Apple, Samsung CEO-level talks fail to produce any agreements

Apple, Samsung CEO-level talks fail to produce any agreements
When Judge Lucy Koh of the United States District Court for the Northern District of California ordered that Samsung and Apple sit down to negotiate a settlement of their patent war, she might have held some hope that getting the CEO's of both firms together would result in some give and take. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. An unnamed Samsung executive told the Korea Times that during the talks, both sides held firm to their arguments. Apple says that Korean based Samsung copied its designs while Samsung feels that Apple should license its wireless patents.

On both Monday and Tuesday, both Apple CEO Tim Cook and Samsung CEO  sat down along with U.S. Magistrate Judge Joseph C. Spero.  The two sides met on Monday and Tuesday and Judge Spero filed the minutes of the meetings with the court. Monday's filing had noted the meeting for Tuesday but yesterday's minutes made no mention of further talks.

What happens now? It's back to court. On June 7th, the court will hear Apple's request for a preliminary injunction against the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. If both sides can't reach an agreement on the patent issues, a trial will start June 27th . Ironically, Apple CEO Cook has said that he hates litigation. Samsung's mobile chief J.K. Shin, who accompanied Gee-Sung to the talks, had told reporters Sunday at Gimpo Inmternational Airoport that Apple's claims were "preposterous". And while Samsung had previously said that it was not interested in cross-licensing deals with Apple, Shin did bring it up as one solution to the legal mess that both companies find themselves in.

Frankly, we would like to see both Samsung and Apple go in front of Judge Judy. That would probably solve the whole patent issue in 15 minutes.

source: KoreaTimes, via FOSSPatents


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49 Comments

1. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Whoa. Wait. Is that Samsung saying "hey, dumbass, if you would only allow us we'd pay you for these patents you claim we're infringing on!"?! I mean, this, despite how ridiculously minute the patent claims are. Absolutely friggin amazing.

13. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

APPLE is afraid of Samsung - notice how APPLE is starting to give less work to Samsung as a supplier?

28. dickwyn

Posts: 621; Member since: May 07, 2012

yes the panels and ram are not from them anymore so they basically worth lesser and earn lesser

2. GuiltyBystander

Posts: 199; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

Shocker..

3. cncrim

Posts: 1588; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

I knew it. No way apple will why should they, and samsung will do the same thing if theyhave upper hand.

4. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

The only time a settlement discussion produces a settlement is when both parties aren't certain about the outcome and the downside is compelling. Apple feels they have the upper hand. Until they cease to feel they have the upper hand, there won't be any meaninful move to settle the case.

5. 1ceTr0n

Posts: 549; Member since: May 20, 2012

Boy, glad I got my Galaxy Note when I did. Wonder if the G3 shipping will be delayed because of this BS?

6. jmoita2

Posts: 930; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

Surprise, surprise...

7. TROLL.ISAHA

Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

The lire the traitor the wimp the looser the pu§§\ is On the left!!!!!

8. shamataa

Posts: 257; Member since: Dec 07, 2011

OMG Apple stop being a jerk and make peace already. Jesus christ . What a waist of time if Apple isnt willing to cooperate.

9. 9_HeLLs_oF_DrOid

Posts: 127; Member since: Jan 02, 2012

So much for hating ligitations Mr. Tim Cook, eh? Steve Jobs or Tim Cook, Apple will be Apple.

10. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

So basically Samsung said we won't stop copying, but we'll pay you if you let us continue to copy your products. Man if that isn't an admission of guilt and lack of being able to make successful products on their own I don't know what is.

12. adi4u4882

Posts: 137; Member since: Jan 10, 2012

Do you even Read the Topic? Apple are greedy bastards who wants no opposition. So they try to take Samsung like this. Do you have your own brain or is in the same crap as Apple? Think before posting.

15. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

I know that taco is a troll, but it does read as: Apple says that Korean based Samsung copied its designs while Samsung feels that Apple should license its wireless patents. So, Samsung is not really denying that they are copying...but seriously - touch screen phones with a rectangle shape...and then the HTC issue with how documents are being formatted....really pushing the envelope....

17. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

I agreed with Taco. finally Samsung admitting guilt.. and want to pay their way out of it... not classy samsung.. now I understand the nonsense from their fans... is thought by Samsung

14. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

See, I knew you were going to say that. And to correct you, it's more like "Hey, I know you think we're copying your s**t. And although we think you're wrong and you're overreacting, we'll gladly pay you money for the stuff you claim we're copying." The other angle is the question: even if Samsung is implementing design choices patented by Apple, should there be patents on those choices to begin with? Should Apple really have a corner on curved edges and a list of possible apps to open a link? Every customer to whom I've had to explain why the Evo 4G LTE isn't out yet has expressed shock and disgust at the pettiness of the patent involved in the lawsuit that Apple won. None have said "well, HTC shouldn't have used the design then." Not even the Apple product owners.

18. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

"Hey, I know you think we're copying your s**t. And although we think you're wrong and you're overreacting, we'll gladly pay you money for the stuff you claim we're copying." I doubt that's was really said.. why because no ones offers money or settlement if they are not at guilt.. and btw Apple doesn't claim Samsung is copying.. they are certain....

19. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Google offered a settlement to Oracle about a year ago, and they just won that lawsuit. ARGUMENT. DESTROYED.

20. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

yes but Apple is no Oracle.. and Samsung is no Google.. evidence.. dismissed

21. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

But it's still a situation where the party who offered the settlement won the lawsuit. Evidence sustained.

25. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

this show that you don't know how the law works... Apple is bigger than Oracle.. if little Oracle says Giant Google infringed in patents the judge will not act the same as if it was Giant Apple vs. Samsung whom is smaller than Google.. please Google other articles to find more about this.. even Samsung is admitting guilt when all the fandroids were saying that Apple did not had a case..

27. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I would try to respond to your points but they require more depth to deconstruct than I have time to spare.

37. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

its called "we can either spend 100 million a year in lawyer fees across the globe each year since apple will never stop trying to bully, or we can work out a deal for 10-20 million in liscensing fees. we dont feel that we owe them, but its a hell of a lot cheaper than the lawyers"

40. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Finally someone with logic. No matter how you put it, Taco will disagree with you and still act like a brainwashed sheep.

42. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

we would never expect any better out of taco. dont want to get disappointed when he cant live up to the most minimal of life's measurements.

24. poojaroy

Posts: 52; Member since: Apr 29, 2012

i think tim cook f**ks gallitoking"s mom every day thats y he s yapping so much about apple haaa lol and steve jobs died f**king taco"s mom thats they r crying for apple

46. TROLL.ISAHA

Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

That was funny lmao. that's out ov topic and harsh.. U shouldn't bring his mother into this.... Take it easy. Be cool. And chill...

36. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

i just heard that proverbial bitchslap all the way down here in florida. that must a hurt, gallito.. lol. sniggs, hows your hand holding up? lolol

38. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Lol, wasn't even going for a bitchslap. Just was explaining that I was out of time to try to argue with him.

48. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

Is is cool Sniggly u had to call on your buddy whom doesnt answer my emails to bail you out...

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