Samsung could have poached HP's PC division VP to also lay hands on webOS
Stable, but very low margin business as HP's PC division is the last thing Samsung needs to outlay cash for. WebOS, on the other hand, could serve as a bet hedge against a potential vertical integration of Android because of the Google/Motorola deal. Pundits have argued that Samsung might be interested in webOS for its tablets, as it already has bada OS and Windows Phone as Android hedges in its smartphone business.
HP, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have a clue what to do with webOS, after it bought Palm for $1.2 billion, and reportedly spent $330 million developing webOS hardware. An outright sell instead of "licensing" webOS to imaginary customers might help it recover some of those sunk costs.
1. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Unless Sammy wants to get into the OS development business, I doubt it will pick up webOS. All of the phone OS's it is putting on the handsets it is selling are produced by someone else.
Ironically, Google's acquisition of Moto may have helped WP7....
3. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Samsung is already in the OS business. It has BADA, Touchwiz, that new Korean "OS" initiative with LG, and now maybe this.
4. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
the new Korean OS most likely is bada...
2. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
well, I always said one of the android boys should buy into webOS and incorperate the good parts into their ROMs. Guess someone else had the same idea.
How does hiring an HP VP give it access to WebOS though? Either there is part of the story that is missing about samsung buying shares of HP or something similar... or are they hoping he remembers all those good parts and gives them to samsung from his head? If its the latter, im sure that would be illegal proprietary information sharing. Which is naughty naughty.
5. snowgator (Posts: 3452; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
I still do not think it is in anyone's interest to try and do hardware and software in this mobile market. I know Apple can do it, but I think in a few years time even they will have to look at the cost of maintaining both sides of the ecosystem. As fast as the competition is in mobile, being able to concentrate on hardware while an OS provider develops and maintains the software is cost effective on both sides. I see Blackberry become less and less profitable and go longer and longer between new devices as the world passes them by. I see Nokia unable to maintain the millions of handsets running Symbian OS due to costs and squander MeeGo due to how thin they were stretched. Who is growing by leaps and bounds? HTC and Samsung, who hang their profits on Android and put out high quality hardware. How did Motorola turn their business around back to a 300 million profit after being in the hole only 3 years ago? By hitching to Android and working on high end hardware. I know Samsung has Bada, and they may turn it into a profitable OS. But, Android is their cash cow due to low overhead. Unless they plan to use WeBOS with Bada, this would make no sense.
I heard Firefox wanted to get into a open source OS market. That might make more sense.
6. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Ok I will say it... Samsung would make the EXACT same mistake HP did if they bought WebOS.
The only HOPE for WebOS is if it can take out WP7... And it is too late for that, WP7 phones and mango are hitting soon, so anyone putting WebOS out there will be too far behind.
I do not think the market can contain more then 3 OS's. Anything beyond that will be in the "other" category in EVERY marketshare report.
IF Google (that is a big IF), desides to take on the hardware/software market, samsung just has to go to WP7... that is their out. Anything else is just too costly.
Nokia saw this, why do you think they are going with a 3rd party OS?
7. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Ahem, you're a bit wrong here.
You say "IF Google (that is a big IF), desides to take on the hardware/software market, samsung just has to go to WP7... that is their out. Anything else is just too costly."
That is wrong. Samsung has to with bada, and they already do !
There is no way Samsung will be pushing WP7, they will push bada, and ditch Android in the next few years.
8. snowgator (Posts: 3452; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Again Peter- I have yet to understand why Samsung would walk away from Android. Android is the reason they can develop your beloved Bada. Google will not use Motorola as an exclusive partner - having an open OS is the reason they could afford to go patent trolling and buy Moto. It makes no money sense for either of them to walk away from a profitable partnership. Yes, I think Bada will be a well supported OS. But only in certain markets, I do agree it is a smart, worthwhile venture to protect Samsung in case something changes.
10. MyJobSux (unregistered)
With M$ filing patent infringement suites on phone makers installing Android on their phones this could be an alternate option for a phone OS that they could own. WP still has a fee to license it so that is just another bill going to M$. WebOS is a sweet little OS and just needs some TLC to keep it going. The main thing HP couldn't do was hardware and get it to market in a timely manner.
Another thing no one has mentioned yet are the patents that came with the Palm buyout. Will the patents follow WebOS? I would hope so but patents appear to be worth more than gold themselves right now since battles are fought in the court room instead of in the market place. I hate to see WebOS die, would be nice to see it live on and give us another choice in OS. I think it has great potential, just needs good hardware to run on that doesn't take so long to get to market.
Seems strange though that Samsung would look at WebOS after getting the CM7 guy on board to work on Android. Maybe WebOS is Plan B...
11. pinoyplaya (unregistered)
webOS is probably the only mobileOS to have a chance at taking down iOS. I've played with it and used it for a while now and it has a huge potential. If HP allowed Samsung to use webOS in their mobile phones, I can only see other companies trying to get webOS on their mobile devices. It will certainly surpass Apple's iOS.