Apple may have snitched on Verizon and AT&T for the eSIM collusion investigation

Apple may have snitched on Verizon and AT&T for the eSIM collusion investigation
Tucked inside the usual Friday news dump last week, was a story that the Department of Justice is investigating Verizon, AT&T, and the GSMA organization for ganging up on the new eSIM standard. It is a virtual SIM card that is supposed to replace the plastic bits we are swapping now, and be programmable for any carrier you wish, and the Pixel 2 was its torch bearer. The two big US carriers reportedly were unsatisfied with that fact, and wanted to be able to lock phones to their networks to prevent fraud and theft, bypassing the eSIM tech.

At the time, a Verizon spokesman came up with a statement saying that this is no bigger than "a difference of opinion with a couple of phone equipment manufacturers regarding the development of eSIM standards." That claim certainly piqued our interest, and we started wondering which phone makers might that be. Apple, it turns out, is leading the pack.

Apple Watch and iPad both use the eSIM standard, but Apple is rumored to issue a dual-SIM iPhone this year for the first time, and the virtual modules might find their way into its bread-and-butter product very soon, which would explain why it's so adamant against locking efforts from big carriers.
You'd be forgiven not to remember, but back in 2010, European carriers threatened Apple they will cut iPhone subsidies and take the Apple promos off their home pages in a short-lived retaliation, if it goes ahead with its eSIM card plans. The subsidy threat can no longer stay, and the carriers can't stand in front of progress much longer, but we'll see if the move to eSIM will also mean the end of locking phones to the carrier that sells them out of the box. AT&T is adamant a solution will be found:



1. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

A snitch is usually a criminal ratting out another criminal to receive a lighter sentence. Are you trying to suggest something in your title? ;)

4. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3147; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

A snitch is a snitch, doesn't have to be a criminal. You ain't never had your girl's best friend rat you out for seeing you with another broad?

5. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Look at the word usually, what does it imply? And no, haven't had that, since I never cheated. But it's funny reading you reacting to my comment so seriously.

8. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3147; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Never in my 28+ years of marriage have I been unfaithful. But in the years before that? Two or three per night. The 70s and 80s were awesome.

11. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Haha awesome and while I haven't been unfaithful, its not that hard when your longest relationship is 2 years :)


Posts: 2817; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Apple.....snitch, thief, troll, liar.......

3. Metropolis75

Posts: 197; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

Well Mueller had to find SOME form of collusion.

6. Gadgetex

Posts: 199; Member since: Nov 10, 2013

I do not blame Apple. They came up with this ESIM feature for their products and paid to have it in their devices to allow their customers to choose which carrier they want to use it with. They do not want carriers taking advantage of this feature and locking it in for themselves to use only. Apple was right to snitch them out. AT&T and Verizon have long been know to lock devices to their carriers. People that travel abroad want the freedom to use the carrier of their own choice and should have the right to do so on their own device.

7. NarutoKage14

Posts: 1327; Member since: Aug 31, 2016

Being able to lock down the device is why carriers subsidize them in the first place. That's also the reason why unlocked devices exist.

9. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3147; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

As long as the device has an outstanding balance on it, no, you don't have that right. That's why I purchase full price, in cash. I have no credit cards, no car payments and no worries.

10. atlvideoguy

Posts: 74; Member since: Feb 24, 2012

I always buy unlocked phones through Apple Upgrade Program or Samsung Upgrade using their payment plan so that I have the freedom to switch to another carrier anytime I would like.

12. valiymt

Posts: 10; Member since: Dec 23, 2015

Been with Verizon , yes this was not in Verizon best interest to have esim , they were scared the OEM will have more power than carriers if Customers could choose the services at any time

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