Company reportedly unlocking terrorist's iPhone 5c for the FBI, also does work for Apple
posted by Alan F. / Mar 26, 2016, 11:45 AM
As it turns out, Cellebrite machines can be found inside Apple's retail stores. There, they are employed by reps who use it to transfer contact lists and other content from an old phone to a just purchased iPhone. What is interesting is that Cellebrite's website points out that its machines work with iPhones running iOS 8, but doesn't mention iOS 9. Yet, the Apple iPhone 5c that was used by Farook contains iOS 9.
Cellebrite's name came up after the FBI said that it was cancelling a court hearing that was scheduled to take place last Tuesday. At the time, the Feds said that it would no longer need the court to force Apple's cooperation since it found a third party to unlock Farook's iPhone. Additionally, a contract was discovered online on that very same day that showed the FBI agreeing to pay Cellebrite $15,278 to handle some job for it. It seemed like too much of a coincidence not to expect this to be related to the unlocking of the deceased terrorist's handset.
The fear that law enforcement officials have is that without knowing the passcode of a locked iPhone, information inside the device could get wiped after ten incorrect attempts to enter the code. To combat that, another firm called Rook Security has come up with a method to create a copy of the flash memory on an iPhone. The hope is that a backup will allow law enforcement to restore data that was wiped after ten incorrect attempts to crack the passcode.
With all of these security companies focused on selling their services to the government, it should come as no surprise when Syed Farook's phone is finally unlocked without Apple's involvement. Jeremy Kirby, sales director at Cellebrite competitor Susteen sums up the current situation. "Anything is crackable," Kirby says. "It's just how much time do you have and how much money do you have to spend."
source: AP via BGR
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Very clever to use an Israeli firm because any American criticising Israel for any reason are somehow seen as anti-American.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 12:26 PM 0
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Very clever indeed considering that many of the core components for modern cellphones were developed there - and that Apple itself has also opened R&D facilities there - not to mention the many Israeli tech startups they have bought-out to improve innovation in their next generations of iPhones.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 1:29 PM 0
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Ok am I the only one who would have requested a LOT more from the government for hacking the iPhone?? While I know we the citizens pay for that charge in the end, $15,278 isn't a lot for a big business like Cellebrite. It would be curious to see how they came to such a paltry sum.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 12:29 PM 1
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"Anything is crackable" 100% agreed. Nothing made by man is unhackable by man.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 12:32 PM 7
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Certainly anything made by those clowns at Apple. #seeTheLight
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 12:43 PM 7
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It may be easier with apple's software and devices, considering they're the most vulnerable on the planet (even worse than flash that they despise): http://www.dereferer.org/?http
But doesn't make it impossible with Android/Linux nor Windows.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 12:52 PM 5
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It depends on which variant of Windows. Although I agree with the general statement that it is not impossible to break into any OS, however, I have yet to see any evidence of anyone being able to break into Windows Phone 8, 8.1 or Windows 10 Mobile. The only system that would be next to impossible to break into is one that is non-networked, heavily guarded with multiple layers of physical security, requires some special piece of hardware to boot it and the storage is encrypted to a degree that would take even a quantum computer decades to crack(which would be very insane encryption).
posted on Mar 27, 2016, 2:27 AM 0
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Why the big hoopla about Apple designing a gov iOS then? Since they can do this.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 12:54 PM 0
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Why is everyone acting like Cellebrite is a new thing? Cellebrite has been around for a long time, it's what cell carriers used to transfer contacts and such from a customer's old phone to their new one. In fact, before we had all these leakers posting info, most upcoming phone confirmation came from a device being added to Cellebrite's database. This is not a new thing, look it up. http://www.phonearena.com/sear
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 1:13 PM 1
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I'm glad Apple put their foot down, and kept it down.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 2:13 PM 1
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"You would be glad, because you are a big Apple blind Fanboys". Here is what I have not seen addressed. Apple is acting like the only way to open THAT PARTICULAR PHONE is to put in a 'back door' that will affect all their phones. Why can't they just open that one? If that can be done, their intransigence would be completely ridiculous. And, while I'm typing this on a MacBookPro, this would be the LAST Apple product I'd buy. Who wants to do business with a company that protects known terrorists?
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 8:29 PM 0
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If it was an android device. And the device is tightly secured. Then, it was used by the terrorists. Afterwards, after getting the terrorists android device and wants Google to unlock the device. And Google refuses them. Would you respond the same comment as the same as your doing to Apple right now. I'm a hybrid user and I know when to judge in a right place.
posted on Mar 27, 2016, 10:33 PM 0
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HA! I knew there was something fishy in this story!
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 3:33 PM 0
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What this company is doing for the DOJ is not what the DOJ was asking Apple to do. The DOJ asked Apple to make a special OS that they can't easily get into anytime they want. This company is just going to try to break into the phone like a robber breaking into your house.
posted on Mar 26, 2016, 3:37 PM 1
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Think laws will change once trump gets in office
posted on Mar 27, 2016, 5:06 PM 0
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