Apple and Samsung together account for... 109% of industry profits

Apple and Samsung together account for... 109% of industry profits
We may be sounding like a broken record, but there's no arguing with hard data: the mobile industry is, for all intents and purposes, a two-horse race. According to data from Canaccord Genuity, shared by Apple Insider, the Apple and Samsung duo accounts for a whopping 109% of the industry profits. This rather confusing number is by virtue of the losses that the rest of the industry incurred.

Canaccord Genuity estimates that Apple took 56% of the operating profits for Q3 2013 – a jump from 53% from the quarter before. Sammy's share also saw an increase from 49% in Q2 to 53% of industry profits for this last quarter, trailing ever so slightly behind the Cupertino-based company.

In a stark contrast, the rest of the industry bled money, with BlackBerry being the biggest loser with negative 4% of profits, followed by Motorola and it's negative 3% 'share'. The rest – Nokia, LG and HTC – all took an equally-sized hit of -1% of profits. In fact, only Sony managed to break-even, though as you can see at its previous results, the company has been incredibly stagnant – not losing money, but barely ever making any.

Anyhow, as you delve into the numbers below, keep in mind that these figures are not 100% representative, “as some Android OEMs include tablet sales in reported smart device sales and profits,” according to T. Michale Walkley with Canaccord Genuity. In other words, according to the analyst, the actual share of Apple is even higher, which is actually not at all that surprising – Cupretino does have a ridiculous tower of cash. It's also important to note that shares of Chinese manufacturers, such as ZTE, Huawei and CoolPad, have not been accounted for. This means that Apple's and Samsung's share of the profits pie is lower than reported, but still quite indicative.



1. apple4never

Posts: 1064; Member since: May 08, 2013

now both of you combine, screw patents and make a badass superphone

3. rawbow

Posts: 428; Member since: Mar 30, 2012


4. LiyanaBG

Posts: 381; Member since: Nov 07, 2013

this is one of those things that never happen in life :)

5. _Bone_

Posts: 2155; Member since: Oct 29, 2012

It's called the Galaxy Note 3. Google's OS, Samsung's features and Apple's rectangular corners, icon rows and middle button.

14. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

So true. +1 for you.

31. piggypigs

Posts: 12; Member since: Jul 21, 2012

Wow, so in addition to the "Universal rectangular corners" which has been in existence since the first man made device eons ago, the iFruity now owns the icon row which has been in use in PDA since the beginning and the middle button that even predates that? Mind boggling stuff. How do they do it? :P

9. someones4

Posts: 627; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

However, when this incident occurs, it will trigger a hard reset of reality and result in the collapse of the space time continuum and erasing this universe from existence

19. darkkjedii

Posts: 31034; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Man wouldn't that be nice?!!

36. batman888

Posts: 37; Member since: Dec 06, 2012

it would mean The Sapple iGalaxy !

2. eisenbricher

Posts: 973; Member since: Aug 09, 2012

What an unbalanced distribution!

12. asulect

Posts: 131; Member since: Aug 27, 2012

That's actually pretty normal in bussiness where the market is highly competitive. This happens in a lot of places. Any company that come in third place usually do not do well for too long. Take a look carriers, AT&T, Verizon are first and second. Sprint, third, but losing money. Microsprocessors for PCs, Intel and AMD, the third place? already bankrupted. Operating Systems, MS Windows, Apple OSX, third place? linux? Linux company has less than 10% market share. Airplane manufractures, Boeing, Airbus, third place? You get the point.

35. rusticguy

Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

Linux is king in server market.

6. MrTzr unregistered

Sony is underestimated by people.

7. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

They just got their act together this year. Give it time and the rest will also up their game in the coming months. We all saw how quickly HTC went from top to bottom, so the same can happen to anyone.

18. emadshiny

Posts: 1144; Member since: Dec 05, 2012

I think we must wait untill the time Sony starts selling phones on every American and Chinese carrier. These two are very important markets. But they are doing good in spite of loosing those two great markets.

33. piggypigs

Posts: 12; Member since: Jul 21, 2012

True, although much of what happened to HTC is self inflicted. Complacency, turning a deaf ear to user complaints and ignoring usability issues and updates ... the list goes on. Thankfully Samsung has not shown too many of these signs yet. Will be good if LG and Sony manage to get a bigger market share and turn up the heat a little.

8. asingha94

Posts: 295; Member since: Apr 08, 2012

Because sony hardly wows!

20. emadshiny

Posts: 1144; Member since: Dec 05, 2012

Would you please show me the wows of Apple or Sammy? If you look at every exceptional technology, you will definitely find a trace of Sony's contribution in it. for example, the first bendable display or the first OLED TV. So, open your eyes and see the reality.

26. Long1

Posts: 399; Member since: May 18, 2013

29. wilsong17 unregistered

10. hung2900

Posts: 966; Member since: Mar 02, 2012

No. In fact Sony is overestimated by Sony fans. Sony fans always blah blah blah abt why don't choose Sony, where Sony is,...

13. Shatter

Posts: 2036; Member since: May 29, 2013

Sony was good but not anymore, they like to overprice things. There are very few Sony products I would ever consider buying and a phone is not one of them.

22. ArtSim98

Posts: 3535; Member since: Dec 21, 2012

At least in Finland Sony products are not more expensive than Samsung AT ALL.

30. Sauce unregistered

Phonearena looks nice on my Sony Playstation 4 browser ^_^ But yes, I agree with your last sentence :P

16. lee480 unregistered

Sony is at a better position compared to Nokia, LG, Motorola, BB and HTC. It can produce sales, unlike the rest. This simply shows they rest do not wow consumers.

27. Long1

Posts: 399; Member since: May 18, 2013

Have you ever realized that Samsung are THE ONLY COMPANY IN THE WORLD, that offers both - SD support and swappable battery in the high-end devices?? Samsung have no competition for the ppl that want these features. Some of you will oppose me with Apple.......well Apple have zombies that buy logo - not functionality. There is the difference.

38. tasior

Posts: 265; Member since: Nov 04, 2012

That's very true. I'm used to swappable battery, and had a lot of trouble when trying to find good phone that is not Samsung...

11. microsoftnokiawin

Posts: 1268; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

so healthy for the ecosystem -_- !

15. Jason78

Posts: 281; Member since: Apr 10, 2013

Just to point out the obvious you can't have two companies with 56% of 3Q profits just as you can't have the two combined take 109% of total profits. When you add each companies share the total must equal 100%. Basic math.

17. asulect

Posts: 131; Member since: Aug 27, 2012

Who said there are only 2 smartphone companies? The third, the fourth and the fifth and all the other ones negative profits. When you sum the companies with negative profits and the 2 top company, you'll get your basic math 100%.

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