50,000 T-Mobile users have upgraded from a BlackBerry to a new smartphone (likely a Samsung) since April

50,000 T-Mobile users have upgraded from a BlackBerry to a new smartphone (likely a Samsung) since April
As you may have heard, T-Mobile ended its relationship with BlackBerry in late April, so the carrier is no longer selling BlackBerry smartphones. April was also the month when T-Mobile started offering $200 to its BlackBerry customers to upgrade to a new Samsung phone, or $100 if they wanted to switch to handsets made by other companies.

According to an internal memo obtained by TmoNews, T-Mobile managed to lure more than 50,000 ex-BlackBerry users into upgrading to a new device since April. We assume that most of those customers got themselves a new Samsung smartphone, because the deal is sweeter in this case. The deal will be available until the end of the year, though there probably aren’t many BlackBerry users left at T-Mobile anyway.

BlackBerry now holds less than 1% of the US smartphone market, while Android and iOS are the dominant platforms (and Windows Phone holds a distant third place). But maybe the upcoming BlackBerry Passport, which is expected to be released in September, will mean a new beginning for the company? We’ll just have to wait and see.

source: TmoNews



1. shamatuu

Posts: 159; Member since: Nov 02, 2011

Blackberry is so dead. There's no way they can compete especially we are are near the holiday season.

5. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

Trolls like you have been claiming BlackBerry is dead for YEARS, and they're still here. By the way, judging from BlackBerry's latest ER, sales of the Z3, the enormous amount of interest in the BlackBerry Passport from the media and consumers, as well as acquisitions like Secusmart and investments in healthcare(Nanthealth), I'd say BlackBerry is more than able to compete.

9. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

Just take a look at BB's market share then come back here to justify your reasoning. BB is on a freaking life support!

13. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

I did look at their market share...in ENTERPRISE. Trolls like you think that the consumer market is all their is to mobile, and it most certainly is not. If that were the case, Apple and Google wouldn't be diving head first into enterprise. Come back with FACTS to justify your BS.

28. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

I love how you twist the facts here, since when does an ENTERPRISE share significant to propel a company's earnings? Stop living like were still in 2002, Others have moved on, How about you? CONSUMER market is where its at, fanboy-slash-employee

39. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

I love how your ignorance shows. You do realize that they are THRIVING companies out there that ONLY focus on ENTERPRISE, right? Stop trying to tell me what to do, I choose BlackBerry. You don't like it? SO WHAT. Also, if the CONSUMER market is where it's at, why are smartphone vendors making such a HUGE push in enterprise now? Food for thought, loser troll-slash-paid troll.

33. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

41. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

....and that has exactly what bearing on this conversation? Have you not been paying attention? BlackBerry's main focus is ENTERPRISE. They are the KING there. Get a life, troll.

47. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

The topic is all about SUBSCRIBERS (aka the common consumer), not ENTERPRISE you are the one who's been straying here Who's the troll now?

48. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

The topic that I've had to bring up to put you "gloom and doom", living in the past, paid trolls is ENTERPRISE. It's to show you that BlackBerry is NOT DEAD or even dying. You're the troll that STILL has not offered a compelling, significant argument outside of "BlackBerry is on life support". That's OLD NEWS. Their latest ER says otherwise. So who is the troll now? YOU.

49. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

You just don't give up do you :-) Defending valiantly, like there's no tomorrow lol But your LOGIC and reasoning simply doesn't reflect the current state of BlackBerry right now. may I ask, Do you have a Plan B in case Blackberry decides to lay you off?

54. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

You don't seem to give up, either. They must pay you well for trolling! If all else fails, perhaps I will get a job trolling with you! (You'll note the sarcasm). You bash BlackBerry with all the vigor of a frightened warrior about to meet his demise at an angry horde. You clearly do not anything about BlackBerry's "current state" in enterprise. All you know is the consumer market, and that's only from PA. I pity you.

51. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2485; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I think it's worth pointing out that according to the CIO Blackberry has the same market share as Nokia (both at 2%). I think both companies are still in a good position to grow based on future products and what they are going to offer software wise this fall.

52. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

"Trolls like you have been claiming BlackBerry is dead for YEARS, and they're still here." Still here, but minus 50,000 customers (and counting) as of today. Blackberry is pretty much dead in the consumer world, having less than half the market share of Symbian (which actually is a dead OS as of last year), and they're bound to see the same fate in enterprise now that Apple and IBM have teamed up to take them on.

55. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

If you believe that those were all BlackBerry users, then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. I'll give you a really good price! Your statement about Apple and IBM renaming up is laughable at best. What do you think that those two TOGETHER could do what they simply COULD NOT DO separately? Making APPS that PRETEND to be ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS is NOT going to win them many clients over BlackBerry. NO COMPANY worth their weight in gold will risk or compromise the security of an ENTIRE COMPANY for an APP.

56. ablopez

Posts: 235; Member since: Apr 15, 2014

WTH??? Wahoo leaves and then immediately gets replaced by all these guys??? I guess the trolling is never going to end. Good job with presenting the facts, MG! I can appreciate a difference of opinion, but when their opinions appear to show a lack of respect, then that's when the line is crossed. I respect iOS, Android and WP (considering I own other products with those OS's), so why can't they respect BlackBerry and what they've accomplished under John Chen?

57. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

Thanks, ablopez. It's like WackyWahoo called in the troll reinforcements around here! When it comes to trolling, it seems like it never will end here on PA. Even when you try and educate them and present facts, they dismiss it at BS. I also respect the other OS's and an individual's choice to use whatever they wish, but it seems like those that like the other OS's just can't seem to grasp that same concept when it comes to BlackBerry users. I just don't understand that. I use Microsoft products (dell venue 8 Pro tablet, Lumia 925), as well as Amazon products (Amazon Kindle Fire HDX, forked Android). I don't like iOS products at all, but you NEVER see me go to ANY iOS article and bash Apple/iOS users.

2. Liveitup

Posts: 1798; Member since: Jan 07, 2014

We need more competition, not less.

6. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

Indeed we do.

3. gigaraga

Posts: 1454; Member since: Mar 29, 2013

Blackberry is too old to make a comeback. And HA Wp still a distant third...thats to be expected

8. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

Saying BlackBerry is too old to make a comeback is like saying Android is too "young" or "immature" of an OS to be leading the mobile consumer market. Sounds silly, right? Yeah, so do you with that statement.

4. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

Another "bait" article from PA. Go figure.... Anyway, one thing that the article got wrong is: "As you may have heard, T-Mobile ended its relationship with BlackBerry in late April, so the carrier is no longer selling BlackBerry smartphones." This statement is completely FALSE. BlackBerry was the one that ended the relationship. You guys here at PA even posted an article saying so when it happened. BlackBerry not being on T-Mobile is no huge blow to BlackBerry as T-Mobile never had a large enough footprint where BlackBerry was concerned anyway. Also, the way this article is coming off, it's assuming that all of these upgrades were from T-Mobile customers using BlackBerry smartphones. It's my understanding that those that "upgraded" could have used a BlackBerry from ANY carrier, even older models. They also could have brought in BlackBerry's which were no longer in use by them on any network. That being the case, it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY that ALL 50,000 "upgrades" came from T-Mobile customers still using BlackBerry's on the network. Way to swing a bait article, PA.

7. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

That doesn't change the fact that BlackBerry is dying (or has been dead for awhile now) and their resources are depleting rapidly. False story or not, who gives a crap, it doesn't matter lol

11. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

It does matter, troll. Its inaccurate stories like this that help perpetuate a lie. If BlackBerry were dying, then why have the been able to turn a small profit, as stated by their latest ER? Why are we now seeing reports, even here on PA, that says BlackBerry's restructuring and cuts are over, and their looking to begin hiring again? "Resources depleting rapidly"--with 3.1 billion in the bank and no debt? I don't think so. Show proof with links of these so called "rapidly depleting resources". Dying companies don't make investments like the one BlackBerry did concerning Nanthealth or acquisitions like they did with Secusmart. Dying companies don't command over 60% of ANY market, let alone the enterprise market. Dying companies don't gain over 1.2 MILLION new licences concerning BES10, of which 10% of that came from competing vendors. Seems like you're just full of misinformation and trolling to me.

22. Doakie

Posts: 2478; Member since: May 06, 2009

People aren't trolls just because they disagree with you. Sure BlackBerry has some cash reserves but they've also had to sell off then lease back their properties in order to lace their pockets. They're not too old to die; they're too far behind to catch up again, especially in ecosystem build out. App developers already have iOS and Android to focus on, if they're feeling adventurous they can develop for Windows Phone because it's more popular with consumers by about 6 times(RIGHT NOW). And what apps do businesses buy in bulk from the BlackBerry app store that is keeping developers fed? I've not heard of a booming app ecosystem on the BlackBerry side... So you're telling me a stagnant ecosystem is going to lead to booming adoption or consistent flat lined sales numbers? I think not. As for their main competition, you know Microsoft isn't going anywhere; they're a software and services company and have 84 billion in the bank in reserves. They'll outpace BlackBerry in a long race to third place. They need to stay somewhat up to date on a software side or their company is dead and they're going to burn through their cash reserves to stay relevant, BlackBerry doesn't have that luxury. What companies have moved onto BlackBerry 10 phones instead of upgrading to iPhones? I've never seen one nor heard of one. Most likely the 60% you're speaking of are old fleets that haven't been retired yet... They're not dying but they are definitely still in a controlled decent. All the while iOS and Android are focusing in on that enterprise market that they cling to for dear life. But we haven't even mentioned the rate that BYOD is moving into the enterprise. But I'm sure you'll dismiss that as well. You blame everyone that they're just trolling, have you ever slowed down enough to think you might be so hopeful and fanatical that you have blinders on? Such behavior might label you a fanboy if you're not careful.

29. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

He's the one that's trolling Spreading lies about the current state of the company he works for in order to lure buyers.

32. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

You sound ridiculous with this statement right here. Why don't you do some research OUTSIDE of PA before commenting, hmm?

31. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

People are trolls that come on to any said article and claim "gloom and doom" without any proof to back it up other than "I don't like BlackBerry", or "look at their market share", without even beginning to understand that the consumer market is not the be all, end all in mobile. A difference of opinion is fine, but to just come on and say "BlackBerry is doomed", or "it doesn't matter if the article written about BlackBerry is false", is just plain trolling. When you speak of things like "stagnant ecosystem", you are CLEARLY not referring to the enterprise market. BlackBerry is thriving there. Have you seen any reports of BlackBerry sales in enterprise? Probably not. I have, and I do my research. You keep on referring to BlackBerry as if they are only playing in the consumer market. That is where their focused on the LEAST. Enterprise is and always will be BlackBerry's bread and butter, hence their focus THERE. If people like you would stop and think for a minute and not just assume everything is about the consumer market, you would see this. BlackBerry's adoption rate has ALWAYS BEEN highest in enterprise. You think that's going to change anytime soon, if at all? I think not. Microsoft will only continue to be heavily adopted in enterprise via Windows Pro, not Windows Phone. While Windows Phone will no doubt gain SOME traction in mobile enterprise, it will not be enough to adversely affect BlackBerry's dominance there. BlackBerry is, after all, larger than their next 3 competitors COMBINED in enterprise. Being a smaller company affords BlackBerry the luxury of being more nimble than a larger competitor. They can turn on a dime now, if need be. Microsoft cannot, due to, if anything, it's size. You truly do not know what you speak of if you say BlackBerry is in a "controlled decent" in enterprise. They just gained 1.2 million new licences for BES10. That's descending? I don't think so. You and others like you still think BlackBerry needs HANDSETS to survive and be profitable. THEY DO NOT. ESPECIALLY since they are transforming into a software and services company that is much less reliant on handsets. Apple and Google need enormous handset sales to help further their agendas and goals. BlackBerry does not. BYOD is slowly becoming a dying market, my friend. Especially as companies reevaluate the hassle that they have been having with employee-owned handsets, i.e.-battery drainage due to MDM, IT execs having access to an employee's PERSONAL info on the handset, etc. However, BYOD is also a plus for BlackBerry while it's still around due many companies turning to BlackBerry to manage those devices through their MDM and EMM solutions. iOS and Android have yet to make even the smallest dent in BlackBerry's market share in enterprise. There is a reason why ten out of the the top ten largest businesses in the world in law, gas and oil, and healthcare and security, are all BlackBerry's customers.

34. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

Why do you keep hurling-in ''ENTERPRISE'' into the discussion? Why? Do people give a flying FK about enterprise?

36. meanestgenius

Posts: 22467; Member since: May 28, 2014

I do so because it's PART OF THE DISCUSSION. I do so to show blind hater trolls like yourself where BlackBerry's TRUE focus is, and where they are STRONGEST at, currently STRONGER in mobile enterprise than ANYONE. You have a problem with that? Not that I care...

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