Court reduces Apple's award from Samsung related to the first patent trial

Court reduces Apple's award from Samsung related to the first patent trial
It seems like it was another lifetime ago back in August 2012 when Apple won $1.05 billion from Samsung as the result of a jury verdict in its favor. Samsung, as you might recall, was accused of infringing on a few patents owned by its rival. Apple never received that much money because a few months later, Judge Lucy Koh vacated $450 million of the award and ordered a new trial on the $450 million she had tossed. That new trial resulted in $290 million being awarded to Apple, further reducing Samsung's responsibility to $930 million.

Now, it appears that the award might be cut some more. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, D.C has asked the court in San Jose to reconsider the $382 million that was awarded to Apple for "trade dress dilution." The ruling, which agrees with Apple on every other aspect of the verdict, could make 40% of the amount awarded to Apple by the jury disappear in a heartbeat.

The Appeals Court ruling is basically admitting that while Samsung did infringe on Apple's design patents for the iPhone, Samsung did not steal Apple's "trade dress." Trade dress protection is allowed only in situations where the designs are non-functional. But an Apple executive said under oath that the design of the Apple iPhone was made "to create a new breakthrough design for a phone that was beautiful and simple and easy to use." Furthermore, a Samsung executive testified that some of the trade-dress that Apple claimed as its own, like the four rounded corners of the iPhone, made it more pocketable. According to the Appeals Court, this meant that the trade-dress was functional and the jury should not have awarded Apple the $382 million for the "trade dress dilution."

The ruling could end up cutting Samsung's payment to Apple down to $548 million. And of course, there is still the matter of the $119.6 million that Apple was awarded in the second patent trial between the two tech titans. That trial, which ended in May 2014, covered Samsung's alleged infringement with its more recent models.

source: Scribd via Reuters



35. My1cent

Posts: 370; Member since: Jan 30, 2014

- A rectangular product with four evenly rounded corners. - A flat, clear surface covering the front of the product. Lemme guess, a "Cutting board"? - Pinch to zoom Umm, using da "Chopsticks"? LMAO

16. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It should be reduced to ZERO

15. gaming64 unregistered

Fair enough for both companies. They both infringed each others patents so a 50-50 split is good enough. Happy to see the see the tech titans go along.

14. natypes

Posts: 1110; Member since: Feb 02, 2015

Only thing apple is first to is the patent office. The line probably looks like the one outside of an apple store when a "new" iphone is released. Just imagine the patents that have been rejected lol. "square phone like device for take pictures" ummm no "ok ok how about rectangular phone like device that takes pictures, but no picture comes out so it's not a polaroid?" nope "how about a device used to talk to someone that is not even in the room that can play music too!!" gtfo apple

34. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Actually MS out of the big ones have the most filings in patent office if I am not mistaken.

13. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

This trial shouldn't even have made it to the courts. Apple should be happy with any award for this crock of a trial. Too bad they agreed to no more lawsuits because I would love to see another iPhone ban that Obama has to Veto.

7. mixedfish

Posts: 1574; Member since: Nov 17, 2013

I think the most interesting outcome of the trial is that Apple has been denied the 'rounded rectangle' patent design. It would seem like the biggest 'no s**t sherlock' moment has been reached in the trial, but it only took 3 years and a few tens of millions of dollars to realize that.

8. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

What an insult! Apple call it their untouchable patent. LOL! Its really a trump card if they are allow to keep it.

5. Donbenie

Posts: 263; Member since: Aug 04, 2013

Lol,Seems only Apple Trolls got time for this Crap..

3. Zylam

Posts: 1826; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

Doesn't really matter much to any of these guys, its not like apple will lose sleep over 500 mill. The whole point of the trial was to get public attention and show people that samsung copied, they got they with the big billion number that was pushed on every major news site. Also when the court battles got serious samsung majorly changed its designs which resulted in the hideous S3 design language and the plastic of hell. Amazing it took them this long to get metal on their phones.


Posts: 1461; Member since: Mar 09, 2010

Apple has copied Android ever since. They copied message light. drop down menu, and size. The pocket PC phone was the 1st touch phone and it had a stylus with rounded corners. This trial was more about block Android then anything else While smaller companies like had no money to fight ended up paying royalties to patent troll Apple Samsung fought. Now those same BS patents that HTC pays royalties to have been found to be null and void by the patent department itself. Samsung may have copied apples design, but that is it. Apple has been chasing Samsung ever since hoping to kill their innovation with patent law suits. Hows that working so far. Don't get me wrong it is clear that Samsung copied Apples design but the award was way out of line, and was only awarded by iPhone lovers while technical parts were over looked. This is why there is major reversals in the 1st jury damage award. Without Apple the PCS handsets would be boring and obsolete by today's standard, but Samsung is now the innovator, and Apple needs to do as it has done in the past.....innovate and be the leader that they can be and drop these bullhit patent wars.

17. chebner

Posts: 251; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Is Apple chasing Samsung or Android? I think more Android than Samsung. But one thing there is no doubt over. With the S6 Samsung is back to copying Apple's designs. Take away the Samsung logo and give it a round home button and the only thing that differentiates the S6 from the iPhone 6 from the front is size. Samsung may be an innovator coming up with a lot of gimmicky features that don't always work the greatest, but they have no faith in their designers. The S6 Edge is a great and innovative design. But the higher ups had no idea if it would sell so they made the S6 as an iPhone clone. I have no respect for Samsung!! And this comes from an Apple hater.

22. tedkord

Posts: 17520; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

You're either blind or intentionally obtuse.

24. chebner

Posts: 251; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Please enlighten me Ted. The only differentiators on the front are the Samsung logo and oblong home button. If you remove the Samsung logo and put the iPhone 6 and GS6 with screens off in front of people not familiar with the phones and asked them if they thought the two devices were made by the same manufacturer, I bet the overwhelming majority would say they came from the same company. And my note about the screens being off is so they don't see the home screen because then the difference is obvious. It has nothing to do with the different display technologies and resolutions, because the average person wouldn't know or notice the difference. You can use the old argument about patents for thin rectangular rounded corner devices are BS, but why is it that the S6 looks so similar to the iPhone 6? I don't see any other phones available in the US that could so easily be mistaken for another device. I believe Samsung is fully capable of making a good original design, the S6 Edge proves that. Why do they still insist on making a copycat device?

28. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The design of the S6 actually follows Samsung's own device, the Ativ S which predates the iPhone 6 by 2 years. I don't understand how you skip over a device made by Samsung just to claim theiPhoen and the S6 look the same. That is pure BS. If anything Apple stole Samsung Ativ S design for their phone, not the other way around.

30. darkkjedii

Posts: 31799; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Let me guess, you typed that from your iPhone 4 right?

31. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

It is a dualness is it not? Technically unless you profit from android you really cant be dinged for anything. Since the core of AOSP is rather bare to the point you cannot compile it and run it as is, you need other things added in to make it work. And even more to make it work as we think of a smartphone OS. So while yes it targets android, it is targeting the OEM's who take said android, add on to it, then profit from it.

11. may_czos

Posts: 958; Member since: Nov 22, 2014

You know what Samsung copied? Apple patented "flat rectangle device with rounded edges and touch display". Basically all smartphones, phablets and tablets are infringing Apple's patent right now!

2. Hashed unregistered

Haven't heard about these court battles for a good while, it was a relief.

1. AnTuTu

Posts: 1625; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

hahaha the next trial will result into 'Samsung is paying $0.001 to Apple' :p

6. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

Apple will donate that to patriot gang so they can still have something to put into their mouth

18. waddup121 unregistered

ggwp apple!

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