ARM unveils DynamIQ for chips with advanced AI and huge CPU core counts
by Luis D. / Mar 21, 2017, 8:13 AM
ARM, the power that is when it comes to mobile CPU core designs (yes, even Apple's distinguished chip designers start with ARM cores), announced DynamIQ – a technology set on accomplishing a 50x performance boost in AI-related calculations over the next three to five years. ARM believes that artificial intelligence will grow central to mobile computing through the development of smart assistants, autonomous vehicles, and other thinking-as-number-crunching products.
On the metal and silicon level, DynamIQ enables new possibilities for clustering multiple CPU cores together. Whereas quad and octa-core chips are usually arranged in clusters of two or four cores, respectively, DynamIQ enables liberal configurations like 1+3 or 1+7 cores. A single cluster can contain up to 8 cores, so 16-core CPUs are perfectly possible with this architecture.
ARM envisions DynamIQ chips inside all kinds of connected devices, including cars and smartphones.
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No offence Luis, but you are misunderstanding what they mean in terms of clusters Currently, with big.LITTLE as seen in the 960 for example We have a cluster with 4x A73 cores and another cluster with A53s cores These 2 clusters are connected with the ARM CCI-550 Interconnect (like how AMD Zen has 2 clusters of 4 cores connected with their Infinity Fabric interconnect) Communication between clusters is much slower than within a cluster as it has to use the interconnect (and that's why AMD Zen are having issues with some games) DynamIQ will allow 1 clusters with 4x A73 and 4x A53 cores, without needing an interconnect them together. Which should improve efficiency, performance and reduce latency
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 8:51 AM 6
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ARM is really going in some neat directions lately. Just for kicks, I would love to see what they could do in the PC x86 race.
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 9:09 AM 1
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They would fail as did AMD. AMD can't compete with the old Intel Inside campaign. Intel is old, been around longer and with Windows penetration in the market, ARM would fail. Windows bases it whole architecture around the Intel chipsets. Unless ARM can pull in a major dev to use the chip in its PC, they wouldn't stand a chance. See how bad AMD is doing? ARM would do even worse.
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 9:37 AM 0
AMD didn't fail due to intel inside campaign, they failed due to their garbage bulldozer architecture, with shared FPUs. Iterating it with excavador and piledriver didn't solve issues either. They were so deep that their share price plummeted and market share went to crap. They are coming back strong with ryzen though.
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 9:42 AM 8
Yup... Ryzen is great for the industry right now and was much needed, Naples later this year will be great for the server industry, and Vega this year hopefully should easily beat the GTX 1080, maybe big Vega can potentially match 1080 TI or maybe.. beat it, we will see but AMD is definitely now back for the moment I'm kicking myself so hard for not buying stock when it was around $4.50 last summer
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 10:17 AM 5
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right... even if it's still bugged/freezed now and then, they keep fixing it.. and hopefully raven ridge could end intel monopoly in HTPC, AIO, 2in1, convertible, notebook, and ultrabook (probably they'll name it something different, ultrabook is intel's trademark)
posted on Mar 23, 2017, 3:01 AM 0
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What the hell are you talking about. The face of the PC has been changing for years. The new PC is the smartphone. Especially when the vast majority of the world turns to their smartphones as their primary computing device. Look with 1.5 billion ARM based smartphones sold last year alone. With Intel not even seeing 1% of that market. Yet PCs, 2 in one's, and laptops combined sold 260 million. That speaks volumes. Now when it comes to IoT and SBCs, ARM owns that segment. As far as servers are concerned ARM is moving on in, especially when it comes to cost and power efficiency. Which ARM has Intel beat. This going to continue to grow. Now with up and coming and growing VR/AR/MR segment ARM is growing in that area by leaps and bounds. Even Microsoft themselves are coming out with both hardware and software that is using Qualcomms SD 835, which can support and drive a 4k display, at a sustainable 60 fps, at the same time drive and support 4 cameras. Sure I know Intel is working with their project alloy. Which is along the same lines as Qualcomms solution. So if Microsoft's Windows whole architecture is based around Intel's chip sets, then why is Microsoft investing into a VR/AR/MR solution using Qualcomms ARM solutions? Hmmm. Love to here your answer on that one. Since your so techie.
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 12:53 PM 1
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Is it even fair to compare Smartphone sales with that of PCs of any kind. One is replaced annually or biannually where as the other is usually kept for the long haul. It's like comparing car sales to house sales.
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 2:21 PM 1
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AMD and ARM are nowhere near the same financial situation. ARM has a lot better resources for design and implementation. Every mobile device on the planet runs an ARM processor. Phones, tablets, watches... samsung, apple, huwai... all ARM based designs. Think about how much they have in royalties for a moment. Considering Intel tried jump in ARM's territory and failed so hard they quietly ran away with their tail between their legs when no one was looking. ARM could do great things in the space. They specialize in fantastic power to watt ratios that are above intel in many respects. AMD, I love to root for them, but they have to cut corners to compete. ARM would not have to do any such thing.
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 2:29 PM 0
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Apple does not start with an ARM core, it starts with the ARM architecture, their core is significantly different from any ARM cortex core, the only similarities is both use the same instruction sets. People are messing up the difference between ARM architecture and ARM cortex CPU cores. ARM is just an instruction set architecture like x86, but the cortex are the microarchitecture of the actual CPU, like Intel's different GEN processors.
posted on Mar 21, 2017, 11:55 PM 0
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