Samsung exec hints that Note 5 will ship with a dual-edged screen, too
1. DnB925Art (Posts: 947; Member since: 23 May 2013)
Now if they can keep the removable battery, someway somehow, then I would be sold. I'm a Note buyer myself.
5. drunkenjay (Posts: 859; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)
maybe they will but i will come with a plastic back.
8. finestgq1 (Posts: 22; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)
Removable battery is nice, BUT gotta have that MicroSD slot.
10. MyPhoneIsBetterThanYours (Posts: 60; Member since: 22 Feb 2015)
I'm getting sick and tired of the NOOOOOOOO MICRO SD Noooooooooo removable BATTERY. OH NO I'm Gonna DIEEEE!!!
Guys, you know I love my android brothas. But for the beast the GS6 edge is and the beast the Note 5 will be, get the f**k over it.
19. finestgq1 (Posts: 22; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)
Oh NOOooooo, some1 woke up on the wrong side of the bed? Go take a chill pill. You Mad Brah? Go take your daily android pills.
20. tedkord (Posts: 10231; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Why can't we wish for the best of all world's, no compromise device?
21. IT-Engineer (Posts: 53; Member since: 26 Feb 2015)
I bet you never carried an extra battery around to swap with,
and you just buy 128 GB and stop whinning!
No matter what the phone companies do, you people never stop whinning, make a better phone or shhhhh
23. AstronautJones (Posts: 302; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)
Why should they stop whining about what they want in a device, when you can't stop whining about them?
They whine, you whine, I whine,
we ALL whine!
27. finestgq1 (Posts: 22; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)
Amen to that! When it comes cellphones, that's very personal.
43. Eskimo.ice (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)
People that don't get the most out of their phones don't understand how essential it is to have a 128gb sd on top of the built in 32gb storage. Plus they just came out with the 200gb sandisk which is completely beast.
30. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
I doubt they will keep the removable battery. This is the NOTE V I've been waiting for. I have no issues on my Z1 tempered glass battery that doesn't remove the battery
37. ausnote4 (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Nov 2014)
i am ok with sealing the battery if >3300mah, but SD slot is a must. Also number 1 priority 6" screen PLEASE PLEASE
49. TerryTerius (Posts: 1536; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
I think moving up to 6 inches would be a significant mistake. As far as i'm aware of, there simply isn't a large crowd of people clamoring for a note series with an even bigger screen. That's why they've more or less capped it.
I don't remember the LG G Flex, Huawei Ascend 7, Nokia Lumia 1520, Sony Xperia Z Ultra (or T ultras), Galaxy Mega, Galaxy Mega 2, etc being smash successes. Yes, Huawei sold 1,000,000 in china (where there's a particular obsession with large objects be they phones or cars). But I really don't think the demand is all that great in the rest of the world for truly humongous tablet sized phones. I could be wrong, just saying.
59. ausnote4 (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Nov 2014)
I agree with you the demand may not be there but disagree that it is a mistake. Samsung got where it is by pushing the envelope started by xda flame, then htc hd2 then dell streak 5 and thereafter samsung took over. Staying the same course is risky as what htc have done.
In my experience i have purchase and sold the sony z ultra because the screen was inferior, no flash for camera and no capacitive button. I am currently rocking between a note 4 and the pantech secret note for screen estate. i would get the Samsung mega 6.3" if the hardware was of note 4 qualities.
What Samsung should do is add another note line call the Samsung Galaxy Note Mega too cover all bases. So far i am looking forward to note 5, pantech secret note 2 and sony xperia z ultra
60. TerryTerius (Posts: 1536; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
The thing is, that wouldn't be pushing the envelope. At least not today. And that's totally differnt from HTC's problem with design, which also had little do with screen size and more to do with using the space they had.
When Samsung created the note line there was literally nothing like it. They pushed the industry into a direction that it simply hadn't been in before. That wouldn't be the case with just making the note slightly bigger, because the phablet market already exists and there are already plenty of (failed or barely relevant) 6"+ phones floating around. The idea wouldn't be new and screen size is no longer a differentiating factor so there's no real benefit to chasing down ever-larger screens. That's exactly why Samsung is focusing more on the functionality of the S-pen, materials, design and their software than sheer size. Given they'd have to make the body of the note itself larger to do that (because of its home-key, proportions and s-pen) that sounds like a recipe for lower sales.
Aside from that, Samsung already has the Galaxy Note 10.1 and 12.2 as well as multiple 7-9 inch tabs. It'd make more sense to add calling features to those than making another phone that occupies the space of the already existing Galaxy Mega. And given the Mega hasn't sold very well, I don't think there's much incentive to make another phone in that space. Maybe specifically in Asia where they like huge phones, but that trend doesn't hold true for the rest of the world.
I'm not saying there aren't people like you out there who want massive phones. I'm just saying there isn't enough of a business case to justify that, and it's why you've consistently seen phones in the 5.5-5.7 range be far more successful than those in the 6"+ range. Especially now that Samsung is trying to reign in it's 100+ confusing product lines that're cannibalizing sales from one another and hurting their bottom line to produce. They're trying to make their brand more cohesive and understandable, and adding an expensive niche product that's barely different from one they already have makes very little sense.
Hope that didn't come off rude btw! Totally not my intention.
61. ausnote4 (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Nov 2014)
No worries, good to know other points of view. I was part of the dell streak 5 community who saw the potential of phablet and where i see things are that you only need one device to carry around with you hence i am amaze at the growth of tablets since my prediction was only design for kids and in education. In saying that though people start to realize that phablet can do what tablet plus more and the tablet market have stabalize.
-The mega did not sell well imo was the low hardware spec
-The pen while it is good i only use less than 1% of the time
-Definitely agree to keep the 5.7" note line
-Add a new Note Mega line to cater for us but more importantly capture the asian markets ie chinese
-If too many confusing product lines reduce or purge the mega line which actually exist in two lines 5.8 and 6.3 or one the many lower end line.
So i hope Samsung is listening to our needs for the next note/mega line. I cannot see any downside to this as the 5.7' become mainstream 5.1' become small phone then where is the beast hardware 6.3' phone from Samsung?
I am a big big fan of the amoled screen and hence still clinging on to my note 4
3. hateftotti (Posts: 194; Member since: 03 May 2011)
You mean I should leave my decent Note 4 for more decent Note 5?
4. thegeneral7010 (Posts: 319; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
dont u take abreak PA s6 isnt releaed yet and now u started to talk about note 5.
13. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3713; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
The Samsung exec brought it up. Are they supposed to just not report the news?
6. Credo (Posts: 744; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
If they are going to remove the SD Card slot of the Note 5 i am going to another brand... i can live with no removable battery, i was used to it with my old Lumia 920 but now .. Can't live without my entire Star Trek collection on my Note 4's SD card :)
9. JocularJ (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)
I loved my note 2 so much that I upgraded to the note 3. Skipped the note 4 SOLELY because the screen size didn't increase. If the note 5, or any of its variations lose the removable battery then I don't care. If they loser expandable memory I don't care as long as there if a 128gb option. But it absolutely must have a large screen for me.
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 19734; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
If they drop the sd, removable battery, and make the battery smaller just to go uni body, that'll suck. Still can't believe what they did to the S line. Don't butcher the Note Samsung.
33. Mutation.X (banned) (Posts: 185; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)
The S6 and Edge will fail. Ugly design. Note5 will also failed. Note 3, N4 looks nice. S2 great sharp looking angular design. S3 ugly.. ...
Sales will decline with these 2 ugly cheap copycat design from Iphone6.
36. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8344; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
You know, that's pretty funny. Because this phone here -http://www.gsmnation.com/blog/
wp-content/uploads/2013/01/1.-Samsung-Ativ-S-Review-Image-Courtesy-Anand-Tech.jpg- predates the iPhone 6. Sue it isn't made of metal, but the design language is so very similar.
When you guys claim Samsung copies Apple's phones, do you even go an look at Samsung phones that predate that model of the iPhone? Because if you did, you wouldn't sit there like an ignorant parrot repeating tuff that is not only untrue, but is easy to find details with a simple web search.
And iFans wonder why they get criticized? Because you ignorant trolls deserve every last bit of it.
40. Mutation.X (banned) (Posts: 185; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)
Looks exactly like the iphone6. Curved metal outer frames.
41. Mutation.X (banned) (Posts: 185; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)
Samsung was caring about ergonomic, rather than making a sexy gorgeous stylish phone like Lenovo vibe or the Lumi@930, and Sony Z. Thier hardware is great, but design is ugly.
The only few sexy phones are the Alpha range, then Note, and finally the S2 was nice.
46. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Techie, dont try to be smart. Stop spreading the BS. There's no way Apple used a phone as ugly as the Ativ S for inspiration. No chance
From the grill to the space gray color (and even the camera hump!), Apple based their design on the iPod Touch
50. TerryTerius (Posts: 1536; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
....You totally missed the point. It doesn't matter if apple coped the Ativ S or not. The point is, there is a precedent for that design that PRECEDES the iPhone 6 by 2 years. The claim isn't "Apple copied Samsung". It's that Samsung THEMSELVES had a design like that 2 years before the iPhone 6 even existed. Just as Apple had the touch for inspiration, Samsung had the Ativ S.
The headphone jack placement & grill I will give you are likely Apple elements. But the overall design doesn't come from them, and it's even more unlikely that it did given the time frame. Even the shape of the frame itself is different than the iP6.
Can we stop these stupid copy claims? Literally all tech companies borrow from each other either in design elements, functionality or conceptually anyway. It's how all progress has happened. Why don't you try not being blind instead of insulting people and making assumptions -_-
52. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
The timing of the release of Samsung's curved frame with its other Apple-like similarities is no coincidence. They're using Apple's new design and recent success and momentum to sell their own product, THAT's the problem and Apple has the right to seek damages.
If Apple doesn't take legal action, there's nothing stopping Samsung from doing this over and over again!
55. TerryTerius (Posts: 1536; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
Yeah. They're not going to win off of a speaker grill and headphone jack placement. Outside of the fact that 90% of phones have a similar shape, they'd have nothing to really go on. Your accusations don't' make much sense, because they don't look anything alike outside of the grill & jack (and button placement). As far as I know, that location isn't exactly a selling point for either phone despite your belief that's going to let Samsung "capitalize" on Apple's design.
1. Front & Rear
GS6 - Glass front & back
- Noticeable Samsung logo beneath the earpiece
- Earpiece flanked by multiple sensors & camera (L to R)
- large elliptical (ish) Home key flanked by capacative keys
- Large square camera sensor paired with rectangular cut--out housing sensors & flash in the upper 1/3rd of the phone, with branding beneath.
- Unblemished back, completely smooth.
iPhone 6 - Glass front, unibody aluminum back & frame
- No branding on front
- Round home key, no capacative buttons
- Earpiece flanked by prox. sensor & camera (above & up)
- Circular camera & flash in the upper right corner
- Apple logo in the upper 1/3rd, in the middle of the phone & phone name on the lower third
- Plastic strips for cell reception break up the metal back on the top & bottom.
2. The frame is much flatter on the sides of the GS6 compared to the iPhone 6's rounded shape and there are plastic strips for cell reception on the top and bottom of the phone. Aside from that, as I said before they have the Ativ S precedent. In other words, that'd be all types of difficult to prove. And "vaguely similar" doesn't cut it in court. They're not going to sue over a frame. Besides that, the frame of the iP6 is closer to the Ativ S, than the GS6 is to the iP6. Although the LAYOUT is similar, the shape isn't.
Just saying, outside of the button placement, grill & jack it isn't a strong case dude. They can seek damages all they want, if they seek to waste money in court.
56. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Thanks for the breakdown but I think I know how the S6 and iPhone look like. It doesn't need to be a clone for it to be a copy. They did the exact same thing with the Note 4/Alpha with the rectangular aluminum chassis, external antennae, and chamfered edges and everyone still denied any resemblance.
And Apple won before didn't it? What makes you so confident they won't win again? This time they have substantially more objective evidence. In the end, Samsung can always prove they had their design for the S6 even before the schematics for the iPhone 6 leaked... but they won't because they didn't.
Anyway, it's ultimately up to Apple to decide what they want to do. I was just disproving Techie's stupid claim that the Ativ S was the iPhone's inspiration. Funny how you had a problem with my comment and not his... I'm out.
57. TerryTerius (Posts: 1536; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
I'm fairly sure for 3 reasons.
1- In this most recent trial Apple barely won enough money to cover what they spent litigating it in the first place. They didn't get a sales ban, and it was pretty much a pointless Pyrrhic victory over devices Samsung doesn't even make anymore. Aside from that Samsung still apparently intends to fight the 2012 decision. Apple would be fighting to gain pretty much what they started with going into the lawsuit.
2- Apple & Samsung have already agreed to settle all of their other disputes. Though this doesn't exclude a possible future lawsuit, I doubt they'll go this route again.
3- Given that 80% of smartphones have rounded corners and flat/rounded sides I deliberately omitted that because it's pretty much the most logical shape any phone will ever take. The bar form factor predates the iPhone which is why I always thought it was kind of ridiculous they'd go after anyone for using what is pretty much the only form a smartphone will ever work in. You have 2 options. Square corners, or rounded. This is exactly why Apple's attempts to use this logic failed EVERYWHERE but the U.S and Germany. That attempt failed in Britain, South Korea, France, Italy and effectively Holland too.
I took issue with your comment over his, because he was correct, though not for the reason you're thinking. His post is written to insinuate that Apple copied Samsung in the first half of it. Which I wouldn't agree with, though he is correct that the two devices frames (Ativ S & iP6) are nearly identical. Given the GS6 pretty much only has a similarity with the iP6 in terms of frame, making that connection between all three is easy. Hence saying that they DEFINITIVELY copied from the iP6 and NOT their own device is kind of hard to argue because the two already look similar. Only one existed in 2012 and one came along in 2014. The shape was already in Samsung's catalouge, but the buttons, grill & headphone jack placement are pure Apple.
That's pretty much irrefutable dude.
My point is you're acting like the Ativ S never existed, and that it somehow doesn't count or that it's impossible for Samsung to draw elements from their own design. Did they take elements from the iPhone 6? Sure. Did they already have a product with the exact same frame before the iPhone 6 was even conceptualized for them to draw on? Yes. That is in no way saying Apple copied them. Just saying you're trying to make a definitive "AHA! Gotcha!" argument when there isn't one to make.
I'll have to disagree with your argument about the note 4 as well. Because though they share beveled edges (inspired by the iP5 in Samsung's case), it's physically impossible for any human being with working eyes to ever confuse the two.
58. TerryTerius (Posts: 1536; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
But have a good day! I bear no ill will towards you. I just think you're objectively wrong. I wish you luck in all your pursuits.
15. tango_charlie (Posts: 243; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
Just make the Node Edge 2 less curved (like S6 Edge) and make the Edge the standard Note 5, so just one Note 5.
16. toyboyz (Posts: 178; Member since: 22 Jan 2010)
Last chance SAMSUNG! Note 5 "SD card slot/memory expansion"! on this one.
17. amozhi (Posts: 130; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
Can also hint will it have a micro SD card? Absence of micro SD is a deal breaker
18. ishamesung (Posts: 46; Member since: 14 Jan 2015)
I'd rather be waiting for the note6 and s7/edge next month! LMAO
22. tedkord (Posts: 10231; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Yes Samsung devices do advance much more quickly than others. But don't worry, the hardware and features will eventually filter down to other makers after a year or so.
54. ishamesung (Posts: 46; Member since: 14 Jan 2015)
Sir note7 will be around any time soon, so will i buy the note 6 over the note 5 or i'll just wait for the note10 next year? I need some advice, i am a pissed off note 3 user...
24. KickRocks (Posts: 164; Member since: 22 Mar 2011)
Some people are just never, ever happy. I'm excited to see what the Note 5 will bring. If it has a removable back and sd card some will complain, most will buy it. If it has a uni body like the upcoming S6, some will complain, most will buy it. You can't please everyone all the time
25. JayBEE (Posts: 111; Member since: 03 Apr 2014)
I am counting on them not to drop the SD card slot and the removable battery from the Note 5. If they do, the Note Edge will be my last Samsung device.
28. Ruturaj (Posts: 1276; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)
I very much like the concept of side dock but note the edge thing. Plain note 5 will be my next device for sure though.
29. DnB925Art (Posts: 947; Member since: 23 May 2013)
I actually do carry a spare battery. I also loved having the ZeroLemon on my Note 2. I can live without microsd but I'm sure, like they did with the Captivate, you can have a metal back with a removable battery, or at least have a semi removable battery that can be replaced when the battery capacity is reduced after a year or 2.
Still even without a removable battery I would still get a Note 5.I've had every Note except for the Note 3 thus far.
31. Tattari (Posts: 24; Member since: 14 Aug 2013)
I wish if the Micro sd slot remains there for the note 5 tbh , so i can just swap my personal data instantly without needing to copy them , BUT if not then it's just a minimal annoyance at the beginning , seeing how the S6 is really insane in terms of hardware specs , i expect the note 5 to be a beast , since samsung has always made the note better than 6 , so it is safe to say that the galaxy note 5 will be better than six :P
32. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
Problem is, assuming that it doesn't come with an SD slot....64 GB costs Waaay too much money to most buyers, hence , this option is out of reach...so bring back the darn Sd slot!!!!!!!
34. Mutation.X (banned) (Posts: 185; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)
Agree. They should also being something new. Exquisite materials, like no one else offers.
35. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8344; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Then I will patiently wait because that sucker is going to be the biggest beast ever.
We hops for the Exynos 7420X or higher Octacore with 3GB of DDR4, 2500x1600 resolution, minimum 54GB Internal storage with a 128GB option, or since the hone is bigger, but the microsd slot on the outside with a cover, 3500Mah battery and an S-Pen with 4096 pressure sensitivity.
42. Ruturaj (Posts: 1276; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)
They will manufacture next Exynos with 14nm LPP (current one is LPE) and they might go for Arm cortex A72 (mediatek will start shipping A72 based SOC soon, so why can't Samsung) and external can go up to 200 gb now.
38. namesib (Posts: 96; Member since: 08 Feb 2015)
The Note is already expensive, so I dread to think how much this will cost.
I just want them to keep the removable battery and microSD slot.
39. bubbadoes (Posts: 815; Member since: 03 May 2012)
here we go. fire sale for Note 4..now that (like I said before for Note 5) will have dual sides. For $799--Go figure.
44. TournaFlyer (Posts: 24; Member since: 20 Sep 2014)
I, also can't wait for note 5! I want a replaceable battery, not because I swap it out daily, because the phone will simply outlive the battery and I don't want to have to send my devise back and pay 2-3 times what a new cell would cost.
However,I fear this is the future for 1 simple reason.... "it's ALWAYS about the money" and replacing batteries will be an over 50 BILLION dollar business. Samsung wants their piece of that.
47. Teeeyoo (Posts: 97; Member since: 13 Jul 2013)
Ill not be surprise if Apple will make its own edge/curve screen iphones then name it iphone curves or maybe iphone slides..
48. javy108 (Posts: 1004; Member since: 27 Jul 2014)
Theyre going to fast, now Android devices has no starring role, Galaxy S6 isnt related yet and were talkin bout Note 5, After 2 months released s6 we'll be talking about S7....
51. yoosufmuneer (Posts: 1491; Member since: 14 Feb 2015)
I hope S7 will have only an Edge variant.