For third-party apps that use social login, Sign In with Apple will be mandatory, not optional

For third-party apps that use social login, Sign In with Apple will be mandatory, not optional
Third party apps that already use a social log-in service like Sign In with Facebook or Sign In with Google, supporting the new Sign In with Apple will be required, not optional.

The important disclaimer can be found in the fine print of its freshly updated App Store Review Guidelines:

This pretty much means that once the Sign In with Apple service is out of beta later this year, third-party app developers will have to be ready with the implementation and must support it in their apps.

The benefit of Sign In with Apple is first and foremost privacy. At WWDC, the company stressed that unlike Facebook and Google, it does not collect any information and will not track you. It's also expected to be even faster than those sign-in services, allowing you to be signed in with a single tap (unless an app requires your email). And speed for logins is, of course, of critical importance for companies like Uber and Bird that users often need to quickly sign into.

The other benefit of Sign In with Apple is for those pesky emails that you start getting spammed with as soon as you register with a new app. Apple will offer you to automatically create a randomized email address that will forward those emails to your main address. This will allow you to quickly disable that random email and never be bothered with pesky email notifications.

We should also point out that this new sign-in option will be required for implementation IF the app uses social login and will not affect apps that use a native log-in solution.



1. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 688; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

I think it is right that Apple forces the option to sign in with Apple. The headline of the article is misleading though. It sounds like Apple forces its users to use Sign in with Apple. I like that Apple is working on giving users more control and transparency about their data.

2. Shubham412302

Posts: 578; Member since: Nov 09, 2011


3. ChicagoBorn

Posts: 101; Member since: Jan 24, 2018

Best feature brought to iOS this year besides the dark mode. iPad got most of the love this year.

4. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 688; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

I agree. I have the feeling that Apple is neglecting the iPhone software-wise since two maybe three years already. It looks like that Apple regards the iPhone as quasi feature complete. Most important missing feature for me is picture in picture on iPhones.

5. Be_Mine

Posts: 258; Member since: Dec 29, 2013

I'm an android user so I'm a little curious to know... If you are Youtube Premium subscriber using an iPhone. What happen when go to Home or when you lock your phone. Does the video continue to play in the background, or does it stop altogether?

11. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 688; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

Can’t judge as I do not use you tube premium. Maybe you can find the answer on YouTube. I am sure somebody posted a video about that.

12. Vokilam

Posts: 1200; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

I use a different app called Musi to do the same - but costs me nothing. I don’t like to have to sign into google for anything - so I use workarounds. - but yes, when I lock my screen YouTube music continues to play without a hiccup.

16. md227a

Posts: 228; Member since: Mar 20, 2012

If you are a YouTube premium user on iOS the video will continue to play if the screen is off. I’ve been using the YouTube premium for a few years.

6. iloveapps

Posts: 855; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

I would love this. I trust apple with my data for security and privacy purposes.

13. oldskool50

Posts: 1550; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Of course you do. We wouldn't expect anything else.

7. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

This is awesome: I no longer have to have an email alias for all the bulls**t sites and I no longer have to offer them access to my Facebook public profile.

8. phoneguynh

Posts: 26; Member since: Oct 31, 2018

This I am excited for. I’m so sick of social media login especially Facebook. They will (do) sell your info the the devil if it gets them a dollar.

18. shonasof

Posts: 29; Member since: Mar 18, 2019

And Apple won't? Won't _any_ tech company?

20. mackan84

Posts: 459; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

At least they won’t find any info thru that made up apple-email you can delete afterwards...

9. slim3bdo

Posts: 173; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

Apple joined the robbers , so instead for selling your info through facebook ,now it will be sold by apple . If you believe apple is trying to keep your privacy and you know for fact that it was givin 7 billions by google to keep google search engine as the default on in safari . If you believe apple is keeping your info private then your a lost case , your brain is fried and you lost logic .

10. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

If you'll look at the keynote, you'll find that Apple creates a random email address that makes it impossible for sites/apps to track you; when you unsubscribe, or delete the access, the address is also going to be deleted and, when you subscribe again, there's a fresh new random email address. Which means you're a totally different person as far as the 3rd party is concerned. When you login with Facebook or Google, you're the same. I do the same through aliases: I create a new one every month to use with unknown/unsecured sites/apps.

14. Rampage_Taco

Posts: 1060; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

Yet APPLE still has your information. It's messed up that they are forcing developers to offer the "Sign in with Apple" option, rather than leaving it to their discretion. As for their random e-mail "technology", what's different from that then making a spare e-mail exclusively for signing up for Apps?

15. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Apple can only make a database with the information that X user has (or was once) subscribed to a certain site/app (but not in EU, here I can simply tell Apple to delete my history and I am a "brand new" user). The difference is that you have a unique email address for every site you visit - which means that sites cannot track you through data they get from other sites/apps and it's harder for anyone to create your "online fingerprint".

17. slim3bdo

Posts: 173; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

You dont have logic as we ALL know Apple accept a 7 billion from google ( the biggest miner of user info ) yet you will defend them Iet me simplify it for you : A known thief ( google ) makes a deal with another man X ( apple ) so he can steal man X customer's money And they got cought and exposed I call man X a thief also and i dont trust him in the future to do any business . I hope your simple brain can understand this example

19. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Actually, Google pays Apple $9B to be the default search engine. The apps in iOS are sandboxed, which means they do not communicate unless the OS lets them and the OS lets them only when the user allows that and only through Apple's APIs. So in iOS Google only learns exactly how much the user wants it to learn. PS: "we ALL know" - "ALL" are a bunch of dumb assess I couldn't care less ;).

21. mootu

Posts: 1520; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

"Actually, Google pays Apple $9B to be the default search engine." No one knows how much Google pays Apple. One analyst (Gene Munster) came out with that number, most others disagree with him.

23. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I couldn't care less, it was fun to make fun of that little dude :).

24. slim3bdo

Posts: 173; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

Lol you never fail to amuse me . My example is still standing Apple claims that its users are not the product , yet they accept a deal for 9billion from the biggest info minning company , try to spen it any way you like , google mine user info with apple blessing , ( again 9b just to make the default search engine should enlighten you , but guss wat i know you are an ..... , So accept your denial )

25. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

You have to know Safari's anti-tracking features in order to be able to talk to me on the matter. The user might be a product on Android or windows (although Firefox learned from Apple and now it also prevents tracking) but on iOS the user has all the tools to block Google from tracking his personal data.

26. slim3bdo

Posts: 173; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

99% of apps in iOS contain trackers no one knows about . Keep your self in your delusion state , WE know you will never get out . ROFL

27. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

In iOS, those trackers only work inside the said app; if I don't give that app my personal details (and I don't, unless I trust it), there's nothing that app can do to track me. That's exactly what happens with Google's default engine in Safari (the thing that Google pays Apple 9B for).

28. slim3bdo

Posts: 173; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

Even if you turn your personal data into gibberish on the iPhone by going to Settings > Privacy > Advertising and toggling on Limit Ad Tracking, the trackers will use other information. Data like the OS you use, your IP address and your carrier can be matched up with anonymous information to track you. This is from the same aricle about 99% of iOS apps have tracker hidden inside them . Keep living in your brainwashed statae . ROFL

22. KhaledChebat

Posts: 8; Member since: Mar 10, 2015

Title is misleading - it should say "Support for ..." is mandatory. The way it is could mean that users would have to sign-in with Apple Cloud account.

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