP8 in thier config, so im hoping for nothing less this time around

11. TyrionLannister unregistered

I heard it's MP12. It was MP8 as T760 only supported upto 8 clusters for mobile. T860 and T880 support upto 16.

13. TyrionLannister unregistered

It's MP12, confirmed: "To effortlessly power a graphic intensive user interface, immersive 3D gaming and virtual reality experiences the new processor features the Mali-T880 MP12, ARM’s latest graphics processor." -From sammobile

18. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

WOW!! That's a lot of graphics processing power, but l hope Samsung will make a tablet SoC with T880 MP16 to outpace Apple A10X in the next year. Mediatek and HiSilicon will be left behind again in GPU race.

23. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I didn't believe that at first, but its official From SamsungExynos's official Twitterhttps://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/664585940795420672 Also article from AnandTech with some more infohttp://www.anandtech.com/show/9781/samsung-announces-exynos-8890-with-cat1213-modem-and-custom-cpu

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