Galaxy S8's Snapdragon 835 chipset gets benchmarked, scores no worse than a Galaxy S7
by Daniel Petrov / Feb 07, 2017, 3:28 AM
some disappointing benchmark results, for those who still care how much their phone makes on AnTuTu, Geekbench and the like. As if to prove the point, a device with Snapdragon 835 and 4 GB RAM running Android Nougat has popped up on Geekbench, and at first blush its scores top the benchmark's Android chart.We can't blame them, as processors are already powerful enough, and what we need is less heatup and more battery life out of our handsets, but that might also mean
Granted, 835's 1.9 GHz core clock gets measured here, as opposed to the cores' stated maximum, but that goes for all others, too. The top Android result in Geekbench's chart is of a Galaxy S7 unit with Snapdragon 820 clocked at 1.6 GHz, and that one is 1785 in a single-core test, while the device with Snapdragon 835 did 2004 points at 1.9 GHz there, so the scores are pretty comparable when accounting for the clock frequency difference.
Thus, a Galaxy S8 with Snapdragon 835 may eventually perform no worse than a Galaxy S7 as far as synthetic benchies are concerned, yet offer much lower chipset power draw, better graphics, and plenty of extras like VR processing optimizations. These are all preliminary results, though, we'd have to wait for a retail device with Snapdragon 835 before we can pass a detailed judgment on its merits.
- Display 5.8" 1440 x 2960 pixels
- Camera 12 MP / 8 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, Octa-core, 2350 MHz
- Storage 64 GB + microSDXC
- Battery 3000 mAh(30h talk time)
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They made it that way to prevent it from exploding like the Note 7.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 3:56 AM 3
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These benchmarks mean jack, especially Geekbench. Samsung is the only one producing the new 10 nm SD 835. Plus Samsung is the only one right now producing all the new LPDDR4X ram, which works at 0.6 volts. The only SoC on the market right now that can use this kind of ram is the SD 835. This will also help boost battery performance, especially when all other LPDDR ram operates at 1.1 volts.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 10:03 AM 6
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when do they overheat? When charging? My wife has an S7 Edge. I use just for fun and played plenty of games. It actually gets less hot vs my Note 7 playing the same game. I don't know way games that cause a phone to overheat, at leats not the few I play.
posted on Feb 14, 2017, 9:57 AM 0
The A73 cores are more centred on efficiency than raw speed. They are a different architecture than the A72( 2-wide vs 3-wide). The speed upgrade will come next year with the A72's successor.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 4:36 AM 6
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@tyrion That's strange, that A72 was 3-wide (instructions in one cycle, right?) and A72 is just 2-wide. If that's the case I hope Exynos has A72 based Mongoose (previous core in 8890 were based on A57, right?). @phonester I guess he said Qualcomm cores are based on A73.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 9:41 AM 0
A73 is from a different family in ARM. They are completely different lineups. A15 -> A57 -> A72 A9 -> A17 -> A73. Regardless of what the name says, A73 is in no way related to A72. The A72 line is performance centred and the A73 line is efficiency centred. Anyway, despite being 2-way, A73 is a much better chip than A72 in terms of efficiency, and it's also faster due to architectural differences. I expect the Snapdragon 835 to be a battery life king. Being octa core will help battery life too. I hope the new mongoose is based on A73 and not A72.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 9:54 AM 2
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Okay, I got it now. A73 performs slightly better than A72 but is much more efficient. I thought you meant A72 performs better and A73 is just efficient. I am excited to see how Exynos is going to be. Especially for mali G-71.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 10:09 AM 1
Exactly, A73 is around 0-10% faster while being 25% more efficient. They improved branch prediction and memory bandwidth improvements to maintain about the same IPC as A72 while significantly improving power efficiency. It's pretty brilliant really since phone processors are pretty fast already. More than we need in fact. Most real-life speed gains will come from storage, RAM and GPU acceleration from now. I fully expect them to come back swinging next year though with A72's successor and go with wider design( 5 or 6-way like Intel and Apple) since frequency gains are about to end, and end quickly
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 10:22 AM 2
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Ehh I disagree. The only time I'd consider a phones processors "fast enough" is when I can record 4K for a couple of minutes with out the phone heating up. That, and to be able to refresh several web pages multiple times with out a processor getting warm.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 10:33 AM 0
I messed up in the above comment. These are the lineups: A9 -> A15 -> A57 -> A72 (Austin, performance) A5 -> A7 -> A53 (Cambridge, low power) A12 -> A17 -> A73 (Sophia, perf/watt) A17 was the best chip ARM ever made. Sadly it didn't get much traction due to being 32-bit when 64-bit was getting traction.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 10:01 AM 1
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were already literally at gaming console power in your pocket. How much more do you want? The chip speed is balancing out power and heat, while greatly increasing battery life and showing some improvement in synthetic scores. Want more? unlock it and install an OC kernel and see how fast it goes. Also, notice that the article is comparing the QC chip to an S7 with Exynos. Unlike what the article says, it is in no way a direct comparison and in no way " pretty comparable when accounting for the clock frequency difference. " 2 different chips at the same frequency do not equate to anything.
posted on Feb 07, 2017, 9:30 AM 1
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Nope, it depends on the devices. Certain Qualcomm devices with Snapdragon 820/821 throttle very little and don't overheat at all. You don't have a clue what you're talking about, at least be consistent with your BS.
posted on Feb 08, 2017, 1:38 PM 0
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From a performance standpoint, only the A9X and Tegra X1 chipsets can come close to the performance of the 11-12 year old consoles, considering consoles were there for the sole purpose of gaming, mobile SoC still need 1-2 years to reach that level, and another 2-3 year to improve battery life/sustained performance to totally match a 15 year console. I am not saying it will be impossible, but for the moment, comparing the phones and tablets to the "old" consoles is still a stretch.
posted on Feb 08, 2017, 12:11 AM 0
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