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Rumored Apple A10 sole provider TSMC affected by earthquake more than originally thought

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Rumored Apple A10 sole provider TSMC affected by earthquake more than originally thought
With rumors already circulating that TSMC will be the sole supplier of Apple's A10 chipset this year, it appears that a February 6th earthquake in Taiwan might have impacted the company's facilities more than originally thought. In the immediate aftermath of the quake, TSMC said wafer production would be affected by less than 1%. Now, after doing a more thorough investigation, TSMC says wafer output will be short by more than 1%.

TSMC, which is producing the A9 chip for the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus along with Samsung, at first believed that 95% of its damaged foundry machines could be restored to perfect working condition in the first two to three days following the earthquake. In fact, the company has already restored production at Fab 6 and Fab 14B. But the natural disaster damaged Fab 14 more than thought at first glance.

Considering the number of chips that TSMC will have to deliver to Apple, all cylinders better be running at full speed if the plans are for TSMC to actually be the sole provider of the A10 SoC to Apple.

The earthquake, which killed five people and injured 144 in Taiwan, also affected panel supplier Innolux. A pair of factories at Southern Taiwan Science Park were closed temporarily, with production shifted to unaffected facilities in the northern part of the country.

source: Digitimes

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posted on 15 Feb 2016, 10:50 18

1. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8985; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Samsung to the rescue. See Apple! Every time you try to leave Samsung, something bad happens to you.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:13 30

7. tedkord (Posts: 10705; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


That's not funny. People died and were injured, and might have their livelihoods affected by this.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:41 16

13. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2274; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


He said something bad happens to apple(not getting their chips on time) You knew he wasn't talking about tsmc and the earthquake in taiwan so why even go there.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:29 1

42. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


So it's funny and ok when Apple milks and rinses illiterates?

posted on 16 Feb 2016, 10:40

71. lyndon420 (Posts: 4001; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


You're right Ted, but the title of this article isn't reflecting on the people who's lives were affected by this. No one is wishing harm on anyone, but when the Illuminati's cash cow is affected negatively...I can't help but smile at their misfortune especially when (like techie said) apple decided to ditch their main supplier again (this being Samsung). Again...no disrespect to those who lost their lives, but in relevance to this article...I smiled a little bit - because 1% of me is pure evil.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:20 1

38. BradyCrack (Posts: 533; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


TSMC makes better chips than Samsung

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:24 1

40. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Well said Techie. Lots of people have died buying or dealing with Apple.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 19:42

63. UglyFrank (Posts: 1608; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


You're all pathetic

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 10:56 4

2. GreenMan (Posts: 1016; Member since: 09 Nov 2015)


Now, that would be a tad bit more appropriate:

"Android fans rejoice as Rumored Apple A10 sole provider TSMC affected by earthquake more than originally thought".

Why the envy? The jealousy? The destructive behavior...???

I'm a Windows Phone user, and an Android Purist...

But I don't want bad for Apple... They're fine phones which work well right out of the box... They don't need no stinking launchers, themes, widgets & icon packs to look & feel interesting...

And I respect that...

A full fledged Mobile OS that runs well even on a humble Dual Core (Okay, it might be the world's most powerful Dual Core, but its still a BLOODY DUAL CORE!)...

Whereas competitors rely on Hexa & Octa Core (some even on Deca Core) to squeeze out the same performance...

It's called: SOFTWARE OPTIMIZATION...! Which Android truly lacks!

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:01 4

4. natypes (Posts: 1081; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)


That's the most backwards statement I've read on here. Actually they DO need that stuff to look and feel interesting.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:04 8

6. vuyonc (Posts: 994; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


TSMC makes Mediatek and entry level Snapdragon processors, Nvidia GPUs and SoCs and (rumoured) AMD APUs among other important chips.

How narrow minded do you have to be to think that TSMC's only function is to fab Apple chips?! How much MORE narrow minded do you have to be to think that Android fans are rejoicing?

Jeez, you non-Android plebeian :V

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 16:19

58. cheetah2k (Posts: 1527; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


So what you're saying is that TSMC fabs all the left over crap chips? I wouldn't call any of these flag ship processors :D

posted on 16 Feb 2016, 09:15

69. elitewolverine (Posts: 5125; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


TSMC also provides top secret chips to military....I would not call their fabs left over crap by anymeans.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:15 4

8. tedkord (Posts: 10705; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It's not optimization, it's functionality. When you do a lot more, you need more power.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:25

10. Podrick (Posts: 510; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


You answered your own question. Most powerful dual core thats as much as or maybe even more powerful than competitor's quad and octa core.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 12:00 1

17. willard12 (Posts: 1564; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Android existed before the dual core mobile processor. And, if something needs octacore, what difference does it make if it has it, and still cheaper than the dual core phone?

But, since I'm clearly unimformed, please explain Apple's optimization process. What does Apple do to "optimize" their software to work magically with their hardware? Or, is "optimized" a propaganda term for "vanilla"?

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 12:39

19. Iodine (Posts: 1309; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


We don't know exactly what they do.

But we can see that in many occasions, for example Apple metal, the Nitro JS engine or coalesed touch scanning.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:51

30. marorun (Posts: 3393; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


We can see the great optimisation when ios 8 and 9 came out they where so well optimised they needed like 20 fix in the following weeks or months...

Very well optimised.

Its only need less power because its has more direct access to hardware vs android running on a linux virual machine..

Its like iphone are 4 cylinder cars but very lightweight where android are 12 cylinder cars but very heavy.

This dont change a simple fact... a V12 cost much more than a V4 ;) So iphone are overpriced.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:21

25. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


The software optimisation is very important and if you had any basic idea of coding you would know that but Its not the main case, the dual core A9 is better than the Octa core 7420 and sd810 on HARDWARE level

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:45 1

27. willard12 (Posts: 1564; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Thanks. I clearly stated I was uninformed. But, the question had nothing to do with the importance of optimization. But, what exactly makes Apple's mobile OS optimized? I am aware of the single core performance of the A9 as well as the multicore performance of Exynos and SD.

But, back to the question, is a WP device from Microsoft more "optimized" than what Nokia offered since the hardware and software are now produced by the same corporation? Is software optimization the reason why my TI 83 calculator is blazing fast at calculations? Or, is it fast because that's pretty much all it does?

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 04:08

75. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


ios is better optimized because its not using virtual machine like android and objective-c allows much better resource management.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:54 1

31. marorun (Posts: 3393; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Nope its not if you would run linux on both and do benchmarking the 7420 and sd810 would destroy the A9.

Its run super fast and do good benchmark because ios has hardware level access where android is a virtual machine..

posted on 17 Feb 2016, 03:48

74. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Yep it is, even on linux 810 will get destroyed in any possible way and 7420 will have small advantage ONLY in multi score ONLY if the benchmark test do not support all the instructions that A9 has and 7420 don't, and that for very short time because it will start thermal throttle. On the GPU side power vr 7600 is more better by any possible way than adreno 430 and mali 760

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 15:11 1

54. sgodsell (Posts: 3381; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Clearly you do not know either slanislav. iOS apps are compiled and optimized for Apples hardware specifically. This means apps will run faster compared to Androids apps which are compiled at runtime or install time and are optimized for the hardware they are running on. This is where Android traded a slight amount of speed and optimization for the ability to have its apps and ecosystem not tied to any specific hardware. This means Android is agnostic and its apps can run on any ARM, MIPS, or x86 hardware. Apple and Microsoft have seen the benefits in Android and its platform. That is why both Apple and Microsoft both came up with similar languages and runtimes to Android. Apple has their Swift language and runtime, whereas Microsoft has their Universal apps. It's funny because both Apple and Microsoft want to get where Android currently is at. Apple wants its iOS developers to make Swift apps so they can run on iOS or OS/X. That is the ultimate goal for Apple. However with that said its going to take time to build up an agnostic Swift ecosystem. This is where Android already has a vast ecosystem of agnostic apps (1.8 million).

posted on 16 Feb 2016, 09:34

70. elitewolverine (Posts: 5125; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Agnostic only comes into play when you need to switch devices that have different hardware.

Android had to be written with x86 compatibility just like WP had to be written for ARM.

When 1.5billion desktops are running x86/64 compliant hardware you don't need 'agnostic' apps. It simply runs.

Since x86 are not yet phone ready, close but not just yet, a windows phone app could not make the jump. However neither could android at first either. I could not take Asus Android Fork for x86 and pop it into S6 Edge unmodified.

There is always limitations, whether it be software or hardware, for all OS etc.

What makes Apple's OS is yes hardware to software optimization but also because the runtime and OS is designed around a dual core setup. Not to mention up until recently even desktop gaming rigs didn't show much improvements when going from intels extreme dual cores to quads or more. Because only so much can be done on the CPU.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 12:02

18. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8985; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


What are you talkign about? No one wants to see any company suffer bad thing...well other than Microsoft of the 80's and maybe Apple right now.

Now one is happy if TSMC can or can't make their production quota.

Even though I would like to see Apple suffer, this isn't the way I would choose. I rather they suffer by completely goign out of business. Them and some other comapnies I can think of.

Why? Simple. But I'm not gettign into that here.

SMC is a company Apple chose to work with, its their money I could care less how they choose to spend it. After all they spend very little on their products anyways. They are only hoarding the cash and tax dodging.

Hwoever, in order for TSMC to get paid, they have to meet their numbers in production. If they can't they may not get paid. I have nothign against them as they've done nothign to me, and I coudl care less Appel chose them over Samsung.

Its just as I said, every time Apple tried to leave Samsung, somethign bad happens to Apple. In this case, there coudl be production issues with TSMC chips, which would slow iPhone production. Which will help Apple when the new iPhone comes so they can under-inflate the numbers they have available even more.

Apple is the only company I know that has billions of dollars and when they release a new product, run out in a few days even after being in production 6 months. yet other OEM's like Samsung makes 100's or products and when they release stuff supply is usually up to par and they keep up fairly well. In fact the S6 Edge was the only time they under-estimated demand on a product.

No one has said Apple makes bad phones. What we do say is for the money they make from them, they should be better and that si simply an honest fact.

Apple purposely doesn't do stuff to intentionally lock you end and force you to buy the next model to keep them making money.

As far as iOS being full fledged? HAH! Laughable at best. Windows is a full feldge OS. Android is a lot liek it in good ways and some bad. Apple is worse and they cant or choose not to do 1/2 the things.

The facts have show this. Apple is the OEm that has more OS patches in 2015 vs Windows and Android combined. Apple has had more app int he app store be flooded with malware than Android has, yet Apple is suppose to have a better application submission process.

Stop lying to yourself in order to cheerlead Apple. They dont give a crap about you, so why do you care about them so much?

I care about no corp. make what I like I will buy it, no matter the brand, no matter what some irate fanboi says. It's MY money I buy what I like. But i dont make false claims saying something is better just because I like it. It actually has to be better.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 12:52 3

20. Iodine (Posts: 1309; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Apple went with TSMC for iPhone 6 - the second most sucesfull of all time.
TSMC also made A8X and A9X the most powerfull iPad chips of all time, putting some heat even on Intel.
And a big chunk of A9's too.

I don't see any problems with them, they actually were breakthrough chips at their time, just like their predecessors.

And why Apple can't keep up with demand ? Possibly because people can't get enough of iPhones, a "problem" others would die to have.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:03 1

22. tedkord (Posts: 10705; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The A8X and A9X didn't come close to putting heat on Intel's top chips.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:06 1

23. Iodine (Posts: 1309; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


In what metric ? In an iPad ?

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:14 1

24. tedkord (Posts: 10705; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


In power.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:08 2

35. marorun (Posts: 3393; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Want to compare the fastest i7 vs any of apple soc?

( i see the excuses comming... but its not a mobile soc )

Well Apple sell computers too right? why not use thats awesome design and make a soc to beat i7? Nope wont happen because they cant design such high end chip.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:54

51. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8985; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Why would you compare an X86 processor to an ARM chip anyways?

Have you ever read the technology behind RISC and CISC?

Look at the weight X86 processor are pulling? You can't compare stripped down code to full desktop code. EVER!

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 18:32

59. ibend (Posts: 3908; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


i7 on surface pro 4 is good enough to put A9X to shame.. check their geekbench score.. didnt like benchmark? need real life example? try to run crysis on them, lol

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:06 1

34. marorun (Posts: 3393; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Nope you are wrong its not thats they cant keep up its they wont keep up because its sound good on media to say you are sold-out of devices.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:00 6

33. another1 (Posts: 157; Member since: 25 Dec 2015)


@Techie

TLDR

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:33

43. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Since why would you read when you can't face the truth and ignore the reality of life.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 13:48 2

29. marorun (Posts: 3393; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


As much as i agree we should not make fun of a company or anyone thats suffer because of a natural disaster dont use this as an opportunity to say crap..

Iphone dont work well out of the box. usually they dont have latest software and usually they run the software thats they came out first with ( exemple ios 9.0 on iphone 6S )

Not a single iphone 6S i activated worked correctly out of the box we all had to update them to newer ios and even then there is still lots of strange glitchs..

since ios 7.0 sorry but ios is not more stable than android.

and if you are an android purist you would know the fondamental difference between ios and android.

ios 9 , 8 and even 7 dont run very well on iphone 4S they should not update iphone past 2 year of age but only give them the new api ( wich google do! )

You dont look like an android purist more like a big liar!

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:39 1

45. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Apple a patent troll bully and thief company should not exist.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:52

50. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 8985; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


No! Android fans arent going to rejoice. Why should they?
TSMC isn't a bad company, Apple is.

It's quality vs quantity. Apple chose TSMC because they wanted something Samsung wasn't able to give. At least they wasnt like the one company who was goign to make the sapphire glass for Apple and making claims of something they couldn't do.

The fact is, I can only assume Samsung couldnt fulfill what Apple wanted. For all we know, maybe they could and simply said no. after all I am sure even though Samsung could use the money, the headache of dealing with Apple may not be worth the money. Some people will do anything for money, even be involve in a terrible relationship for it...AM I CORRECT?

Apple will just use this as an excuse as to why their are again shoratges of product after its release. Because Appel is the only OEM i know of who has so much money and yet when they release new products, can't keep a reasonable supply.

Apple releases a new phone, I pre-order and it takes at least 6 weeks to get it. I pre-order a Samsung and I get it a full day before its official retail release day.

Then always in the news, there is an issue with a suppl;y of something to Apple. I'm not saying it can't happen, but it happens to them EVERY YEAR. Yet happens to no one else. Hmmm!

yet no one gives it a 2nd thought because its Apple. Let it be anyone else and they are guilty of everything even if they are innocent.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 15:01 3

52. Ninetysix (Posts: 2340; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Calm down broseph. Foxconn is not big enough to meet Apple's demands. They do mass hiring when assembling the next gen iPhones. No other OEM comes close to selling 13M+ on opening weekend. Of course there will be a shortage. Think broseph..think.

No, Samsung will NEVER refuse business from Apple.

posted on 16 Feb 2016, 14:47

73. lyndon420 (Posts: 4001; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Yeah. There will be an article soon about how TMSC can't keep up with demand...thus falsely inflating apple's popularity amongst their minions.

posted on 16 Feb 2016, 14:44

72. lyndon420 (Posts: 4001; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Apple has been slowly copying Android - notifications, widgets, etc. What was the point you were trying to make again?

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 10:59

3. pureviewuser (Posts: 494; Member since: 11 Nov 2012)


You hit the nail on the head mate and I'm a wp user

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:02

5. TheGunnyPT (Posts: 252; Member since: 12 Feb 2015)


I wonder if this will indeed affect the A10 production and force Apple to sign in on Samsung's prices to produce some of them.

Plus, any news on how's the production of the A8/A9 (?) for the 5SE?

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:18 5

9. Biernot (unregistered)


750p display incoming

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 18:34

60. ibend (Posts: 3908; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


maybe they'll increase it a little bit 751p, or 766p o.O
but its sure will be non-standart resolution

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 11:49

15. legiloca (Posts: 1330; Member since: 11 Nov 2014)


Apple will have to depend now on Samsung then if TSMC can't recover on time, feel bad for them though :/

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:11 2

36. RoboticEngi (Posts: 609; Member since: 03 Dec 2014)


Waiting for all the sheep saying samsung was to blame for the earthquake. ....

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:22 2

39. BradyCrack (Posts: 533; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


That's not funny.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 14:35 3

44. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


Yes it was.

posted on 16 Feb 2016, 02:03

68. BradyCrack (Posts: 533; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


If people got hurt and killed then it's not funny. At all.

posted on 15 Feb 2016, 19:59

66. hanabi (Posts: 177; Member since: 08 Oct 2015)


Not an ideal country to build semiconductor factories where earthquake is frequent

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