Galaxy S7 and LG G5 won't treat the memory card as internal storage, despite Marshmallow


Google's Android 6.0 Marshmallow update may not be waxing drastic changes in the interface of the world's most popular mobile OS, but it doesn't have to. Most manufacturers are slapping their own overlay on it anyway, so Google decided to concentrate on radical changes under the hood, like the Doze battery-sipping mode, the ability to swap even the stock dialer and messaging apps for a third-party one, as well as the so-called "Adaptive Storage."

The Adoptable Storage feature of Marshmallow has the ability to merge the internal memory of a phone with the external storage in the form of a microSD card (if the device has such a memory slot), and treat the resulting cumulative memory as a one total partition. In theory, this would prevent user confusion as to how much exactly free space they have in total on the phone, instead of trying to calculate microSD storage and internal storage separately, or asking themselves what are these things in general.

Now, here comes the surprise - both the Galaxy S7 and LG G5 don't support this Adoptable Storage feature, despite shipping with Marshmallow on board. Thus, they'll treat the microSD card as a separate entity, instead of lumping it together with the internal memory in the storage menu. Here is Samsung's argumentation behind this decision, and we'd wager to say LG could have meant something similar as well:


After all, Samsung also decided that it is too early to force the obscure USB Type-C connector on the potentially millions of Galaxy S7 and S7 edge buyers, assuming that the negatives outweigh the advantages, at least at this point in time, so it's not surprising that it is not taking all of the options that Google provided with Marshmallow at face value either, what do you think?

source: AA

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  • Camera 12 MP / 5 MP front
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  • Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 3000 mAh(28h 3G talk time)
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  • Display 5.3" 1440 x 2560 pixels
  • Camera 16 MP / 8 MP front
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  • Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 2800 mAh(25h talk time)

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144 Comments

1. kent-gaga

Posts: 609; Member since: Apr 10, 2012

can they just make an option for the users to choose? i;m not bashing, just curious because options is the best option here, right?

4. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Android 6 already gives this choice by default (how you like to use the sd card) but I do understand their reasoning for removing that option entirely. A big downside of using sd cards as adaptive storage is when apps are installed on the sd card part, they tend to slow down dramatically.

8. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

Use class 12 and above.

18. Clars123

Posts: 1078; Member since: Mar 16, 2015

that's the problem..people don't want to pay for high speed, quality cards....Samsung would rather do this than let them utilise cheap cards,slow down the devices then bitch about lag Same with LG

21. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

Samsung have sd cards which are expensive, where people won't pay. Stupid, then complain.

87. engineer-1701d unregistered

think its more of a ploy to get income from samsung cards. smart i guess

25. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

You would have to buy SanDisk Extreme Pro for instance, which is UHS-II and on paper comes close to S7 internal memory speeds. But doesn't come close to real life performance.

31. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

No phone actually supports UHS-2. Go watch the Note 4 use a 100MB/s card, which if you read the package says with adapter only, and watch the note 4 never get above ~40MB/s Those are s**t speeds when my 30buck Lumia with internal storage can hit 300-350MB/s. Until phones can actually use that speed, adaptive storage will make a phone slower and slower. Then you are relying on so many factors of sdcard reliability. I like that Samsung has choose this path, I do wish they did more of a thing like windows phone but as long as devices ship with 32GB im good.

39. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

I have a 80/100 mb speed card and using test app on my moto x play its run at this speed so not my fault if samsung use crappy sd card reader.

45. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

Lol Samsung is literally the king of memory speed in both microsds and SSDs

127. kevin91202

Posts: 642; Member since: Jun 08, 2014

Which is still slower than Samsung's UFS 2.0 internal storage speeds. The S6 can hit more than 300MB/sec in sequential read. Let's see your mSD card hit that.

148. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

I'm not calling you a liar, but you might want to help him out...http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-play/help/kingston-microsdxc-uhs-u3-slow-internal-t3322074

152. M.O.A.B

Posts: 322; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

"so not my fault if samsung use crappy sd card reader" That is one of the stupidest comments i have ever seen so far So you are saying that samsung is using a crappy sd card reader despite them using UFS 2.0 as internal storage and using finest and greatest component in every department in their flagship .. yeah seems legit And here's where your hating toward samsung shines ,, you failed to mention LG despite making the same decision about sd cards And not everyone have the same as your lovely sd card The problem is that there is 14 retarded thumped you up \:

66. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

The new Samsung S7 and LG G5 both support UHS-2 http://bgr.com/2016/02/22/best-galaxy-s7-lg-g5-microsd-cards/ But a 64 GB card will set you back 180 dollars and the 128 GB card will be 300 dollars

67. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Anyone who would compare the speed of internal storage to an sdcard, already has lost the battle. The controller for an sdcard isnt going to handle data the same as internal storage which is mounted on the PCB and transfers data at the speed of the BUS. That's liek trying to compare a floppy drive speed to the speed of the HDD/SSD. A class 10 card is fast enough not to slow a phone down. SDcards in my usage have not caused any noticeable change in speed. EVER! If you buy some cheap card, which I have no idea how bad they could be since i dont buy cheap stuff, I will never have to find out.

69. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Techie if you adopt the sd as internal you can still move apps to the onboard memory so basically you need speed put it on the onboard memory thats all. Still not experienced slower game loading using them from the SD so yeah maybe for bigger file transfert i will see the difference? Still no reason to remove the features they could just turn it off by default.

149. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

I am only comparing speed. Look what happened to encryption, we got plenty of users complaining to the carrier(s) that their phone slowed down and now they want a replacement. When you hybrid storage, and half data is one place and another another place, then it slows it down. Noticable to the user on a single app? Probably not. Start doing many things...and yes. Then what happens when the sd card fails?

124. Neros

Posts: 1016; Member since: Dec 19, 2014

Why would I need to exceed the 80-90MB/s write/read speeds. 4K recording requires 30MB/s write speed. Having card with 200MB/s is a waste of cash.

134. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I think you all need to read this, this will make your ufs be turned off the phone will lag like craphttp://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage Also sd cards are not made to be used as the main disk in most case it may go wrong and you will note the basic user will use cheap cards

137. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

This make a big problem if you use ufs because the speed of the sd card as to be close the the speed of the HD in the phone or you will get the old error your card is to slow, this means, it will happen with all cards, see Seehttps://source.android.com/devices/storage/adoptable.html And this part " When a user adopts a new storage device, the platform runs a benchmark and compares its performance against internal storage. If the adopted device is significantly slower than internal storage, the platform warns the user about a possibly degraded experience. This benchmark was derived from the actual I/O behavior of popular Android apps. Currently, the AOSP implementation will only warn users beyond a single threshold, but device manufacturers may adapt this fur"

20. Bm888

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 06, 2015

Samsung's decision ..for me is satisfactory. .this time they listened to their own loyalists. .those who are of contrary opinion , mostly are wannabes

54. DoggyDangerous

Posts: 1028; Member since: Aug 28, 2015

yeah, I agree. This is a good decision from LG and Samsung

55. Shocky unregistered

What the hell is that supposed to mean? There is no loyalty when it comes to smartphone purchases, if they don't deliver what you need you buy something else, simple as that. How can you be a wannabe loyalist? that's probably the stupidest thing I read today.

64. greyarea

Posts: 267; Member since: Aug 14, 2015

I also have no idea wtf that's supposed to mean. Other than fanboys get pretty defensive when other people don't immediately jump on board.

98. Bm888

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 06, 2015

in my case *wannabes refer to those other oems fanboys who always critic Samsung no matter anything

81. JunitoNH

Posts: 1946; Member since: Feb 15, 2012

For me too, glad Samsung is doing it; as for me I'm glad bought a Moto and taking advantage of the feature. Also, people have to understand, when you power up device, it gives you the option how you want to treat the card.

135. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I think you all need to read this, this will make your ufs be turned off the phone will lag like craphttp://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage Also sd cards are not made to be used as the main disk in most case it may go wrong and you will note the basic user will use cheap cards

30. phonearenarocks

Posts: 607; Member since: Mar 26, 2015

You know certain Samsung TVs which have built in support to record videos to external devices conduct performance tests and determine device as compatible or not. Samsung could have easily done this and added the Adoptive memory feature. Samsung surely had a chance to make more incredible phone that no phone released this year would have been able to catch up but they missed the trick, with a number of other features as well.

42. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Its already included in android 6.0 the system test the memory card to make sure its not slow and fast enuf.

138. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Hm the problem is the res test to see if it close to the speed of the included HD, hm and that will be the problem, it's not even going to get close to ufs, it does not get close to Emmc so ther be loads of errors and lag and so on, that and the basic customer will have no idea what they doing It's clear it a problem with ufs and why lg as not included it also

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