Analyst says that Apple will not use cheaper parts or reduce accuracy for TrueDepth Camera on 2018 models

Analyst says that Apple will not use cheaper parts or reduce accuracy for TrueDepth Camera on 2018 models
The Apple iPhone X hasn't even been launched yet, and already KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo is writing to clients about the 2018 Apple iPhone line up. Earlier this month, Kuo told clients that all 2018 iPhone models will feature a TrueDepth Camera and Face ID. Previously, we heard that next year's handsets will all feature an OLED panel. The goal for Apple next year is to bring some of the technology that was reserved for the iPhone X this year, into the less expensive models for next year. The analyst also sees Apple adding the TrueDepth Camera into the 2018 Apple iPad tablets.

In a research note that was read by Apple Insider, Kuo rejected the notion that Apple would lower the specs of the TrueDepth Camera next year by combining glass and plastic lenses. He believes that Apple will stick with the current technology and accuracy of the feature. In addition, Kuo says that Apple now has had enough components delivered from suppliers to cover the iPhone X and future iPhone models. The analyst also reports that Apple will have a diversified supply chain in place before the 2018 phones are assembled. That should prevent shortages from negatively impacting the launch dates for the 2018 models. For example, companies supplying Apple with glass now include Largan, Genius, Hoya, and Asia Optical

Kuo also believes that 3D sensing capabilities for Android will start to become widely available between the second half of 2018 and the first half of 2019. This means Apple has a bit of a window during which its technology can be honed to outperform the technology used by Android manufacturers.

Earlier this past week, Apple denied a report from news wire service Bloomberg that stated the company was forced to settle for components that would provide less accurate results with Face ID. Bloomberg claimed that because of problems producing the TrueDepth Camera, which is used for the facial recognition feature, Apple had to lower its standards in order to make sure that it could produce enough units to meet demand. Again, Apple has denied this report.

source: AppleInsider

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24 Comments

1. Hollowmost

Posts: 421; Member since: Oct 10, 2017

No touch ID No headphone jack Notch on the top Big bezels Thick iPhone 5 = 7.6 mm iPhone 5s = 7.6 mm iPhone 6 = 7.5 mm iPhone 6s = 7.1 mm iPhone 7 = 7.1 mm iPhone 8 = 7.3 mm iPhone X = 7.7 mm

3. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

I agree with the other points but nitpicking about the thickness, come on 7.7mm is more than slim enough, slimmer than the S8, Note 8, G6, and the new Pixels. Personally I think it's a good thing the size has increased, iPhones were becoming way to slim imo.

16. AVVA1

Posts: 228; Member since: Aug 01, 2017

I agree I remember my iphone 6 bent slightly which is very unpretty sight. I'll take a bit of thickness for rigidity of the phone than a slim phone that can bend or crack easily.

19. yann

Posts: 614; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

Agree with you. Even 8mm thickness is ok for me. It will bring bigger battery, smaller camera hump etc. I'm not Apple user, but must admit that they rule the path for smartphones: all other companies was forgooten about black color till Apple made iPhone 7 black and jet black, all other ditching the headphone jack after Apple etc All big OEM start making slim phones... For what? Are we all women and gays? I need bigger battery, i do not need humongus camera hump.. whatever... Cheers!

21. Darckent

Posts: 91; Member since: Sep 17, 2016

For a bezel less phone... the iPhone has a thick bezel around the frame and that notch at the top I got to play with one this weekend and I am amazed at how apple get away with lies Can't wait for iPhonearena review full of propaganda..the iPhone is not bezel less,I've seen it first hand it's got a thick black border all the way around and the phone does feel thicker than 7.7mm and the notch really is distracting..I also got to see the fast charger...it's huge compared to fast chargers for other phones and you have to pay 80pounds extra for it !!!!!!!! Feels like a rushed product for the 10th year anniversary..thick bezels,big notch,quite a thick phone...given all the years they have had to get a bezel less phone this is quite simply not living up to expectations

2. scarface21173

Posts: 692; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

The 1st thing the techies will do when they recieve the iphone X is try and crack get past the face id. And you can guarantee someone will crack it pretty quick, and be famous for 10 minutes.

4. Zack_2014

Posts: 677; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

The first thing you see from Youtubers are Drop test , Bend test, scratch test and other unnecessary tests. After 2 weeks they will release some first impressions. And then a full review xD

9. androapplephone

Posts: 42; Member since: Oct 04, 2011

Assume in one hand and poop in the other and see what fills up more. Which is exactly what your spewing. Crappy assumptions because you want to hate the iPhone so bad. I don’t like the s8 but it’s not a bad phone. It’s a real nice phone. But then again my glass is half full.

22. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

What? What happens when a new Galaxy or iPhone comes out? 100's of drop tests video, scratch tests video, battery run down video and more. Are you really that dense? He didn't even say anything bad. What he did speak was the truth. Oh wait! 15 posts. Tell-tell sign that you're just a usual troll with a new name!

5. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

This Apple insider is basically throwing mud at the wall and see what sticks. I somehow feel like I could be an analyst too, and just get paid for making random predictions.

6. palmguy

Posts: 982; Member since: Mar 22, 2011

He BELIEVES that Apple will stick with the current technology and accuracy of the feature. I believe the sun will come up tomorrow.

7. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1183; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

unless you have been living under a rock, or you should know KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo is as accurate as it gets for Apple products. He has been right for pretty much every single iphone he predicted in the past, so his world do hold some weight.

12. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Yeah, He predict everything, so he can't get wrong.. And He keep revising his old statement based on newer leak

8. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

Those ''analysts'' don't make 'random predictions', they just say what they are paid for. Just like all the other propaganda...to make hype and steer the sheep in 'right direction'.....and milk them.

10. androapplephone

Posts: 42; Member since: Oct 04, 2011

People are sheep because why. I hate the comment section on the phone arena because people always say the dumbest thing no explanation why they’re saying it. From isheep to android fanboy. Nobody has intellectual debates on here is just a bunch of mud slinging BS in if you don’t agree with me or just a sheep or a follower. But I can tell you one thing whatever reason Apple is doing it right they are demanding top dollar for their phones and people are willing to pay. Even with other phone manufacturers having better hardware. Why because it works well and it’s a really well-built phone. There is also such a large amount of stuff that works with it. If Samsung never copped Apple you would never see the competition you see today. Same with android. I like both android and Apple and as of right now I will always by apples phone. Not because I am a blind follower but because I like the phones and they work for me and my household. So I am begging people pleas stop using the general term sheep and fanboy and such and just say your opinion and state why. Please smarten up the forums and comment sections of the internet.......and for heavens sake don’t feed the trolls. Yes I know there are spelling errors and no I don’t care

20. TerryD

Posts: 546; Member since: May 09, 2017

General rule of thumb. Individuals are intelligent. Groups of people are stupid.

23. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

A well built phone with the highest failure of any single model ever bulit with the iPhone 6 family having a 27% failure rate. Yeah that is a well built phone. It just works? Then why did iOS 9 have 15 updates and its still broke! Why is iOS 11, full of inconsistent UI issues. Examples https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/19/ios-11-design-details-inconsistencies/ http://bgr.com/2017/09/19/ios-11-release-design-ui-inconsistent-backwards/ https://hackernoon.com/dive-into-the-details-of-ios-11-is-apple-still-detail-oriented-fe70af065a7d https://www.limely.co.uk/ios-11s-inconsistent-design There are lots of videos too. Showing how Apple has the "page" in one app one way, and another app its totally inconsistent with another app. Android especially on Samsung devices as an example because that is the only ones i used, has gotten leaner and cleaner over the years, while iOS since iOS 7 has gotten sloppier. So go right ahead with your, everyone who says somethign bad about Apple is a hater speech. I guess all these devs who make applications for iOS, must all be haters considering how much money they have made on iOS?! Yeah go with that. I think you should stop purposely being a moron. And yeah, having 3 account and liking your own posts is ahead giveaway when you post and each post has 3 likes. Why not create 10 account so you can log in a like them 10 times over? Why stop at 3? iPhone 6 family has a 27% failure rate for a single model. In 2016, 62% of the devices Apple sold failed for various reasons. Most were the iPhone 6. Samsung worse failed device in 2016? The S7 edge at 7%. It took all of Samsung devices combined to get to 40% failure rate and Apple did with with just 2 devices in 2016. Yeah, it just works, until it doesn't. But you can lie like dog all you want. The internet may be full of lies, but there are still way more truths.

11. mootu

Posts: 1520; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

Kuo says that Apple now has had enough components delivered from suppliers to cover the iPhone X and future iPhone models. Kuo is full of crap. Two weeks ago yields were as low as 20 percent, now 14 days later they have enough components for the X and future phones as well. Yeah!, Whatever.

13. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Probably Apple think this news will help iPhoneX sales, so Apple order this guy to say that

15. darkkjedii

Posts: 31069; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Why would they say anything else? Apple does have a history of using cheap parts. IPhone 6 aluminum comes to mind.

24. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

Well the aluminium wasn't cheap on the 6. It was the same grade many others used. But what was wrong, was the iPhone 6 Plus, was to big for that grade and apple didn't stiffen the metal to make sure it didn't bend. Aluminum is cheap anyways. But you can just takes your finger and thump the iPhone 6 and hear how hollow it sounds. Samsung usually lays magnesium on the inside plate when they make phones. This provides stiffening. You can also mix slightly heavier metals like magnesium allows in the aluminum mixture to help stiffen it. Samsung knew with the S6 design to use 7000 Aluminum. Apple's engineers cutting costs to increase Apple profits is all that matters. I am sure with in=house bend tests, they saw the phone break at 75lbs of pressure. While Plastic phones liek the Note 3 stood up to 150lbs of pressure before snapping,. Apple just didn't care because fools will buy it. Just like with the iPhone 4. The iPhone 6 had the highest failure rate of any single model phone made in recent history. But if this had happened to KG, Samsung especially, Google or HTC; OMG they would have been like flies on crap taking about quality issues. But when its apple, all you hear is crickets. The fact that shipments are 5 weeks and higher delayed is proof they are still having issues. A boat from China takes 4-6 weeks to reach the USA. So unless Apple spends the money to fly the planes with shipments, delays are gonna be high. VZW as an example says arrival are before XMAS now, when just on pre-order day, they said by week 2 of December.

17. addam012

Posts: 7; Member since: Jun 19, 2015

honestly, none of the new phones are worth the price they are selling for. And the specs are a joke. So cheap parts, I agree, won't change how people want a device no matter the price. They will get it for other reasons besides specs. So there is no point in complaining on how cheap the phones are.

18. miketer

Posts: 520; Member since: Apr 02, 2015

I like to make a prediction. There will be no sequel to iPhone X. It was a one off for the 10th anniversary. All these tech will be available in let's say 8s and 8s Plus

25. uncle_gadget

Posts: 1050; Member since: Sep 20, 2017

There will be. After the dismal sales of the iPhone 8, the iPhone 8S or 9 will have a new design, similar to the iPhone X, but the notch won't be in the display area.

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