Bloomberg: iPhone 8's face-mapping and ProMotion display tech may be tasked to a 'Neural Engine' co-processor

Stacking on yesterday's iPhone 8 revelations by famed Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, comes a Bloomberg source who confirms that the phone might not sport the traditional Touch ID sensor at the front bottom indeed. Instead, Apple is toying around with the rumored 3D facial recognition for unlocking the phone and authorizing secure payments. The 3D-mapping is apparently done by a dedicated sensor/laser emitter combo at the top front of the device, but it would differ from the gimmicky iris scanning that Samsung offers on its newer phones, as there is a depth component, and it's not easy to fool it with a simple face printout.

Bloomberg's sources aren't yet sure if the face recognition feature will be what's replacing Touch ID in the iPhone 8, but work on it is evidently in advanced stages, and it's even deemed to be more secure than a finger scan, as the system takes much more points into account. We aren't exactly sure how the 3D-mapping will work with glasses on, or after a bar fight, but we may find out soon enough.

The other interesting tidbit about the upcoming iPhone 8 are that it could sport the same ProMotion display tech that came with the new iPad Pro models. It essentially increases the refresh rate for less scrolling blur, and, in the case of the new iPhones, will be managed by a new dedicated AI co-processor within the A11 chipset. Apple is calling the new chip Neural Engine, and is allegedly intent on tasking it with specialized AI functions like typing predictions and face/image recognition, in order to offload these tasks from the main processor cores, and save on battery.

The rest of Bloomberg's piece mostly rehashes design clues we've already heard about - that the iPhone 8 will sport a glass sandwich design with tapered sides, and a very thin stainless steel frame circumventing the phone, which will make it look almost entirely made of glass. The front will be occupied by the new ProMotion display, with only a section cutout at the top for the earpiece, camera and sensors. Apple's traditional home key will be replaced with a soft button and/or swipe gestures, and all of these moves will allow the iPhone 8 to come not much larger than the iPhone 7, yet fitting a display panel almost the size of the 7 Plus. Initial supplies are expected to face a bottleneck, says Bloomberg, likely due to the lack of sufficient OLED panels yield, but there will always be the more traditional, LCD-equipped iPhone 7s and 7s Plus to fall back on for those who are impatient. Good times.

source: Bloomberg   

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1. Stranger

Posts: 73; Member since: Jan 19, 2017

Cool :)

2. peace247 unregistered

Bankz must be having orgasm in his basement

5. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1817; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

He's passed out at this point...

6. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

LOL his housemates should expect a shortage in tissue and lotion. But yeah, this ProMotion display looks like really cool stuff, looking forward to it.

12. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I hope 120Hz displays become widespread quickly, at the moment its only in Sharp phones and the 2017 iPad Pro I think Apple, Samsung and Google will soon adopt it for AR/VR

13. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

I completely agree, I was hoping for a 120hz display smartphone for years.

25. sgodsell

Posts: 7249; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

All OLED displays can already operate at 120 Hz or higher. However it's also up to the OS, GPU, and application that has to take advantage of, and use those frame rates as well.

28. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Still depends on the individual yield quality too OS and GPU aren't the issue Sharp has been doing it since 2015 on Lollipop and 808 It depends on if the phone OEM wants it enough Then can ask Samsung/LG/JDI for 120Hz capable displays (i.e. better yields that can all meet 120Hz)

7. drunkenjay

Posts: 1657; Member since: Feb 11, 2013

sexual asphyxiation

16. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Lol, that actually made me laugh tbh. Despite our arguments, fighting, trolling, tag-teaming and all, i must say i love u guys and we are the exact reasing i visit PA everyday. U guys are like family tbh..

17. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"U guys are like family tbh." LMAO.

20. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Well, not in the literal sense but u get what i mean. Christ, stop being so sensitive.

27. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1817; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

You woke up... Thought we lost to a overload of apple tech rumors

3. Mreveryphone

Posts: 1817; Member since: Apr 22, 2014

So iris scanning is gimmicky but facial recognition isn't? Samsungs iris scanner has been proven to work, but we haven't seen the iPhone 8 nor it's facial recognition... Not understanding how you could call something that's out in the market gimmicky yet it works really well and not something that is just a rumor and we've never seen it work??? It's not even proven yet but your already praising it... Blind fanboyism at it's finest.

11. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Also Sharp had 120Hz back in 2015 But most people didn't know that as their phones were Japan exclusive (me included)

14. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Gotta avoid Apple's blacklist, because once PA gets in the blacklist, no more review units and event invitation for PA.

19. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Well, its because of the amount of high-tech and thought put into it and the fact that we're hearing that it will work when the screen is off, and even with the phone lying face down (courtesy of the motion sensor) making it equally as fast as a fps and that it'll not need u to behave like a robot by holding it directly at your face and at be in certain position before it works. Btw, the iris scanner isn't a gimmick by any means but u cant deny that its under cooked, unpolished, requires more steps, slower and is generally hit and miss. So in a nutshell, the iris scanner on samsung phones are unnatural and unintuitive to use.

4. peace247 unregistered

Fyi iphonearena....Samsungs gimmicky eris scanner can't be unlocked just by a cut out.

8. zebraman

Posts: 59; Member since: Sep 11, 2013

The galaxy iris scanner works great. Honestly who steels someones phone then goes and find a perfect picture of them on the internet print it to unlock a phone anyways. That's a lot of effort most thieves don't know the name of the person's phone they are steeling. So good luck trying to find there name and search the internet for a photo of them to unlock a phone.

21. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

There is little to no security tech which can not be fooled. What companies need to do is make sure their security solution is hard for people with average knowledge to unlock.

9. Bondurant

Posts: 780; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

This feature already exists in Huawei's Honor magic.

10. Guaire

Posts: 885; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

So Apple finally ditching gimmicky fingerprint scanner which can be fooled by a simple use of glue.

15. 47AlphaTango

Posts: 719; Member since: Sep 27, 2015

So the iphone 8 is gonna be the first one to have a 120hz refresh rate.... What's else is: 1. Possible 512GB internal storage for a smartphone. 2. Nearly Full screen to body ratio with on screen fingerprint scanner and also the retina scanner. 3. Second unit to utilize VR and AR technology after Asus Zenfone AR. What's next?

22. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

The iphone 8 might still include the fps tbh. I really doubt that they'll be confident to go this route, except if the recognition system is damn impressive.

18. NaqebSpecial

Posts: 7; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

Well apple is really been pushing the hardware limits of the iPhone like the possibility of implementing a similar processor of the ipad pro 10.5, but sadly ignoring the little software implementation consumers would like to have

23. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

This right there is the problem i have with apple. They have all the advanced stuff yet ignore the little things like a file manager, bluetooth transfer, and downloading videos online. Its quite puzzling tbh.

26. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

Gimmicky Iris scanner? Lol iphonearena never ceases to amaze me how blatant they with their bias. It's like they dint even try to be impartial like what journalists are suppposed be.

29. alexiboat

Posts: 14; Member since: Nov 13, 2016

IPhone 7's bezels looks too ugly, am still waiting for iPhone 8

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