L.A. School District Superintendent ends plan to give an iPad to each student

L.A. School District Superintendent ends plan to give an iPad to each student
On Friday, current Los Angeles Unified School Superintendent Ramon C. Cortines put the kibosh on his predecessors' plan to hand out an Apple iPad to every student, teacher and administrator in the city. The original plan would have cost the city a whopping a $1.2 billion. Instead of handing out a tablet to just about anyone involved with the Unified School District, Cortines said that he would aim to provide computers to students who need them for instruction and testing.

The Superintendent said that the district could never afford the cost of giving every student an iPad, adding that the whole idea was never thought through properly by former School Superintendent John Deasy. Deasy was forced out of his job under pressure in October after getting criticized over his tablet plan.

Back in September 2013, students at 47 schools received iPads as an early test of Deasy's plan. While students weren't supposed to be able to use their tablets to surf the web, some of the kids attending Theodore Roosevelt High School discovered a way to hack their iPads and use them to browse the net. In addition, Deasy and his Senior Deputy were accused of having improper relationships with executives from Apple and Pearson. The former, of course, manufacturers the iPad while the latter provides the curriculum used by the students. The school district was paying $768 a tablet to provide each student with an iPad and curriculum. That figure was much higher than the price paid by other school districts to provide students with tablets

The FBI started collecting evidence in December as a criminal investigation is now underway. With School Board elections coming up March 3rd, those currently in power could find themselves voted out of office over the failed plan.

source: LATimes

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1. DirtyDan23

Posts: 280; Member since: Aug 12, 2014

Prepare for thousands of stolen iPads.

9. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Prepare for a bunch of ignorant ios hate comments.

15. sgodsell

Posts: 7621; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Well it has nothing to do with hate. As it does to do with paying too much of the tax payers money for iPads for each student. Especially when you can buy much cheaper tablets that can do just as much as an iPad. If that > $750 per iPad is even remotely correct. Then common sense clearly has told me as well as many others that you could get like 3 really good tablets or 6-8 mediocre tablets for that same price. If you think for one minute that schools can afford those ridiculous prices, then think again. Plus if you think you cannot find another device other then an iPad, that can do the same or better job, then you really are stupid. There is a number of tablets around the $100 mark, that will be great for children.

16. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

I would challenge your idea of not able to afford the cost. Take my state for example. We spend 8500/student (its more now i believe this was 2yrs ago stats). Each class room has about 28 students for math sake, lets make that 25. For each class room at the most basic level that is 215k. Per class room. Average teacher pay here is about 40k. Give each student a 800 surface pro 3. 800*25 = 20,000. Now its only a one year deduction since those tablets should last for some time. But lets say each year we bought tablets for kids, every year. On top of it lets give my teacher a raise to 50k (50k in this state goes far). So i am at 70k. out of my classrooms 215k budget. Now because of money going missing all the time, lets throw 20k out the window to never be seen again. another 30k from that single classroom to pay for other admin staff at the school. That is 120k total out of 215k. Now say its like college, each student is 1k for book fees, thats 25k. 145k total. Give the teacher 25k of their own account for the classroom spending, 170k. If having 45k left over from a single classroom, after raising teacher pay, throwing money out the window to literally burn, giving a classroom fund for spending, books paid, faculty paid. Then what are we doing with tax payers money? In my childs school alone there are 7 of the same grade. That means i would have 315k left over in just my childs grade alone. Times that another 7 times for the other classrooms and the school still has 2.2 million to do whatever the hell it wants to do. And while ipads are over cost, the school would never pay retail. Just like the school would never pay 800 for a surface pro 3 when buying in bulk direct from MS with their education initiative program. Why give them any form of 'tablet' that can only do so much, vs a real pc that i can get anywhere from $70-2000.

28. Slammer

Posts: 1515; Member since: Jun 03, 2010

Whether the school districts pay retail or not, is not the bone of contention. The cost of an iPad vs other choices is higher regardless and we are dealing with tax payer funding. The the other issue is augmenting the iPad to meet the educational requirements and needs. Many service tech installers and programmers have had continuous nightmares trying to match an iPad to school functionality. We have a college in our area that spent millions on MAC desktops only to have to spend more and put a windows overlay on them because the techs and the college staff couldn't manipulate the programming as needed. I admire your matthmatical skills, but, we need to look at base cost vs base cost while equating replacement costs as well as I.T services and the augmentation for changing educational requirements. Apple prioritization entering educational prioritization, is not condusive in maintaining standard reasoning and affordable dollars spent. If administrators want iPads, they should front the money; Not the taxayers. I actually heard first hand that administrators liked the idea of getting free iPads that they can use for personal use. What's next, town's money to buy them BMW's? John B.

40. engineer-1701d unregistered

no not BMW's you just need to buy them Land Rovers so each one can get to school to teach you when you see the snow or flood or earthquake lol

31. scribzz

Posts: 11; Member since: Feb 19, 2015

Why do they need ipads? pretty sure a alcatel pop 7 would be more then enough for students to use

36. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

1 thing you don't seem to understand is the school district did pay way above retail! Looks like this superintendent was a willing part of Apples plan to get into the educational tab market

52. McLTE

Posts: 922; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

What you don't understand is that this price is for much more than the cost of the ipad itself (Though the prices Apple charge is insane). Apple is known to have the best support system of the tablets - that costs money for schools to have. Also, you think the educational software is free? NOPE. There is cost there as well. So you can't look at that $XXX per iPad and think "omgzzzz.. I can get one for $100 less!)". Now having said that - I am VERY glad that this ridiculous iPad for every kid thing fell through. There is a whole lot more that can be done with the premium paid to Apple.. I would like to see better educational support for Android products. There's no reason someone couldn't develop a highly rugged Android version that would be inexpensive and do what the educators need - at a fraction of the cost of an iPad.

39. engineer-1701d unregistered

what state do you live in Rhode Island my high school back 15 years ago had over 2000 people in that one school and that's just a high school on top of that are you really willing to pay for a bunch of stupid kids to have iPads for school American school system is a joke to begin with most of them don't even care about going to school why should we give them tablets to do anything

18. jeff327

Posts: 87; Member since: Feb 28, 2012

I don't hate IOS I hate you and your continued childish comments. 5144 comments in 3 years shows you need a hobby my friend. Well I mean one outside trolling tech websites.

23. dsDoan

Posts: 235; Member since: Dec 28, 2011

Actually, it shows he has a hobby.

45. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

prepare for another useless troll comment

44. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

Now that will BE NEWS OF THE DAY ;)

2. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

Can't even afford iPad, US gonna bankrupt

41. engineer-1701d unregistered

what the hell are you talking about us can afford iPad it's not about us it's about paying too much for something so simple which is the reason why Apple is on top because average person doesn't understand what they're paying for and what their getting for what they are paying for

3. Kruze

Posts: 1285; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Why iPad? Why not get a cheaper Windows tablet? iPad is just for entertainment, while a Windows tablet can get your school stuffs done easily like a PC. What's the point of giving each student an iPad when they're gonna play games and watch movies at home anyways?

4. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

Because Apple is made by a US company most likely. But yeah, they've done something like this in Denmark as well, and I'm just amazed at the thought process that has to go through the minds of those that decided it. Lets hand out ipads a rather pricy device to the youth in our schools because that will most certainly help them with their schoolwork more then a weaker, cheaper but adequate device from someone else, since schoolwork DEFINITELY needs a powerful processor and gpu, and the school children are definitely not going to use it for non school work because we will prevent that in one way or another and there is no way they will get past it... Yeah, luckily they've stopped it here too, realizing it was a rather pricy solution and from day 1 was being misused...still even the partial deployment cost money that could have been used on much more useful things here in Denmark

42. engineer-1701d unregistered

I bet if the check the bank accounts for those people involved with this sale in hi dear still find it was getting paid by Apple or at least a payoff on shares of some sort in order to get apple into the school educational system

5. vincelongman

Posts: 5814; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Yea, probably a cheap Windows tablet or hybrid would be best E.g. something like the Asus Transformer Book T100 (or the Asus Transformer Book T100 Chi which is coming soon) Just $400 and they come with keyboard docks as well Probably could get them in bulk for ~$300 each

7. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

Exactly, but noooooo must be apple, because (insert reason) It is sickening that among the people that are supposed to educate the next generation, are people that for some reason believe that a powerful tablet is needed for educational purposes. Office applications take absolutely no real power now a days. Writing text? no problem, no powerful gpu needed. doing math? no problem, no powerful gpu needed. drawing? advanced graph math?, no powerful gpu needed. All this can be done on tablets that are several years old, because their cpu's are not slow, and by using older hardware it is cheaper, just as good for what they need it to be and if it breaks (which it will) it can be cheaply replaced, replacing a broken ipad? ouch. But yeah it is very disturbing that those that educate youth have no idea about what they are actually doing.

17. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

shoot the netbook 10 from walmart is 179 with keyboard dock. full widnows pc.

37. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

The superintendent should have known better. That's part of his job

32. scribzz

Posts: 11; Member since: Feb 19, 2015

T300 IMO lol

34. vincelongman

Posts: 5814; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

True, the T300 (or T300 Chi) is much better But its double the price, though rightly so since its far better

6. jesusnexo unregistered

because ipads can be controlled, and are closed... like you said, you can do more with windows... ipads can have restrictions, are less open sourced. infact theyre not even open source. making them "safer" i guess

8. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

Actually it is easier to to flash an android or windows device with a custom rom that will prevent jailbreak/rooting, and last I checked, since there were computers back in the 486 days that could be customized so any tampering could be dealt with quickly, it would surprise me a lot if there wasn't this about still. You cannot do this with ios, unless you have a jailbroken ios version which is made to prevent that, which you know, apple likely wouldn't be happy about. But yes 100% tamperproof is most likely not possible therefor. The setup you want which I know is doable on windows/android is a simple server that sits and resets the device to a certain standard if it detects anything that shouldn't be there, and if they modify the device so that it can't be scanned as expected the device is flagged and disconnected from wifi, it isn't really that hard to do on them, but I have not heard of ios allowing similar though it may exist. Though from my understanding all changes and such would need to go through apple, which just isn't practical.

26. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Xondk is spot on. Plus, as my wife's workplace has found out with their 80 maxiPads, their software is useless after apple sends OTA updates to the devices. She spent three weeks had to to rollback the company's tablets to ios7, reinstall their software, and change the settings so they didn't automatically update. Then, about two months later, the software company released a version of their program compatible with ios8, so she had to take another three weeks updating them all, all on top of her other duties. Whereas if they had Windows tablets, she could remotely deploy the new software, and legacy programs would work just fine thanks to better coding and compatibility protocols.

46. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

Windows HP STREAM book can do more work than a iPad.

10. TimCook

Posts: 450; Member since: Oct 23, 2014

Everybody should have an iPad.

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