TrendForce analysts predict there won't be 4GB of RAM for 2017 iPhone

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Concept image by Martin Hajek


Analyst agency TrendForce argues that increased prices of LPDDR4 RAM is slowing down growth in smartphone RAM this year. The company says "intensifying competition" and "spiking prices" are to blame for a lower than expected increase in the "average memory content" of this year's smartphones (3.2GB rather than 3.7GB), and rising memory prices are going to impact Apple's upcoming iPhones as well.

According to the analysts, if Cupertino wants to maintain its typical annual shipment targets of 200 million units and counting, it will have to settle for 3GB of RAM in the 5.8-inch AMOLED display model and 5.5-inch LCD display model. 2GB will go in the 4.7-inch LCD screen model. Clearly, TrendForce is betting on the "three new iPhones" hypothesis, rather than the "two OLED iPhones" suggestion by somebody at Foxconn.

The analysts also assume that Apple will upgrade the iPhone's RAM to 4GB next year. It already ships 4GB of the stuff with the 12.9-inch iPad Pro, but apparently, it can't scale this configuration to the volume of iPhone shipments - which is much larger than the 13-inch iPad Pro's.

So, no 6GB RAM iPhones anytime soon, eh? Is anyone feeling underwhelmed? Note, we are being just a little bit sarcastic. 3GB ought to be more than enough for an adequate user experience on the new iPhones, and likely good for another year or two after their release.

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source: TrendForce via GSMArena

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1. danny_a2005

Posts: 349; Member since: Oct 06, 2011

no need.

4. Bankz

Posts: 2491; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

As if the iphone even needs more than 2 anyway. The iphone 6s is already faster and probably more efficient than every other non iphone on the market as it were.. Lets not even talk bout the 7plus.

18. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

If it's so efficient, then why does it have terrible battery life for such low specs? How come my 7 Plus barely last a work day when my S8 last 1.8 days? How come after 2 hours of web brows8ng, my iPhone has lost more than 50% of its battery while my S8+ still has more than 60%? Why is it that on a 2.5hr bike ride and in my using GPS, and the display is at its lowest brightness setting and using the front canera wad the battery down to less than 30% when on my S8 i till had more than 55%? Because that is what I got on my recent bike ride. Right after I got my S8...i mounted both to my bike. Both fully charge a d I did a short ride on the lakefront. The bike path is 18 miles from the north side to th3 Southside. I made 3 complete trips and the trip to and from my house which which is about 70 miles total. It's takes literally and hour to ride 20 miles at my pace and my iPhone was nearly dead while my Galaxy still had 40% of its battery. Question...how does the iPhone 7+ with half the specs, half the capabilities in a simple test where both phones are doing rh3 exact same tho g for almost 3 hours, I don't get a similar result? I am not saying the iPhone needs more ram. It doesn't because it doesn't do anything to make use of it. But co soldering it haswas power VS my S8+, I expect I should get better results a d I don't. And tests on every site accept PA shows the iPhone serious lacks the prowess of Android flagship. The iPhone is not better optimized than any other phone. The Galaxy in fact is more optimized because it's doing 10 times as much per click cycle VS an iPhone and yet has better battery life even with better specs. Fact...S7 edge, Note 7 and S8+ all last up to 16 hours playing a full 1r40p video until the battery died. Th2 iPhone 7+ playing a 1080p video does in less than 13. To be fair, I am positive that if you put the iPhone tiny battery in a galaxy, it would eat through it. But look at the power needed. The iPhone doesn't need it and yet it doesn't even last. Your aim has been proven to be nothing but B.S.. Stop repeating it. It's stupid

30. Bankz

Posts: 2491; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

And yet u never pass up any opportunity to own an iphone. Infact, im very confident that you and some others here will be one of the first to own the Iphone Edition. Bloody liar.

41. Leo_MC

Posts: 6623; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Because you're a liar. Even with my 7 I get better battery times than you say you do with 7 plus, so you're either a liar or you have a bug in your iPhone.

48. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"Even with my 7 I get better battery times than you say you do with 7 plus," Really? GSMArena doesn't say so, as the iPhone 7's 61hr rating is a joke, and evrn worse than the Galaxy S4 which had a 1080p display and a much less effecient Snapdragon 600 SoC! Ridiculous.

53. Leo_MC

Posts: 6623; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I don't give a rat's ass about those tests (what's 61hrs?). I only care that the iPhone 7 gets 5-7h of screen time with high usage, 9-10h with the phone connected to wifi and battery saver on when the battery is 20%. That dude is a pathological liar and I have called it as it is.

56. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

I'm not concerned about calling him a liar. I just thought of sharing what a reputable source (much better than PA) has to say. If you do one hour of call, video playback and web browsing per day, then your iPhone 7 will last for 61 hours, meanwhile the Galaxy S8 will last for 88 hours. If you don't give a rats ass about those test, then you should expect anyone else to not give a rats ass about your anecdotal claims of the battery endurance you get from your iPhone 7. A credible source over an Apple fanboy any day.

59. Leo_MC

Posts: 6623; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

As you have explained it, the time on screen one gets from iPhone 7 is 7.625 hours - according to GSM Arena, 7.76 hours - according to Phonearena (the difference is minimal, just do the math yourself before staing that PA test is not reliable). My median usage is 1h short of this data (because I am a power user) and I still see the bulls**t in what has that dude posted.

42. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

Well , I rarely speak good about apple.. Apple usually cheaps out on many components... but The SOC is anything but cheap.. Apple puts all it's money in developing the best custom SOC out there .. and most of the times it ends up beating best SOC from snapdragon easily.. now apple soc is built on slightly older node 16 nm which is more of a performance node.. and Sd 835 is on latest 10nm which is the most efficient node to date succeeding 14nm ( which was already better than 16nm in terms of power ) .. So naturally Sd 835 is very efficient .. Then Super amoled display consumes less power than LCD when displaying blacks and Low brightness .. Samsung does have a QHD display , so when browsing , displaying white full brightness, it uses more power.. it has low backup than 7 plus during browsing... 7s - 13 hours , s8 - 10hours .. check gsmarena while in other cases like talk time , general use - Samsung wins Hence Samsung is more efficient mostly because of SOC and not because of any other special optimization or anything.. A11 will beat Sd835 and Note 8.. and then next year Sd 845 or something will beat A11..

67. Bankz

Posts: 2491; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

The sd 845 will not beat the A11 lol, i even doubt the sd 855 will tbh.

68. Nopers unregistered

Do you work on a work day or just play on your phone? I ended my work day yesterday, 7+ off charge at 7:30AM and still had 46% at 11PM.

8. srgonu

Posts: 508; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

Well said. Limited functionality needs limited resources.

11. diggie32

Posts: 388; Member since: Apr 03, 2016

And bad coding needs more ram

12. diggie32

Posts: 388; Member since: Apr 03, 2016

Need 8gb of ram for Google Spy Services... I mean Play Services

19. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Which is o mg fair and makes sense. Why add more ra. That eats more battery doing nothing. Look how much Galaxy devices too with 4GB of RAM. Pushing literally twice as may pixels, on a larger screen, more services, more apps, more features. Yet they last all longer. But all these excuses talking about costs going up, just gives Apple an excuse to charge more and give you less. Even if they don't raise the price on retail, you still getting less.

70. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

You think so huh? The iphone 7 wins in games because most games use only 1 core and are optimized for iOS but gets owned in App Management. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZLMsz5T1Oc

2. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Now watch every Android fan believe this analyst. Cherry picking at its best!!

3. kiko007

Posts: 7490; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Does it really matter what they believe? Not like iOS needs more than three anyhow.

34. AmashAziz

Posts: 2891; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

iPhones were even good with 1GB of RAM.

52. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Instead of engaging in yet another uneventful fan war, let's hear it for people that has done their research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCFpgknkqRE Does Android use more memory than iOS? – Gary explains I like him as he does praise Apple for its strength on compacting code not in execution while also give Android a fair assessment on gigabytes vs multitasking. As far as memory goes, for android more is more.

61. ShaikhJGI

Posts: 358; Member since: Jan 10, 2014

Oh it has become 3 now. Last year iOS was not demanding more than 2 & now it has become 3..Wowww. Next year when Apple updates to 4 then iOS won't need more than 4 right?? Double standards my at best :)

63. AmashAziz

Posts: 2891; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

iOS doesn't require 3GB RAM. Don't be so stupid. There's something called competition, and another thing called fulfilling consumer desires. That's why the 7 Plus has 3GB of RAM. You really are a Shaikh!

71. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

iOS needs more than 3GB RAM when the iphone uses real multitasking like Android does and not suspended mode where the apps are put into standby and only a screenshot of that app is being loaded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZLMsz5T1Oc

26. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Believe what? They tend to be wrong. But he is pro any right. Prices have been going up, because OEMs are not buying the new tech. The new DDR4 Samsung just made is expensive. The only way price will drop is of they all buy it. If no.ome buys them the price stays high. It doesn't take an analyst to figure that out It's simple economics. Volume drops costs. If Apple bought 220M DDR4 modules, the cost would drop and more would buy causing it to drop faster. You see how fast Dad's went down? You can get 250GB SAD, for nearly the same cost as 250GB of an HDD...if you k la where to look.

31. Bankz

Posts: 2491; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

I see your galaxy s8 keyboard still freezes. Oops!

5. meanestgenius

Posts: 21453; Member since: May 28, 2014

Because of the nature of iOS, along with the software being optimized for the hardware, it currently doesn't need more than 3 gigs of RAM.

6. MEeee

Posts: 397; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

2 years from now with the same comments. iphones dont need 6GB, 4GB is fast enough. All Apple need is just make the dual cam vertical for the 7S and sheeple will line up.

7. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"2 years from now with the same comments. iphones dont need 6GB, 4GB is fast enough." Yep, just like how its been said by the ifanatics before the iPhone 6s, "2GB RAM is not needed, 1GB RAM is enough." They haven't done enough u-turns, yet!

9. kiko007

Posts: 7490; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

"They haven't done enough u-turns, yet!" Learn what a U-turn is. Nobody here said it wouldn't be a welcomed addition, only that it isn't needed at present. And guess what... it's not. The 3gigs in the 7 Plus already destroy every Android device in existence when it comes to memory management.

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