Apple: yeah, the iPhone 8 could do Animoji, but they would be lousy Animoji



Apple has responded to the tempest in a teapot that resulted when the TrueDepth camera was covered in a review, and Animoji still worked, by saying that, yeah, it would somehow work, but the experience won't be the full quality its developers strive for. 

The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus, it turns out, which also have the A11 Bionic processor and ARKit support, could have in theory been enabled for Animoji, but the resulting facial expression tracking would be nowhere near the level achieved with the depth mapping available on the iPhone X. That is why Apple isn't offering Animoji on the iPhone 8, as this is their flagship demo of what the inimitable TrueDepth camera set is capable of. 

You can cover the IR camera of the iPhone X, for instance, and see your Animoji stop working in low light for an idea what would the experience be on an iPhone 8, not to mention the depth-mapping algorithms that can transliterate every nook and cranny of your face into a talking fox. The moral of Apple's reply seems to be that, yes, Animoji could work only with a selfie camera, but the level of unsurpassed mimicking detail and consistent performance in all lighting conditions wouldn't be up to Apple's standards, hence you only have them enabled on the iPhone X.

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39 Comments

1. pecapello

Posts: 106; Member since: Feb 19, 2015

I call this bs

4. Phullofphil

Posts: 1762; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

Why because you have an iPhone s a can prove them wrong. Makes more sense that Animojis do is all the Face ID scensors. All the apps that try doing it with just camera have a bad results.

20. KParks23

Posts: 722; Member since: Oct 13, 2010

Agreed with Phil. But in all honesty who cares the only people using this crap are middle school kids anyway, it's lame as hell.

40. Lauticol

Posts: 404; Member since: Jun 25, 2011

They could have easily added the TrueDepth sensors to the iPhone 8, it has lots of space in that bezel

45. sgodsell

Posts: 7191; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

If Apple added the truedepth sensors, then they could have added FaceID to the iPhone 8 as well. Therefore the iPhone 8's would have both FaceID, and TouchID. Thus making the iPhone X feel like your not getting much for the money. I would rather have the older styled iPhone 8 plus with both TouchID and FaceID and loose the bezel less OLED display.

8. bucknassty

Posts: 1325; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

Apple told Marques Brownlee he better not put this out there that the animoji feature does not use the expensive "face" recognition sensors... they would probably remove funding to his channel

11. Manny0122

Posts: 32; Member since: Jan 16, 2017

Do you see his review??

31. Phullofphil

Posts: 1762; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

So you have proof

10. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

That's called denial. It's an Android fanboy symptom. Not surprised.

2. GdgetXpert1337

Posts: 117; Member since: Oct 31, 2017

Yup animoji qualty go down and than work bad when you cover some sensor

3. Telemike

Posts: 43; Member since: Nov 30, 2012

Animoji are worth $200 upcharge

5. Phullofphil

Posts: 1762; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

No it’s not. Mostly all screen design, 3D mapping, amoled screen, better rear cameras to name a few are.

6. Peacetoall unregistered

Apple fanboys 2011 to 2016 - amoled panel are bad they suffer unsaturation and burn in until apple themselves used it in iphone x wow super amoled panel are so GODLY. you people seriously have zero dignity.

12. whatev

Posts: 2193; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Using android and the low quality devices that are available for that platform is what I call zero dignity

23. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1377; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

I use a $250 Moto G5 Plus and it's a far superior experience than a $650 iPhone. Has a better screen, smooth UI, good camera, nifty little features and above all I'm not limited to how Apple wants me to use my phone.

28. whatev

Posts: 2193; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Can you define “better” when referring to your phone? Like, as far as I know the iPhone 7 for example was named the best lcd screen on a smartphone ever, the camera is one of the best, iPhones have software updates up to 5 years, while your low end phone will struggle to get even last year’s version of android because Lenovo doesn’t care about low end devices, and that’s a regular behavior from any android oem, they just try to give their “best” to their flagships and totally forget about the other devices. The iPhone gets better apps and games exclusives, just try to compare how the apps work on an iPhone and then compare it your phone, the same with games, look for comparisons between the iPhone 5S gaming experience and newer devices like the GS7, GS8, pixel, etc, don’t watch that if you don’t want to cry, you’ll be surprised how well an iPhone as old as the 5S performs better on very intensive graphics games compared to android flagships. So don’t come talking about user experience when you know nothing about what you’re saying, if you’re fine with a mediocre user experience then that’s your choice, I won’t sacrifice that for a bigger screen which doesn’t add anything to my experience

32. Phullofphil

Posts: 1762; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

Says who. I have always liked amoled. But I also like Samsung’s amoled. They have almost cartoon like reality.

7. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

"the level of unsurpassed mimicking detail" Unsurpassed compared to what?

9. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Compared to any other flagship phone available right now and probably until 2020...lol Your beloved crappy Android Samsung phones or pixels don't even come close. Not even a day dream about moving facial expressions using a 3d camera system. No offense.

37. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

I don't own a Samsung or Pixel phone and give a rats ass about animoji's since I am over the age of 15 years old. And I am pretty sure good software can come close to (or surpass) these unsurpassable mimicking details, since animojis itself don't even contain micro expressions, but just the basic ones. No offense

17. ShadowWarrior

Posts: 165; Member since: Aug 08, 2017

where's that article about Animoji being developed by someone else way before Apple introduced the iPhone X?

39. Donforreal

Posts: 60; Member since: Oct 12, 2012

apple has always done that, going back to releases of OSX where developers of programs for OSX were dismayed that the next version contained the same features as their software and thus made them obsolete and the developers furious, threatening to stop making software for OSX.

19. cmdacos

Posts: 4098; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Why are we spending so much time on something that will barely be used a year from now if not sooner.

24. whatev

Posts: 2193; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Why are you spending so much time on apple articles if you don’t like it?

35. cmdacos

Posts: 4098; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Because I like seeing Apple fans follow the pied piper...

44. whatev

Posts: 2193; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Let me fix your reply: “Because I like trolling” You’re welcome ;-)

34. Phullofphil

Posts: 1762; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

Yeah so what like everything else out there it’s technology that moves past it and people have short attention spans

41. KeyserSoze

Posts: 387; Member since: Oct 06, 2014

Bwahahaha! Apple got busted for lying about animojis to hype up their useless 3D face-scan camera, typical! You iSheep will still not mind of course. That's cuz you're so blindly loyal to Apple that even if they smear sht on your face and tell you to lick it off, you chumps will still comply and say "Thank you, may I have another!"

43. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

It's amazing that RDF infected bloggers keeps defending this kind of behavior just because it's done by the fruity toy store. When will this Stockholm syndrome in gadget bloggery end?

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