Bummer, the Note 8 and S8 Oreo update won't bring Treble support

Bummer, the Note 8 and S8 Oreo update won't bring Treble support
The new features that Android 8.0 Oreo brings aren't overwhelming, but one of them is of particular note - Project Treble. It is Google's final push to remedy slow Android updates by separating the basic, core Android framework, from the manufacturer image, and allow it to be updated much faster than before. 

There are a few Project Treble phones currently on the market, including Huawei's Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro, but, unfortunately, Samsung's ultrapopular Galaxy S8 or Note 8, won't be one of those after their respective Oreo updates, it seems. 

An app called Termux was run on both phones, running their respective Android 8.0 betas, but it didn't return a "true" value, so Samsung has either decided to keep Treble in hiding until the retail Oreo update version hits the handsets, or the Galaxy S8 and Note 8 are never meant to have their Android core split from Samsung's Experience UI overlay. Bummer.

source: Blorge

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39 Comments

1. hmd74

Posts: 540; Member since: Jan 31, 2013

WTF ?!

2. BGChicago

Posts: 225; Member since: Nov 16, 2014

Why are you surprised? Samsung phones are heavily customised, I don't see how Treble can be applied on the at this stage.

10. NickHill

Posts: 388; Member since: May 07, 2016

Project Treble has nothing to do with customisation. It supports devices running Oreo on boot. S8, S8+, Note 8 all launched with Nougat. No surprises here.

38. bobby84

Posts: 595; Member since: May 13, 2016

Yes anyone who keeps up with tech knows this. Treble is only for phone that are released with 8.0 so the s8 will have this

13. CHP19

Posts: 50; Member since: Jun 23, 2017

This was already known, project Treble is only on devices launching with Oreo. Google made this very clear. None of the current Samsung devices launched with Oreo.

20. hmd74

Posts: 540; Member since: Jan 31, 2013

Oh! i really didn't know that. thanks for info

27. vincelongman

Posts: 5691; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Its false info Essential and Huawei launched phones with Nougat, their Oreo update brings Treble support Devices launching with Oreo will have Treble support Devices launched with Nougat can be updated with Treble support if the OEM wants to put in the effort

32. NickHill

Posts: 388; Member since: May 07, 2016

Its not about the effort. Its all about the framework that previous versions of Android may or may not have This article explains better: https://www.androidauthority.com/project-treble-818225/

33. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

They can be updated with Treble support yes, but there is a risk involved. Treble uses additional partitions that aren't available on most Nougat devices. Adding those after the device has been in use for some time can cause them to brick. That's why a lot of OEMs are opting to exclude it from the update. You can't really blame them for it, the devices weren't intended for the inclusion of Treble to begin with and so they're not obligated to add it at certain risk to the user.

29. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

For you to buy the Note 9 and S9 of course.

37. andrewc31394

Posts: 295; Member since: Jun 23, 2012

Incorrect, manufacturers can choose whether or not to implement Treble when upgrading a device to 8.0. Any devices LAUNCHING with Oreo however must support Treble

3. Paranoid_Android unregistered

So they pulled out a classic Samsung.no surprise.

21. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

So tell me which vendor is offering treble in an OTA update? Only 3 so far and only limited models

30. Paranoid_Android unregistered

When you pay for high end devuces, you wxpect giod support, not half baked updates. Samsung, no more purchases from you. Next!!

39. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Since an OTA with treble support would mean a risky update, since the partition table has to be altered, I can understand why they don't want to update to treble using OTA since chances are pretty high you'll soft brick your phone or even worse, hard brick it.

36. luis.aag90

Posts: 274; Member since: Aug 12, 2014

I would wait until final Oreo build to make those statements

4. KillerKeyboard

Posts: 372; Member since: Nov 21, 2013

Huawei's nipping at your heels, Samsung...

14. Tziggy14

Posts: 624; Member since: Sep 02, 2014

You mean Apple's heels. Despite Huawei's progress, they're still not at even half of Samsung's yearly sales. lmao.

26. KillerKeyboard

Posts: 372; Member since: Nov 21, 2013

True... Though, should I say nipping at Samsung's thigh? That's just about below half. Weird. Heh.

17. Trex95

Posts: 2381; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

After I used mate 10 sorry I will still give to Samsung even though I’m not a big fan of there touchwiz UI.

25. KillerKeyboard

Posts: 372; Member since: Nov 21, 2013

I'd agree on that, I dd an S8+... but competition is always good. :)

34. Trex95

Posts: 2381; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Competition always good for sure. But Huawei still can’t solve there heating issue with their phones even mate 10 still has this issue.

5. cmdacos

Posts: 4200; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Which manufactures updated (not launched) to Oreo and supported treble?

11. STRANG3R

Posts: 234; Member since: Sep 24, 2015

Huawei and google pixel and essential

12. cmdacos

Posts: 4200; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Cool... Huawei is good news... Couldn't care less about the other 2

22. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Huawei only supports treble over OTA on the Huawei Mate 9 and Huawei Honor 8 Pro.

24. KillerKeyboard

Posts: 372; Member since: Nov 21, 2013

... [del]

6. gigicoaste

Posts: 456; Member since: Feb 21, 2016

what a bummer, what a tragedy!! Move a long! I am happy with current update regularity! Phone works well, I don't install apps outside of Google play.. I don't tap on any pop-up window I see..

7. kick413

Posts: 162; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Probably start from the S9

8. mikehunta727 unregistered

Sucks but was expected

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