Samsung signs mega deals to supply DDR4 RAM for the iPhone 6S and the LG G4
19. SuperNova (banned) (Posts: 649; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
Apple should bow to Samsung. And also for Apple fanboys, you may give Samsung respect, how hard work to bring the advanced tech into your piece of iphone, and ipad and stop responding aggressively toward the king of tech called Samsung. Thanks
29. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
Explain why everyone loves iPhone in Korea? Lol
40. SuperNova (banned) (Posts: 649; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
Explain why everyone loves Galaxy in the US? Lol
64. Supraman21 (Posts: 323; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)
Not everyone loves samsung. Its basically all marketing. Just look it all the reivews for their phones. They are decent but thats it, they just get a crap load of marketing.
52. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
What does Korea have to do with it?
33. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
king tech called Samsung? who's best mobile revenue is working for Apple manufacturing Apple designed processors....
55. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
I guess money is everything? How do u like paying $749 for 2 year old tech, while we pay less for better. IPhone 6 Plus ugly and big only 1080p at 849. Note 4 1440p $699.
You look stupid bragging about how Apple is raping you for more money and giving you nothing.
69. ph00ny (Posts: 1234; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Mobile division doesn't run their semi-conductor business
34. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
Apple is the most profitable phone company in the world. Samesung make the parts (some), Apple rakes in the money.
Kings don't bow to slaves. Lol
41. SuperNova (banned) (Posts: 649; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
Slaves? You're the biggest slave of Apple, but in upper-classed. See how miserably Apple employees work in Foxconn factories, with under-paid wage. Apple gets money, and you get overpriced toy. LOL
48. max9777 (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)
For one, they are not Apple employees. Foxconn is a sub-contract company that builds the phones for Apple. Hence, why every few years Foxconn and several other companies go at it, to show apple why they should have a contract to manufacture Apple phones..
How do you know Apple employee's are miserable? Even as sub-contractors they make terrible wages, but they have jobs. It is not Apple's fault that China does not enforce better labor standards for their citizens. Yet you want to blame Apple for that?
Your earlier comment stated for Fanboys not to get aggressive towards (King of Tech?) But what are you doing.. You are getting b*tth*rt at someone else's comment about Apple being #1?
Samsung is a great company that make's amazing products. But Apple's line up only consist of like 25 Apple made products so Apple is becoming more and more successful because they can spend more resources and concentration on fewer items. When Samsung has over 1000+ various products from cell phones to chipset to home products.
So stop with the bickering and just accept that, all the cell phone manufacturers are making great products and because of the competition, every year we see better and better technology in our cell phones.
67. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)
Apple does not spend more resources on their products.
Apple is a very stingy company and spends as little as possible on their products.
Their screen is second rate compared to Samsung phones, their current A8 processors are about as strong as a 2-year-old Galaxy Note 3's SD/Exynos processors, all the other innards are technology from Samsung, and they use cheap aluminum crap on the outside.
It doesn't take much in R&D to create a phone using someone else's technology.
The bulk of the money that they have goes to buy technology from South Korean companies, which creates high-paying jobs in South Korea. Apple barely invests in the US.
76. max9777 (Posts: 78; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)
I do not disagree with you, but again I have both Note 3 and iPhone 6+. To be frank, I prefer the iPhone on a daily usage. Apps crash less plus there is no overwhelming amount of bloatware. The phone works great, does what I need. Only complaint I have is Finger scanner does not respond well when your hands are cold, and due to low ram when I read news on the way to work if I open more than 3-4 tabs it refreshes the links every time I switch them. Other than that phone does not lag, apps do not freeze and I do not overload my phones with lots of apps I make sure to close what I am not using. So even if they use cheap equipment to make it, who cares? The phone is reliable on a daily usage. I assume that is why many people prefer the phone over other phones and OS's. But I would never bash another company because I think their phones suck?
If you noticed many companies use, oh we crammed 3gb of ram here 2.4ghz quad core processor there. if that is their marketing scheme? they will not get far because all the crap these companies fill the phones with.
I have played with my friends stock android nexus 6 and I found the phone amazing. But again I am already more accustomed to the IPhone now, and I would not want to switch unless they screw up in terms of software.
As soon as I can get rid of the Note 3 it is gone.
But people should really stop this whole biased bulls**t about who the better company is. If the phone you have makes you happy, then shut up and be happy LOL.
I still give Props to all the companies for making competition great and especially for BlackBerry digging themselves out of the Grave. Plus I cannot wait to see what Microsoft entails with Windows 10 for PC, Tablets and phones.
All of us who own smartphones should be happy we can allow ourselves the luxury of owning one. Some people around the world have other stuff to worry about than bickering about whose phone is better mine or yours.
66. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)
But that money doesn't get invested in the US, which is the problem.
More than likely, part of Apple's profits will go to Samsung, LG and other Korean companies to buy the latest LCD, memory, etc technology, giving South Koreans more high-paying jobs.
The only thing Apple has done for the US is create an army of low-pay $12/hr customer support jobs.
73. zachki17 (Posts: 261; Member since: 14 Sep 2014)
LG is a display makerr .. Apple buy LCD panel and P_Oled panel from LG ...
35. techspace (Posts: 1036; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
You don't need to bow to anyone unless they are giving something to you for free...Samsung is not doing apple a favor.
Samsung and Apple don't care about the fanboys in tech sites...it doesn't matter whether you love them or hate them so long as you keep buying the products made by them.
Both of them get enough respect from their customers.
43. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
Hey shill, you should head over to this new article. Lol
It's on the front page. Lol
51. nctx77 (Posts: 1961; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
It's not about tech, it's about supply and demand. Samsung is the only company that can get us the chips we need in a timely matter. You know...because the iPhone sells so much....
61. willard12 (Posts: 1677; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
"We"? So, you are an executive at Apple, now?
68. Marienx (Posts: 63; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
OMG!!! It all has to do with marketing.. Beats headphones are not the best, but they market the hell out those headphones and give the consumer average sound.. they suck (better alternative - Audio-Technica) Apple is the same way as beats, except that with apple it was more convenient to stick to their phone since you already invested so much money on itunes with the ipod and there is no other iOS option out there other than apple (better alternative without iOS - HTC). Mercedes-Benz, well design cars but complains for that car when you owned it goes off to the ruff (better alternative - Lexus). Rolex, over price time piece (better alternative - Tag Heuer, Hublot, Longines). Ferrari, well they are and amazing car brand, but when you have money and don't know about cars you end up with this brand as is the most popular brand, if you know you cars and buy a Ferrari is not bad at all (better alternative - Pagani, Mclaren) Well, this is my point.. The crappiest product can sell millions if it is well advertised/marketed and doesn't mean for one bit that because it sells millions it is the best product in it's category out there.
2. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Cant say SUCCESS without 6S (wanted to say that for a long time)
I like when Apple and Samsung and other companies work together more than when they fight...
4. AndroidLollipop (unregistered)
because Apple cannot make one for their own handset
5. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
I dont think that's the case - I think that Apple has all the money to build their own manufacturing plants - they just dont care to. Samsung seems to fulfill the requirement - why bother...
I'm a contractor - and I can fix, install, and build anything by my self (with hired hand to help with heavy stuff), but it makes on sense for me to waste my time on one project doing it myself, when I can sub-contract it out and cover 2 projects or 3 in the same amount of time. I still prefer to do electrical and detail work - just because 1. I enjoy it, 2. I'm better at it. But the rest is all done by "Subs" and I just manage and supervise it.... Samsung is that Sub-contractor that Apple Hires so it can do more important things... (and we both know that Samsung loves it)...
9. tech2 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
LOL....don't apply your scenario to Apple's as that is a complete different scenario.
You are doing 1. what you like and 2. you are dedicating your limited to a work which earns better income for you.
These conditions don't apply to a company as much as it applies to an individual. A company isn't bound by time or preference. It can just buy that. With the amount of money that's lying in Apple's account they should definitely invest considering the long term prospect rather then coming up with an arrogant reply such as 'why bother'.
24. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
I don't think Apple has interest in investing in anything if it doesn't make good profits for them. Whatever Apple is doing now, they're certainly doing very well, for profits of course.
27. SuperNova (banned) (Posts: 649; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
Don't act like a pro analyst, LOL. Didn't your goal is to troll in Samsung articles. LoL
31. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
I'm not an Apple fan nor anyone fan. I'm just using facts and common sense to shame you Samesung troll. Now go ahead and keep making fools out of yourself. Lol
32. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Well, we all know how to invest someone else's money better than they do themselves, right? But, you're wrong, it's pretty much exactly the same thing... I can also hire and train my own employees to do what subcontractors do - but I dont want to do that because 1. it will require more of my attention, which I dont want to commit to, and 2. still going to keep me on one project instead of 2 or 3 at the same time...
Hiring contractors releaves the need to constantly watch them as they have their own licenses and insurance, training my own employees means my own license and my own insurance on the line and the benefit? None really Subs or Own employees - still making just as much money within the time period. For Apple there are costs of running own factory, cover employees health and insurance benefits, pay them salary/wages, deal with equipment maintenance, failures, and mother nature (earthquakes/power outages)... and then theres "everyone's a bit trigger-happy to sue Apple billions" mentality.. Apple's factory would be the front for layers and their sue-happy clients...
Trust me - I thought this thru...
49. tech2 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Good for you if its working for you but YOU JUST CANT APPLY YOUR SITUATION TO A COMPANY'S !
The companies upper management would be fired if a decision of not to expand was taken based on possibility of an earthquake ! The shareholders would literally eat them alive!!
When an evaluation for such a decision is done ALL the expenses and beyond are considered from setting up to making it run and ONLY if its not financially viable they'll decide against it. Several technical financial calculations are considered such as NPV, EVM, ROI and RI. There is no place of 'why bother' or 'focus on what is important' in a COMPANY as it is for an individual. Because for an individual several personal elements are also there like giving time to your family, etc but such doesn't apply to a public listed company.
Trust me, I am a Financial Analyst/Management Accountant for a construction company myself.
72. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
1. Speaking in a general sense.
2. U just proven my point - a lot goes into to even consider building a plant - and I bet Apple considered that and constantly considering it. And up to now still desided not to. I don't think its because they cannot - just not viable option still - otherwise they'd build it.
3. It's not like they're building a multibillion "spaceship" campus at the moment or anything... Oh wait.
4. Once again we agre with eachother - you just seem to have more technical sense and I have general sense.
70. ph00ny (Posts: 1234; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Not entirely true. Foundry business isn't just going out and building a plant. Lot of R&D is required. Unless Apple goes out and buys one of the major foundries, i highly doubt they can make their own components overnight
6. hellbread (Posts: 309; Member since: 21 Nov 2014)
This is interesting.
When Apple make money, Samsung make money from ram. When Samsung make money, Sony make money from cameras.
And in future, if Apple start making screens it will make money from, lets say, Htc...
And we think they all are in war, when at the end it is all one big money sucking machine.
13. MrET1 (Posts: 110; Member since: 29 Jan 2015)
I still think this whole Apple-Samsung patent fight is only to give both media attention. Neither party gets a device made by the other banned , and if happens it happens 2 years after release when the device is already discontinued. While in the meantime both Apple and Samsung get great attention from the media by sueing eachother.
If they really were enemies then they wouldn't work together like this.
7. Cicero (Posts: 870; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)
Until all subcontractors are full or do not are happy with your payments. Than you have to dirt your hands. Same here with Apple and Samsung. When Sammy will be full it can raise the price or refuse to complete Apple order. It is a free and competitive market at the end.
8. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
I assume this was replying to me... Yes, in which case I'll have to raise my prices to customers (ie iPhone buyers), or take the loss to keep my customers, or hire someone cheaper and hope he does a decent job.... There's really no argument there... so far I dont think anyone can outbid Apple, not even Samsung themselves.... doesnt samsung use someone else's SoC than their own on their mobile devices?
12. xondk (Posts: 1392; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Well all things considering if the information is true, then apple has raised the price slowly but steadily, but the price they actually pay for getting the product made has stayed the same (or even fallen, depending on which sites are true) so yeah.... I cannot understand how people accept this.
In so many other products people would be outraged about price margins being so high as they are for apple, yet.....yeah.
16. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
I think it's more of what they get out of the device then what manufacturer has put into it.... does that make sense?
For the one hundredths thousandths quadrillionths time: Apple consumers dont pay for the sum of parts like Android people like you apparently do, Apple consumers pay for the ecosystem, experience, and many things that Apple does right and Android does wrong. Please find my posts in the past, you replied to my posts like this one before - I know you read them before... I dont want to explain this again...
Some products are better than the sum of parts inside them, and some products are just that - the sum of parts inside them. To different people value is a different thing. Enjoy your "sum of parts", and I'll enjoy my experience...
74. xondk (Posts: 1392; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
I've read your posts just fine, I just do not agree with this whole 'ecosystem' thing.
To me it makes absolutely no sense, android/windows devices are part of an 'eco' system too, its called computer standards?
You want to play an mp3 file you got? plug in drive, drag drop, play?
It is possible because they follow standards, and as such can openly communicate with anyone else that follow these standards.
That people should be paying more to be part of the apple ecosystem, which at least in my experience makes things more complicated then they need to be, makes no sense to me. Yes sure if you get used to that ecosystem and what actions you need to go about to do stuff in it, it may "just work"
But windows/android/linux whathave you "just works" and it "just works together"
It is fine if you believe it is fair to pay for that ecosystem, but I do not agree with that, and I cannot wrap my head around people finding it ok to pay more when you get objectively less then what the others can do.
75. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Thanks, great post. Trust me if love to pay less for iDevices, and I bet you'd love today less for yours, but as an enthusiasts we want the best of what tech has to offer and flagship android phones that run as good as new iPhones cost just as much or even more sometimes. I always try an android device before I get a new iPhone and I find it lacking so much, but the opposite - add so much unnecessary/unwanted stuff. There are steps to delete an app, there are steps to secure your phone, there are steps to protect your phone. There ar steps u take to insure your battery doesn't deplete 10-20% while not in use. There's bloat and good features hidden among useless-bad features. But if I get a non bloated device like nexus - bad camera or bad battery, if I get good battery phone - there's bloat - it's a trade off. And I still endup pattern tracing to unlock the phone, and relying on some third party apps to track my family/friends that don't work all the time. And I still end up with no common app for my media on PC like iTunes. Drag and drop maybe great for some, but my music is organized extremely well with iTunes - the only software that was there before my first Apple device and still there today - drag and drop crests a mess and requires you to plug in your phone with a USB. iTunes does not! I like the way iCloud works vs Google drive or w/e. How I can shoot a video with my iPhone and have my friend edit it on thwbipad as I'm shooting a new one in real time. FaceTime is unmatched. People don't understand that just because Apple doesn't do something the old way - it does not mean there's no better solution - Apple just tried to do thing different - reinvent the wheel - and at some things it's brilliant at others it's just different - but it's up to us to choose and who are you to tell hundreds of millions of returning buyers that their experience is bad because they don't have 8-cores?
One of the things I found out the reason why my photos loaded so DAMN slow on my new Samsung S4 vs instantly quick on my 4 year old iPhone 3gs is because I stored them on an external SD card - no option for a built in 64gb android - Apple has built in versions up to 128gb = lighting fast depository and it only costs about $30 to $80 more (depending on go amount) than the slower options that EXTERNAL SD offers for android phones, because you still end up buying the best SD card on top of the phone purchase. Or end up loosing your photos like I've seen first hand from a friend and there are stories all over the Internet just like that. So iphone is a better choice for millions than android by a mile, not because it's necessarily simple - but because it makes those tasks that you do 50 times a day just so much easier and faster.
77. xondk (Posts: 1392; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
I am not sure exactly what to say. So I will comment on some of the things you mention.
'common app' - I'm guessing for file handling? windows explorer or whatever file handling program your preferred os uses, can all be used with android and also windows phones I believe.
Steps - I do not understand this, yes there are 'steps', drag and drop, to delete an app, so you don't do it accidentally? to secure phone? hit power button? battery? don't run a ton of background apps? not even touchwiz has had battery issues amongst android phones last I checked?
structured music (itunes) - Ok, have you ever opened your phone up with a file explorer or other non itune software? (and I know your answer is likely 'why should i?') but if you have you will see that while itunes may look structured on the surface, it is not on storage device itself, it is for the most parts difficult for a human to make any sense of it.
On android and windows, you can just pull an entire folder with your music onto the phone, and they will know that folder and sort the music accordingly, so there the structure fully there both on hardware and software, not just software as with itunes.
also drag and drop does not require usb, can be done via many methods including wifi and bluetooth.
Slow sd - current cheap sd cards at least here, are class 10 which is plenty fast for all situations I can think off? also you do realize that sd card is an ADDITIONAL storage right? you seem to skip this fact entirely, the internal memory options of high end smart phones from android is just as big as iphone's, but you can expand if you want to, no one is forcing you to use the sd card, but on iphone if you run out, you run out, yes you have cloud storage, but so does android, but they also offer a non online alternative, namely sd cards. as for 'losing your photos' that really makes no sense, modern sd cards have a very good track record sometimes better then internal memory, and if you smash your phone in many cases the sd card being so small and flat survives, the internal memory rarely does and would even if it did survive need a special recovery method.
ok now that that's over.
It is fine that you like iphones and apple, that's just fine, but that does not mean that apple is the best product around, because that entirely depends on what the user wants. If you want and feel iphones and apple products are best for you, great. But your claims make little to no sense, as if you are desperately trying to defend your product with things that are entirely subjective.
Honestly it just sounds like you are repeating the marketing lines you can see around the internet, "Facetime is unmatched" "128gb = lighting fast depository" and so on, my advise to you would be stop trying so hard to defend your product, no one is telling you to get a new one, especially if you like it, but that does not mean you can't listen to others and their thoughts and think about what they are saying......
10. Settings (Posts: 1591; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
Why not build all the way to, 16GB RAM for exanple, instead of 1GB increments every generation?
15. MrET1 (Posts: 110; Member since: 29 Jan 2015)
Because that would waste alot of energy since RAM is always on. And no mobile processor would be able to handle the amout of threads that would fill 16GB of ram. Also it would make phones cost way more to produce because RAM isn't cheap.
17. Settings (Posts: 1591; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
That is the brief description of how the spec race is. Components catch up with each other while OS requirements doesnt or minimally goes up. Even apps doesn't harness the full abilities of new components.
New SoC > larger display > new RAM > higher battery > new SoC > wash rinse repeat. Doesn't have to be in order but it gets the idea.
Plus more RAM it means more bloats to put. Hehe...
20. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
RAM size doesn't really affect energy use
Its more of a cost issue and a production issue
23. MrET1 (Posts: 110; Member since: 29 Jan 2015)
It does. More RAM means more more chips that need power. In the 16 GB case the RAM power usage is 4x as much as in 4GB (with 4GB/each chip). The processor uses alot of power to handle all those threads when you fill up that 16GB of RAM with programs, there is a reason your phone uses more battery with 10 applications opened over for example 1 application.
25. vincelongman (Posts: 4425; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
They use very very little power
I guess you may have a point with the more programs in ram
But they can just pause them or set a limit on background usage
The main problem would be trying to physically fit 4x more chips in the phone
11. vuyonc (Posts: 1014; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)
I'm not sure if this is big news if we expect phones with Samsung LPDDR4 RAM modules from several Qualcomm-backed OEMs this year.
14. tech-lover (Posts: 108; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)
Samsung has the upper hand in everything, what a mega company.! So who is providing the rest amount of ram for Apple.?
18. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
Sounds like you're trolling. Lol
Samesung isn't the only memory manufacturer in the world and Apple doesn't care where they get their RAM from, as long as they can get them cheap.
Last time I heard iPhone is the most popular phone in the country where Samesung originates. Lol
21. SuperNova (banned) (Posts: 649; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
LoL here comes the biggest troll on the planet... Nice to see you didn't get banned yet.
Apple is like a baby who can't survive alone, he needs help from his mother Samsung to feed him everyday with healthy and affordable food.
LoL, Samsung has been still the #1 in Korea. Apple is only #2. Well, i didn't wanna wake you up yet, since your dream seems to be far form true. LoL
26. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
Ban? Who do you think you are? Lol.
Everyone can see the Apple bashings and Samesung praisings in all your comments. That makes you a troll, does it not?
You're nothing but a delusional fanboy or probably a Sammy shill with no common sense.
30. SuperNova (banned) (Posts: 649; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
LoL. This guy s funny.! ;D
By your profile name, who is actually a troll/hater? Don't talk like you own PA. LoL
Stop your narrowed mind and accept what is real. ;)
36. Samesung (banned) (Posts: 61; Member since: 23 Feb 2015)
Go play with your beloved iPhone now. What real is Apple just made the most profit in history and Samesung is losing it. Lol
38. SuperNova (banned) (Posts: 649; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
LoL, I can't stop laughing at this paid troll. Samsung is considered in better position interm of valuable company. Maybe Google is your guide. Ok?
50. drunkenjay (Posts: 888; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
Do you need some apple stickers?
Maybe an apple tattoo.
Maybe a lightning port up your ass.
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