Just like Google: Motorola wants stock Android, but will concede to Verizon

Just like Google: Motorola wants stock Android, but will concede to Verizon
Being the number one smartphone platform has its benefits, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you're the top dog in the mobile world. Android is huge, but Android wouldn't be nearly as big if it weren't for Verizon. So, while Motorola wants to provide "close to" stock Android experiences, it has to concede to Verizon's wishes.

Speaking to reporters Motorola Senior Vice President, Product Rick Osterloh said that the company is dedicated to providing an Android experience that is "as close to the base" as possible, because "that’s the right thing for users." That sounds a lot like the philosophy of Google, which shouldn't be a surprise, but is definitely good to hear. Osterloh went on to say that Motorola (read: Google) thinks "users also want fast upgrades and upgrades for their phones over the long haul" and that will be a focus of the company. 

One odd point was that Osterloh said that Motorola wants to "be as close to the base as we can be". Given that Motorola is owned by Google, you would expect that "as close to the base as can be" would be a pure stock experience, just like a Nexus device. Unfortunately, Osterloh said that "Our partners sometimes want customizations... Our interest is to make it as close to Android as possible and generally we negotiate somewhere in the middle."

Given that Motorola is essentially synonymous with the Droid brand of Verizon, this seems to point to Verizon as a big reason why the company can't offer stock Android devices. This doesn't really make much sense though, because we can't really understand why Verizon would be pushing for a customized device. Almost every single Android device available on every carrier is customized in some way. Even the Verizon Galaxy Nexus came preloaded with Verizon specific apps. So, if Verizon and other carriers can get proprietary apps on stock devices, why would it matter if the device is customized or not? 

The only answer we can come up with is that if there are too many stock devices with fast updates, it could hurt the sales of other devices. But, that shouldn't be a concern of the carrier, that should be a concern of the manufacturers. Of course, as we mentioned the Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't exactly stock Android, with extra apps and a lock-down on tethering, so even Google has conceded to Verizon in order to get devices on the carrier. 

source: The Verge



1. Pings

Posts: 304; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

Screw VZW! Give us a Nexus Motorola!

4. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

hell yea more nexus! lol but i get the feeling that google will make motorola their own nexus without actually making it a "nexus" get it?

29. Mittal

Posts: 494; Member since: Dec 14, 2011

Moto will be Google's Nexus b*tch, u mean ?

30. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

hahaha yea pretty much

31. richardyarrell2011

Posts: 510; Member since: Mar 16, 2011

Been there done that. Verizon is useless and overrated at best. Regardless of it's so called Lte coverage which everyone seems to be strung out over. Verizon is the WORST CARRIER in the carrier business when it comes to updates for handsets. They are the WORST CARRIER EVER with it's overpriced Lte devices and it's disabling bloatware filled devices. It's network is very unstable and has poor reception/signal strength in most major cities. Paying more doesn't mean better nor does more Lte markets mean better. 80%of any Verizon handset has piss poor battery life and dreadful Dbm/asu signal strength which means you will be lucky to get 4hrs tops of battery life on any LTE device. (IE) Htc Thunderdud, Htc Rezound, Lg Revolution, Lg Vu/Intuition, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Lg Lucid, Droid 4,Droid 3, all these so called Lte smartphones are the WORST LTE handsets on the market check the forums. Verizon has pitiful company policies for testing devices but they still release buggy devices with piss poor software that makes the overall experience of owning any LTE device crippling. If you don't have the Droid Razr, Razr Maxx, Razr Hd, or iphone 4/4s or iphone 5 then you just don't matter to Verizon. They ruined the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and I am glad they will never see another Nexus again. Otherwise if your on Verizon '' GOOD LUCK with that they are far from the best that's for sure. And here in New York City Tmobile bitch slaps Verizon hands down.

33. Normil

Posts: 17; Member since: May 02, 2011

Since when was the Droid 3 a LTE device?

37. jphillips63

Posts: 253; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

I'm not sure why you say all the phones in your list only gets 4 hrs max of use? Have you personally owned each one of these phones? I have the Rezound and I can vouch it gets more than 4 hrs from a charge. With ICS you are able to disable the bloat in the phone and this increases the battery life a great deal. Also if you install the global RUU that again increased the battery life in this phone. So please unless you have solid facts don't go talking out ya ass and make a fool out of yourself.

38. KingKurogiii

Posts: 5713; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

what a pathetic troll argument that's full of lies...

46. jstoned

Posts: 36; Member since: Dec 22, 2011

NiGG@ Please!!!!!! Your whole comment sounds like a piss pour butt load of hate. NiGG@ y u Hatin???? You Know LTE SMASHES hspa+. That's why more people leave T-hobo everyday in record #'s, T-hobo loses more customers a day than all carriers combined lose a day. So u Winey ass NiGG@ keep crying. and I'll keep LTE flying. RAZR MAXX all dissay.

48. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Dude.....you fail to realize that the phone can play a part in poor signal strength, not just the network. Your list of the worst LTE phones on the market......doesnt even deserve a response. I have a Rezound and had G Nex....and they both had data issues. But the G Nex never saw LTE in places my Rezound did. Thats not the network....thats the phone. You also fail to realize every carrier has weak spots. I'm not in NY, and where I am T Mobile sucks. And Sprint. AT&T and Verizon are the best ones where I am. And battery life? Motorola phones on Verizon have historically had above average battery life vs the other Android on Verizon.

49. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

And I hate to break it to ya....but Samsung helped ruin the G Nex with reception issues. The Nexus S also has reception issues. Sometimes....its the phone. This is something Samsung has been known for long before Android came out. The Omnia 1 was dreadful for reception. Thats Win Mo 6.0 Omnia 1...not WP. And one reason why I am a big Moto fan....reception.

52. johnriii

Posts: 248; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

4 hours of battery? I own the biggest battery hog out there, and I get more than 4 hours. stop your griping and hating, Verizon has the best OVERALL network, hands down. the number of subscribers don't lie. yes, they could be better, but couldn't ALL carrier be better? of course. OTR truckers swear by verizon, based on my 16 years of dispatching them for a branch of UPS. and like someone else has asked you, have you OWNED all of these phones you listed? how would you actually know the facts that you spew? here is a fact for you: in Kansas city, MO, I know 12 people who own tmobile phones. and to a man, they drop at least two calls a week. I have dropped less then 10 calls in the 9 YEARS with verizon. so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

5. bobfreking55

Posts: 866; Member since: Jul 15, 2011

Motorola is Verizon's pet. I hate all carriers that like bloatware and putting their big fat logos on the phone. Unlocked phones from the playstore for us!

7. rcjrdrummer

Posts: 12; Member since: Mar 03, 2012

We just need the LTE, thats it.

17. OptimusOne

Posts: 694; Member since: May 22, 2012

never buying a cdma nexus ever. a cdma nexus is not a real nexus. cdma requires proprietary keys that only verizon can give and google can not develop separatly. therefore updates will be slow. unlike gsm, where all the keys for the network are the same and google will be able to work on it months ahead and deliver an update within hours of the release a VYZ nexus wouldn't be a real nexus. It would just be a phone with stock android on it. the people at VYZ do not understand what nexus is. nexus means fast updates and pure android yet verizon puts bloatware in gnex and delays the update by months. that goes against the very definition of nexus and they were even about to lock the bootloader if google did not intervene at the last minute the VYZ Gnex didn't deserve the Nexus name. It was just like a any other phone that came with stock android. updates come at verizon's descretion, not google if another VYz nexus is released, i think the same thing will happen. It might come out with Key lime pie out of the box, but that might be about it. Everything else would be like a normal phone. updates security etc and who knows, verizon might even be stupid enough to release a "development version" of what already was supposed to be a "nexus" already. I hope google will be wise and never release cdma nexus every again. They could release a phone that came with keylime pie stock, but I hope they will never name it "nexus". that is what will tarnish a nexus's image. a VYZ nexus will not be unique in the android world. It would just blend in with the crowd of other non nexus named phones. thats my thought. thumb it as you wish

34. fervid

Posts: 183; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

What is a VYZ?

41. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

An airport neighboring Toronto?

45. OptimusOne

Posts: 694; Member since: May 22, 2012

i meant verizon

36. The_Innovation

Posts: 648; Member since: Jul 18, 2012

That would pretty much be like Google, making it's own phone. No middleman. Add superior hardware to it like the Optimus G, with that edge to edge design and a 3300 mAh battery, and the entire phone industry would kneel to them and call them God.

2. BattleBrat

Posts: 1476; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

I tried to get a 4s out of verizons clutches, but the bastards wouldn't let it go. I had to activate it by knocking service off my RAZR. And unlocking a Verizon iPhone is useless because of how buggy they are, as far as I know there is only one iPhone 4S across all carriers, so Verizon must have gotten even apple to bow to it!

11. 305Bucko

Posts: 506; Member since: Aug 07, 2011


14. BattleBrat

Posts: 1476; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

I'll be going back to the RAZR soon, I needed to activate the 4S so that I could use it as a glorified iPod Touch....

50. 305Bucko

Posts: 506; Member since: Aug 07, 2011

umm.. ok?

15. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

what does that have to do with this article??

19. BattleBrat

Posts: 1476; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

When Verizon got the iPhone 4 what happened?... that's right apple made a CDMA phone just for Verizon, and verizon tested the living crap and made apple fix the antenna flaw that the 4 had. What I'm saying is that Verizon is like CRAZY powerful that even Apple had to concede to them. The Verizon 4s (as it was explained to me) has a software component that Verizon made apple install, which is why you HAVE to jail break it to unlock it. The point is Verizon is making everyone its bitch, even apple!

20. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

oooo ok man thank for explaining yourself.....

47. quickweevil

Posts: 51; Member since: Dec 21, 2011

Two statements here are false. One: Verizon didn't have to do anything for Apple to fix the antenna. When the redesigned the antenna for CDMA it just didn't suffer the same atenuation that the GSM-only iPhone 4 did. Two: You don't have to jailbreak a 4S to unlock them with Verizon. I know, I work there.

51. 305Bucko

Posts: 506; Member since: Aug 07, 2011

Thank you. I was going to post something but had no idea where to even start with so many inaccuracies in his statement. I have no Idea why anyone would activate an iPhone with Verizon to then go back to a Razr in order to use the iPhone as a "glorified iPod". For starters, why cant you use your Razr for music? Secondly you dont need to activate carrier service for that, you can just tap "skip" at the begining of the wizard and voila. Lastly Verizon did not make apple its "bitch" Apple can buy Verizon, Att, and Sprint if it wanted to, tomorrow. Apple simply made the phone a CDMA version so it would work on Verizon. (no bigger picture there) If anything Verizon was begging for an iPhone just like Sprint begged for an iPhone.

3. charulo316

Posts: 44; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

As close to stock is better than Touchwiz or Sense. I dont mind as long as the bloat can be removed.

22. OptimusOne

Posts: 694; Member since: May 22, 2012

i don't mind sense or touchwiz. all i care is root, and unlocked bootloaders. I don't even care about bloatware if i buy a device: firstthing, unlock bootloader, flash recovery img, and flash cyanogen mod. I bypass any manufactuer ui or bloatware

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