Analyst says that Apple will not use cheaper parts or reduce accuracy for TrueDepth Camera on 2018 models
by Alan Friedman / Oct 29, 2017, 2:27 PM
Apple Insider, Kuo rejected the notion that Apple would lower the specs of the TrueDepth Camera next year by combining glass and plastic lenses. He believes that Apple will stick with the current technology and accuracy of the feature. In addition, Kuo says that Apple now has had enough components delivered from suppliers to cover the iPhone X and future iPhone models. The analyst also reports that Apple will have a diversified supply chain in place before the 2018 phones are assembled. That should prevent shortages from negatively impacting the launch dates for the 2018 models. For example, companies supplying Apple with glass now include Largan, Genius, Hoya, and Asia Optical
Kuo also believes that 3D sensing capabilities for Android will start to become widely available between the second half of 2018 and the first half of 2019. This means Apple has a bit of a window during which its technology can be honed to outperform the technology used by Android manufacturers.
Earlier this past week, Apple denied a report from news wire service Bloomberg that stated the company was forced to settle for components that would provide less accurate results with Face ID. Bloomberg claimed that because of problems producing the TrueDepth Camera, which is used for the facial recognition feature, Apple had to lower its standards in order to make sure that it could produce enough units to meet demand. Again, Apple has denied this report.
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No touch ID No headphone jack Notch on the top Big bezels Thick iPhone 5 = 7.6 mm iPhone 5s = 7.6 mm iPhone 6 = 7.5 mm iPhone 6s = 7.1 mm iPhone 7 = 7.1 mm iPhone 8 = 7.3 mm iPhone X = 7.7 mm
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 2:32 PM 4
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I agree with the other points but nitpicking about the thickness, come on 7.7mm is more than slim enough, slimmer than the S8, Note 8, G6, and the new Pixels. Personally I think it's a good thing the size has increased, iPhones were becoming way to slim imo.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 3:05 PM 7
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Agree with you. Even 8mm thickness is ok for me. It will bring bigger battery, smaller camera hump etc. I'm not Apple user, but must admit that they rule the path for smartphones: all other companies was forgooten about black color till Apple made iPhone 7 black and jet black, all other ditching the headphone jack after Apple etc All big OEM start making slim phones... For what? Are we all women and gays? I need bigger battery, i do not need humongus camera hump.. whatever... Cheers!
posted on Oct 30, 2017, 1:53 AM 1
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For a bezel less phone... the iPhone has a thick bezel around the frame and that notch at the top I got to play with one this weekend and I am amazed at how apple get away with lies Can't wait for iPhonearena review full of propaganda..the iPhone is not bezel less,I've seen it first hand it's got a thick black border all the way around and the phone does feel thicker than 7.7mm and the notch really is distracting..I also got to see the fast charger...it's huge compared to fast chargers for other phones and you have to pay 80pounds extra for it !!!!!!!! Feels like a rushed product for the 10th year anniversary..thick bezels,big notch,quite a thick phone...given all the years they have had to get a bezel less phone this is quite simply not living up to expectations
posted on Oct 30, 2017, 6:51 AM 0
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The 1st thing the techies will do when they recieve the iphone X is try and crack get past the face id. And you can guarantee someone will crack it pretty quick, and be famous for 10 minutes.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 2:47 PM 1
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Assume in one hand and poop in the other and see what fills up more. Which is exactly what your spewing. Crappy assumptions because you want to hate the iPhone so bad. I don’t like the s8 but it’s not a bad phone. It’s a real nice phone. But then again my glass is half full.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 5:34 PM 1
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What? What happens when a new Galaxy or iPhone comes out? 100's of drop tests video, scratch tests video, battery run down video and more. Are you really that dense? He didn't even say anything bad. What he did speak was the truth. Oh wait! 15 posts. Tell-tell sign that you're just a usual troll with a new name!
posted on Oct 30, 2017, 9:38 AM 0
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This Apple insider is basically throwing mud at the wall and see what sticks. I somehow feel like I could be an analyst too, and just get paid for making random predictions.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 4:09 PM 7
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He BELIEVES that Apple will stick with the current technology and accuracy of the feature. I believe the sun will come up tomorrow.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 4:16 PM 0
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unless you have been living under a rock, or you should know KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo is as accurate as it gets for Apple products. He has been right for pretty much every single iphone he predicted in the past, so his world do hold some weight.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 4:34 PM 0
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Those ''analysts'' don't make 'random predictions', they just say what they are paid for. Just like all the other propaganda...to make hype and steer the sheep in 'right direction'.....and milk them.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 4:35 PM 5
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People are sheep because why. I hate the comment section on the phone arena because people always say the dumbest thing no explanation why they’re saying it. From isheep to android fanboy. Nobody has intellectual debates on here is just a bunch of mud slinging BS in if you don’t agree with me or just a sheep or a follower. But I can tell you one thing whatever reason Apple is doing it right they are demanding top dollar for their phones and people are willing to pay. Even with other phone manufacturers having better hardware. Why because it works well and it’s a really well-built phone. There is also such a large amount of stuff that works with it. If Samsung never copped Apple you would never see the competition you see today. Same with android. I like both android and Apple and as of right now I will always by apples phone. Not because I am a blind follower but because I like the phones and they work for me and my household. So I am begging people pleas stop using the general term sheep and fanboy and such and just say your opinion and state why. Please smarten up the forums and comment sections of the internet.......and for heavens sake don’t feed the trolls. Yes I know there are spelling errors and no I don’t care
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 5:49 PM 3
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A well built phone with the highest failure of any single model ever bulit with the iPhone 6 family having a 27% failure rate. Yeah that is a well built phone. It just works? Then why did iOS 9 have 15 updates and its still broke! Why is iOS 11, full of inconsistent UI issues. Examples https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/19
There are lots of videos too. Showing how Apple has the "page" in one app one way, and another app its totally inconsistent with another app.
Android especially on Samsung devices as an example because that is the only ones i used, has gotten leaner and cleaner over the years, while iOS since iOS 7 has gotten sloppier.
So go right ahead with your, everyone who says somethign bad about Apple is a hater speech. I guess all these devs who make applications for iOS, must all be haters considering how much money they have made on iOS?!
Yeah go with that. I think you should stop purposely being a moron. And yeah, having 3 account and liking your own posts is ahead giveaway when you post and each post has 3 likes.
Why not create 10 account so you can log in a like them 10 times over? Why stop at 3?
iPhone 6 family has a 27% failure rate for a single model. In 2016, 62% of the devices Apple sold failed for various reasons. Most were the iPhone 6.
Samsung worse failed device in 2016? The S7 edge at 7%. It took all of Samsung devices combined to get to 40% failure rate and Apple did with with just 2 devices in 2016.
Yeah, it just works, until it doesn't. But you can lie like dog all you want. The internet may be full of lies, but there are still way more truths.
posted on Oct 30, 2017, 9:50 AM 0
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Kuo says that Apple now has had enough components delivered from suppliers to cover the iPhone X and future iPhone models. Kuo is full of crap. Two weeks ago yields were as low as 20 percent, now 14 days later they have enough components for the X and future phones as well. Yeah!, Whatever.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 6:40 PM 2
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Why would they say anything else? Apple does have a history of using cheap parts. IPhone 6 aluminum comes to mind.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 7:41 PM 3
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Well the aluminium wasn't cheap on the 6. It was the same grade many others used. But what was wrong, was the iPhone 6 Plus, was to big for that grade and apple didn't stiffen the metal to make sure it didn't bend. Aluminum is cheap anyways. But you can just takes your finger and thump the iPhone 6 and hear how hollow it sounds. Samsung usually lays magnesium on the inside plate when they make phones. This provides stiffening. You can also mix slightly heavier metals like magnesium allows in the aluminum mixture to help stiffen it. Samsung knew with the S6 design to use 7000 Aluminum. Apple's engineers cutting costs to increase Apple profits is all that matters. I am sure with in=house bend tests, they saw the phone break at 75lbs of pressure. While Plastic phones liek the Note 3 stood up to 150lbs of pressure before snapping,. Apple just didn't care because fools will buy it. Just like with the iPhone 4. The iPhone 6 had the highest failure rate of any single model phone made in recent history. But if this had happened to KG, Samsung especially, Google or HTC; OMG they would have been like flies on crap taking about quality issues. But when its apple, all you hear is crickets. The fact that shipments are 5 weeks and higher delayed is proof they are still having issues. A boat from China takes 4-6 weeks to reach the USA. So unless Apple spends the money to fly the planes with shipments, delays are gonna be high. VZW as an example says arrival are before XMAS now, when just on pre-order day, they said by week 2 of December.
posted on Oct 30, 2017, 9:56 AM 0
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honestly, none of the new phones are worth the price they are selling for. And the specs are a joke. So cheap parts, I agree, won't change how people want a device no matter the price. They will get it for other reasons besides specs. So there is no point in complaining on how cheap the phones are.
posted on Oct 29, 2017, 10:49 PM 0
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I like to make a prediction. There will be no sequel to iPhone X. It was a one off for the 10th anniversary. All these tech will be available in let's say 8s and 8s Plus
posted on Oct 30, 2017, 12:57 AM 0
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