Judge Koh dismisses suit claiming that Apple was blocking messages to Android users

Judge Koh dismisses suit claiming that Apple was blocking messages to Android users
Judge Lucy Koh, who presided over both patent infringement cases involving Apple and Samsung, was staring down Apple's lawyers once again. This time, she dismissed a lawsuit against Apple. The suit accused the tech titan of intercepting text messages sent from iOS users to Android devices, preventing them from reaching their intended recipients.

Koh had previously ruled against the plaintiffs by not giving the suit class-action status. The plaintiffs alleged that back in 2012, they each left the iOS eco-system for Android. Texts subsequently sent to them from iPhone users were never received on their Android phones. We characterized iMessage as a black hole for texts at that time. In November 2014, Apple released a fix for the problem. This response from Apple came after many consumers who switched from iOS to Android, had become frustrated about not receiving texts from iPhone users. The frustration reached such a high level, that many of them switched right back to iOS. Many claim that this is the reason why Apple took so long to issue a fix for the problem.  

Apple had previously asked Koh to dismiss the suit after finding out that two out of the three plaintiffs didn't get rid of their iPhones until after they had filed suit against the company.

source: BusinessInsider



1. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

I want a Judge Koh TV series

7. engineer-1701d unregistered

How does this woman keep a job its like she has no idea what's going on in the world class action lawsuit yes I would say because millions of people didn't get it add coworkers that had switched finally to Android will love and it on the Galaxy S six and because they couldn't get any of the messages they went back my roommate who works for ATT had many people that switched but couldn't get there a message from other people so they also switched back it's well known that this was done on purpose

25. ph00ny

Posts: 2055; Member since: May 26, 2011

It was annoying. When i switched from iphone to Galaxy S, i didn't get any text message from iphone users using imessage for year and half. This was for work phone and it was very irritating. Ended up using a third party messenger to get around the issue

31. HildyJ

Posts: 338; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

If this was anyone other than Apple, the FTC would investigate them for noncompetitive practices. We're supposed to believe it was a software "glitch" in a service that predates iOS 1.0 rather than a deliberate attempt to cripple competitors.

32. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

I wonder how much Apple pays her. She is surely on their payroll. Almost everything is in their favor, except occasionally something slips just to give the impression that she is a "Fair" judge.

38. shm224

Posts: 295; Member since: Mar 19, 2015

@downphoenix : Ms Koh was nominated by Barbara Boxer, who happens to be a Apple fangirl. She's among those who sent letters urging Obama to reverse Samsung's win against Apple.

34. cheetah2k

Posts: 2271; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

This by far, is the BIGGEST example of judicial bias I have ever seen in the entire world.... Koh should be tied to a post in the town square and stoned to death for her incompetence

36. Unordinary unregistered

And you arent bias? LOL

44. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 361; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

A Common man being biased vs a High profile Judge is completely different bro. Being in Democracy, a common man has all the rights being biased towards anything he/she likes but a High profile Judge & Government person should abide by law & righteousness rather than being biased towards something. It will affect the entire life span against whom the decision is favored. Growup & get a life. Its not a biased war of a tech site comment box.

35. Unordinary unregistered

How did your law schooling go? Im sure you know better than she does. Let me know.

2. DirtyDan23

Posts: 280; Member since: Aug 12, 2014


8. engineer-1701d unregistered

Love how she thinks it's okay for Apple to get money from Samsung for the bounce effect that for no reason on any iphone is worth it and is not on any of the Samsung phones for one but then when Ashley comes down to something like stopping people from switching to a different manufactured phone simply by stop and all the messages from coming in from other people that's just stupid

40. Paximos

Posts: 283; Member since: Jul 26, 2012

Can you please re-engineer what you just said?..You lost me at "Ashley"!!

43. DirtyDan23

Posts: 280; Member since: Aug 12, 2014

wtf are you saying

3. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

You shall never quit on us!

4. AlikMalix unregistered

Why would you sue a tech company for a glitch that they actually made a fix for. If apple is to be sued for this glitch, than all software and tech companies should be sued - I have never used any software or devices that didnt have some kind of issues.

5. BobbyDigital

Posts: 2125; Member since: May 29, 2014

Same reason why a company would sue another for making a rectangular device with rounded corners.

6. LetsBeHonest

Posts: 1548; Member since: Jun 04, 2013

"The frustration reached such a high level, that many of them switched right back to iOS. Many claim that this is the reason why Apple took so long to issue a fix for the problem." Sounds a bit intentional to me or they are actually taking advantage of the glitch to bring their users back to the platform.

10. engineer-1701d unregistered

Still not 100% fixed because just this year alone like I said two months ago a coworker of mine switched back to an iPhone 6 after upgrading from an iPhone 5 to a galaxy s6 edge

9. engineer-1701d unregistered

People wanted to Sue because it was not a glitch it was forced just like the four stops to lessons when people get their phones crashed by and iOS update that is a least a phone that is 3 years old on top of that it's a company that is known for decades now for hating all other companies and trying to stop them from taking anything from them including there people

12. bambamboogy02

Posts: 840; Member since: Jun 23, 2012

Took around 24 months to fix. From started in 2012, fixed in 2014. I suppose it's okay if you paid a plumber and he didn't get to fixing your kitchen sink till 6 months later. I'm sure you wouldn't want to sue. He fixed it, but 6 months later.

26. ph00ny

Posts: 2055; Member since: May 26, 2011

year and half for me. It was annoying to say the least

27. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

A so-called glitch which is a way to bait and compel people into iOS ecosystem. Sh!!!t

11. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

"Apple had previously asked Koh to dismiss the suit after finding out that two out of the three plaintiffs didn't get rid of their iPhones until after they had filed suit against the company." What does that matter? If the messages weren't getting to the Android device, whether they still had their iPhone is irrelevant, period. Just because they have a device that could get the messages in question, 1. It was no longer in use, and 2. It doesn't change the fact that they weren't getting the messages on their Android device. I always keep my old device as a backup, but I wouldn't want to have keep swapping sims repeatedly to see if I have messages on my old device.

13. mrochester

Posts: 1021; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Sense prevails. Greedy people are always trying to grab some of Apple's money.

17. Geezy0315

Posts: 13; Member since: Oct 15, 2015

We all know she's on the payroll from apple

18. omar98

Posts: 71; Member since: Aug 28, 2011

It's more like judge bullsh!t

20. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

Judge iLucy iKoh. ........I bet she got the entire apple setup, nicely sponsored by her new employers. .....

23. tokuzumi

Posts: 1927; Member since: Aug 27, 2009

Not sure why they keep going to judge Koh. I think she's too involved in these matters, and needs to recuse herself.

24. AlikR

Posts: 45; Member since: Sep 05, 2013

She needs to be impeached... End of story... We need an unbiased and impartial judge to resolve these legal battles once and for all. There is no doubt that manufacturers copied each other ideas but Apple prevailing in these law suits is just plain ridiculous as even not very close examination of their "innovation" shows stealing and repackaging of the previous art. I think ALL their patents need to be examined for validity regardless of when they were filed or issued.

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