Is Qualcomm prepping a second generation Snapdragon 652 chipset?

Is Qualcomm prepping a second generation Snapdragon 652 chipset?
A listing in India's Zauba import-export website indicates that Qualcomm could be prepping a second generation Snapdragon 652 chipset. The new version of the Snapdragon 652 chip features 2GHz/1.4GHz 4+4 cores. A 621MHz GPU is on board, and there is support for a 1440 x 2560 resolution display and 8GB of DDR4 RAM.

58 units of the chip were shipped to India from the U.S. for testing last week. Each chip was given a valuation of $51 USD giving the shipment a total value of $2,958 USD. The Zauba listing referred to the chip as the MSM8976SG. The MSM8976 is the model number for the Snapdragon 652 SoC while the 'SG' probably means second generation. See how everything all works together?

The OG Snapdragon 652 chipset can be found powering the Samsung Galaxy A9 (2016), Samsung Galaxy A9 Pro (2016), Oppo R9 Plus, Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra, Alcatel Idol 4s, LG G5 SE and more. We have no idea when the MSM8976SG will be unveiled, but it appears as though testing is still under way.

source: Zauba



1. WPX00

Posts: 511; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

Surprised they havent changed the model number, but ultimately not surprised that theyre working on this chip. OG 652 is a flawed chip prone to overheating and is also rather inefficient.

8. sgodsell

Posts: 7519; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

What kind of BS are you making up. First of all the SD 652 is using cortex-A72 cores, and it was designed to not throttle down like other chips. So it can sustain its clock speed at all times and never throttle down. The original SD maximum clock speed is 1.8 GHz / 1.4 GHz with 933 MHz DDR3 ram. So this newer version can now work at 2 GHz and use 1600 MHz DDR4 ram. The faster ram would be a much greater improvement. However the A72 has been superceded by A73 which is faster once again.

10. WPX00

Posts: 511; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

But the 652 was manufactured on a 28nm process, which is way too old to be used on any kind of 64-bit "big" chip (ie. A57/A72/A73). There's a big, big reason it runs with a max speed of 1.8GHz, and that's thermal limitations. I have a G5 SE and it starts to heat up uncomfortably when shooting 4K video or playing games, then proceeds to lag like bats**t crazy.

13. sgodsell

Posts: 7519; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

One of the main reasons they left it on 28nm was to prove and show to the world that a cortex-A72 core would not slow down or throttle when it gets hot. And yes it is only 1.8ghz. The G5 SE only came out at the end of June in Russia, so you must be Russian or you got it from their.

2. Barney_stinson

Posts: 672; Member since: May 30, 2016

Sd652 don't heat buddy!!


Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

Yes it does. And it really isn't very energy efficient, either.

4. TheOracle1

Posts: 2340; Member since: May 04, 2015

First time I've heard this......

6. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Same for me I've heard people saying they get ~10hrs SOT across two days with the Samsung A9 and Xiaomi Redmi Note 3

11. WPX00

Posts: 511; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

Those are phones with humongous power packs. The ones with much more normal packs don't last very long: my G5 SE gets 3h SOT over a 15h day, while the S7 regularly goes for 50% longer with a nearly similar power pack.

12. TheOracle1

Posts: 2340; Member since: May 04, 2015

Then blame LG because though the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 uses the 650 it's battery is only 30% larger than yours whilst achieving over three times the SOT.

15. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Yep, LG's cheap phones are poor in terms of battery The G5 SE's diaplay is QHD Its probably the inefficient low bins of the G5's display Hence causing the G5 SE to have bad battery

14. Subie

Posts: 2415; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

All computer processors heat up. It's all about managing the heat and keeping the chips cool enough not to require throttling.

5. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Why don't they name it Sd 655 or something similar; it would be way easier for someone to differentiate between the two.

7. plasteek

Posts: 265; Member since: Jun 07, 2015

Maybe 14nm would be better...

9. Tondern

Posts: 164; Member since: Feb 23, 2015

The update would make the S652 more competitive with the Kirin SoCs, but right now Huawei is getting a lot more power from those a72-cores than Qualcomm is.

16. aznhachi

Posts: 212; Member since: Apr 12, 2016

i wish more kirin chipset will use powerful GPU

17. NFSHesham

Posts: 297; Member since: Feb 04, 2014

But the crappy GPUs they are putting are ruining everything

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