Petition started to ask Google to make apps for Windows Phone
1. big.e927 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 22:49 16 31
If these people truly want google apps, they should go to Android. If only Microsoft could just suck up their pride and ask google nicely to make apps for them, it'd be a much more simple plan to execute, but no, for the select of trying to sell windows phone 8, they keep insisting in trash-talking the competition. While ios is in competition with Android, they've never resorted to trash talking about the platform itself, just about some of the phones down the latter for the sake of sales. It's a matter of principle and mutual respect and a petition for applications, idk, the thought just comes off as slightly pathetic.
2. ckoch125 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 22:56 5 1
Pretty much every other os has google apps so there is choice but for those who want wp8 maybe switch to MS services
76. smartphone posted on 28 Dec 2012, 20:59 1 2
Google is not same company it was two three years ago it has become arrogant and hypocrite and the reason for this is MS is getting royalties from android manufacturers and making more money with it than google.
The reason for Google to support IOS is because Apple is not competing with Google's services while MS is with Bing,outlook, SkyDrive, Bing maps, browser, desktop OS etc.
3. chrischau1308 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:00 16 3
So you suggest people who already bought a WP go buy another Android?
Google's reason for not making apps for WP is because they don't see a need and their users using WP. So Google said that if you use WP you don't use Google service?
Who is sucking up now?
Apple respects Google? Why do they try to dump all Google's services then?
iOS users uses Google's apps all most all the time, do they need to use Android.
MS never said they don't need Google, they compete with Google, just like others platform does. Google SAID they won't make apps for MS. Who have less mutual respect here?
Sorry if my opinions are wrong, but I disagree with what you said.
4. big.e927 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:15 2 8
Did you hear about how Apple and Google teamed up to buy $525 million worth of patents off of Kodak about a week or two ago? They've gotten professional opinions about the matter. As it turns out, that even though they are competitors, they share an "adult relationship", meaning that there is some kind of respect there, or at least a mutual sense of professionalism. That said, Apple is going through patent suits with manufacturers, not google. So keep in mind, if Apple can remain at a neutral standing with Google, then there's still hope for Ms to get their hands on some google apps. The problem is that their CEO Steve Balmer talks too much sh*t and is a arrogant prick, as most CEO's are as of this day in age.
74. Henrik posted on 28 Dec 2012, 17:55 0 0
Did you miss the news that Apple and Google wasn't the only parties in that buyers consortium? Microsoft is in on it too, and RIM, and a whole bunch of other tech companies also. So you can cut the crap now.
20. XPERIA-KNIGHT posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:47 1 3
Microsoft is looking for a leg up plain and simple...For alot of us (android users) it doesnt seem like something we should just jump on right away.....sorry
"So Google said that if you use WP you don't use Google service?"
"Who is sucking up now?"
"Apple respects Google? Why do they try to dump all Google's services then?"
Maybe Google feels as if they already have one company trying to use them every chance they get and it would be HIGHLY unwise to allow another to do so!
Sorry microsoft but i guarantee you alot of android users are uneasy about this move.........Maybe they can work something out but we'll have to see
25. haseebzahid posted on 28 Dec 2012, 02:18 5 1
if u say MS is that bad why on earth they would like to take office for android if they want no google apps in return the best thing from MS that is OFFICE is being announced for android where does your argument falls in now however on other side google is the acting like mean company who dont want to make apps at all like they dont want wp to grow this shows who is truly evil. if they are open then why closed on other OS its double standard by google.
38. lyndon420 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:58 3 3
Just because Android is an open platform doesn't mean they are forced to make all their apps for every platform. I'm hoping that Google starts keeping their best apps for Android.
An example - I would like something like GarageBand for Android, but we don't see apple jumping to share it with Android now do we?
53. XPERIA-KNIGHT posted on 28 Dec 2012, 06:39 1 2
get real man....i think you know what this is, microsoft has been bashing google for quite awhile now and for Google to do what they're doing is proper and what should be done to someone who thinks they can say what they want then get what they need!
Its not Googles fault that microsoft is basically BEGGING for help now.........sorry but there is no remorse for the arrogant and foolish...
66. haseebzahid posted on 28 Dec 2012, 14:50 0 0
for ur info MS never asked google for any help its people who are saying if even it doesnt compete on wp it can still make apps for it altough i also never found that google apps could make any difference here but i was saying as generic part
30. Luuthian posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:17 3 2
I have to agree with big.e. Windows Phone users should have done the research to know there are no Google apps going in. If your life is dominated by Google applications then you had the opportunity to pick two other phone platforms (both of which are superior IMO).
I understand why people don't feel it's fair that Google won't spread the love, but Microsoft offers directly competiting applications on their devices. And I don't mean simply maps... I mean entire email suites and business apps. These guys are DIRECT competitors; not simply in the cellphone space but the application and business space as well. The last thing Google likely wants to do is A) spend resources to support a platform with a minimal user base and B) give more users a reason to buy a Windows Phone device.
Sorry guys. it's harsh, but you had a chance when your contract ended to pick another platform. You can't whine about the lack of support after the fact. Microsoft has their own map and emails services. Invest in those.
36. androidlikeaboss posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:42 2 1
You're wrong, Google just wants MONEY,just like most companies,so there is no point developing any apps for WP since they are not very popular yet.
65. Goldeneye posted on 28 Dec 2012, 13:24 0 0
I've said this before Google is not cool taking this path on the other side looks like Google is an Apple ass kisser developing good apps for IOS even better than androids how do you explain that? Have you tried Google maps for IOS lately? Works even better than android version! Sure they make the most money off IOS but there's a lot of potential in Windows Phone as well, so Google stop being a.. And give the goodness to everyone is oppeness your philosophy??
5. jphillips63 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:18 5 1
Let MS go use Bing and there stupid services. Yes I'm a windows user on desk top pc but google is my choice for search engines. Microsoft needs to go find there own Devs and create there own App Store since they wanted to take on the mobile world and even put on a display there phones were faster than any android.
26. haseebzahid posted on 28 Dec 2012, 02:21 2 3
defenelty closed minded like google who brags about open OS and open chocie so much for being a mean company fan are you
39. lyndon420 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 04:00 4 3
Ms has tried to rape all Android OEM's, and you think Google owes them a favor? Try again buddy.
67. haseebzahid posted on 28 Dec 2012, 14:55 0 0
guess what MS office is a dimonad and they decided to make it for android i dont think any other suit comes near it and still MS is giving it for android why its bussness nothing has to be taken personal or u are on top next time you cant be its a loop
what exactly u mean by rape oems lolz thats kind of crazy
6. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:23 1 2
I think they should petition MS to drop fees for ActiveSync and other propriety technologies required to allow Google's and MS services work with each other first.
But customers are always right : WP is not viable w/o Google.
7. tigermcm posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:25 6 0
serious question here, if Google doesnt want to share with MS than why the heck is MS sharing with Google?
8. jphillips63 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:32 5 1
The thing is MS needs Google. If they didn't why the heck are they petitioning google to help with services for there products?
14. tigermcm posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:03 4 0
probably because ppl from android complain too much that they dont have the same selection in apps they used to have. I feel maybe we need to stop sharing with google, for example smartglass and office need not be shared with them
21. XPERIA-KNIGHT posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:52 0 5
ummm ok but how bad will that affect us (android)?
Like Jphillips said they need Google, Google doesnt need them.....point blank
Not a matter of arrogance, its just you cant give everyone a piece of the pie unless you too will starve! (metaphor)
29. tigermcm posted on 28 Dec 2012, 02:56 3 0
I just feel that just the same way that Google has exclusive apps MS should do the same......at least they are exclusive for a few months it seems
68. haseebzahid posted on 28 Dec 2012, 14:56 2 0
errr yeah MS is not petiononing its users doing it
9. rusticguy posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:36 4 7
Three worded solution. "Switch to Android" because Android is Wild and uncontrollable :D
10. 23nikki1 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:41 0 0
535 supporters...That's really a very low number...
17. lsguntu posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:18 8 0
May be WP people are least bothered about Google apps?
50. bon24x7 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 06:01 4 0
Shows they don't care about Google products...as simple as that..
69. haseebzahid posted on 28 Dec 2012, 14:58 0 0
except those who left android for wp maybe
63. pookiewood posted on 28 Dec 2012, 09:59 0 0
Oh really? The ONLY Elgoog Service I use is Youtube and I've been using that before Google came in and sh*tted all over the walls with their stupid ads. I don't have 1 Google service on my Lumia 920.
11. techguy22 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:43 1 0
i thought MS supports said they dont need google. i hope google doesnt release crap
Tips_y • 2 hours ago −
So are we now suppose to grovel and beg? No thanks!
Joey Ouk • 2 hours ago
so no to the devil!
Joey Ouk • 2 hours ago −
don't sell your info to the devil!
sumedh • 4 minutes ago −
I don't need shitty google stuff on any of my windows products.
that's just a few comments from them.
64. pookiewood posted on 28 Dec 2012, 10:01 0 1
As a Lumia 920 users and a WP user since WP7 I hope they stay away from the platform. The Last thing we need is more snooping crapware from Google.
13. jroc74 posted on 27 Dec 2012, 23:54 1 0
IMO, Google should make apps available for WP. I dont believe it really hurts Google financially if WP sales are low. I dont think its that difficult to support Google apps for WP. They will still get feedback on any issues.
15. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:10 6 0
WP users can always use Google services in browsers.
b-c Google offers their services for free people tend to think it's natural that Google should do that everywhere.
The truth is Google is a business and a strong WP ecosystem is not in their interests.
16. eharris560 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:14 1 0
@big.e927 MS was apart of that group along with a few other companies.
18. eharris560 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:22 5 0
As a WP user that's one petition I will not be signing. I'm happy with MS offerings. Why would anyone use their services and break the integration is beyond me. You want google use Android or IOS.
19. eharris560 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 00:32 1 0
Y'all need to click the source link, and read the comments. Simply put WP users say no.
22. gazmatic posted on 28 Dec 2012, 01:11 8 0
At first I was like "wat da faq!" then I used M$ and guess what... I dont miss google at all. My gmail syncs in the ME hub, youtube is here, i can sync my google calenders with outlook then outlook with my wp, plus i can sync many online calenders, bing translate is great, plus it's offline and has augmented reality that translates in realtime through the camera, OFFLINE! I just point to a text and it translates. Not only is bing maps good but I have nokia maps, OFFLINE. I hardly use google plus, all my friends are either on viber or whatsapp and skype... When it's all said and done... I dont miss google services at all. I prefer the OFFLINE experience I get with my lumia 920. I honestly never thought I could do with google but here I am
24. eisenbricher posted on 28 Dec 2012, 01:57 5 1
That's true. Google services are overrated and have became so universal that very less people even bother to take a look at other alternatives. Actually if you hit the right spot you can find better services than Google's, just like you mentioned.
I'm not saying that Google needn't release their products on WP, but if they are releasing on iOS, they they should do the same for WP. Or don't release at all on any competitor OS at all. They should make one decision.
The basic fact is, Google sees stronger competition in WP than the iOS. WP is threat to Android, greater than the iOS. That's why the decision imo.
31. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:25 0 0
I think you are partly right here, MS threatens Google (not only Android) while Apple does not.
MS license WP to OEMs so it will compete with Google for OEMs, Apple has different business model of a niche player. Bing also threatens Google core business: search.
The threat is very small now but helping it grow is not a wise thing to do.
40. eisenbricher posted on 28 Dec 2012, 04:08 1 1
That's about right. MS products will see good days if WP manages to grab market share. But yeah gotta admit that Google products will still maintain the huge market share. I don't see MS products gaining major market share in near future.
55. tigermcm posted on 28 Dec 2012, 07:24 2 0
holy smokes you are so right........*tells fiance to read comment*. my fiance has complained over and over about why WP doesnt have this and that since I moved her from droid. I got tired of our one note lists crashing and not updating properly. It always happened when she tried doing something to the list in her stupid droid. we have lists for shopping, our son, school, hobbies and gosh darn it just that one thing pissed me off to the point i bought a WP out right to get her off droid. lately she has calmed down about the complaining and realized hey I didnt even use all that crap...... end of my rant lol
23. gazmatic posted on 28 Dec 2012, 01:48 3 0
It has less than 1000 meaning that: 1. this is not a news story because it's not a major issue. 2. It is those select few of "power users" from android that obviously dont want to adopt a new ecosystem. I dont use google drive that often, I would prefer dropbox but I have 25gb of FREE skydrive. For google calendar there is outlook. For google maps there is bing maps and nokia maps. Bing translate is awesome. Two words... Actually three: offline augmented reality. Google is not missed on wp. Those 700 signatures should just go back to android if they wont even use wp alternatives.
27. Edmund posted on 28 Dec 2012, 02:28 6 1
I can't stop laughing everytime I see android fanboys like michael H complaining about the lack of data-mining google services on Windows Phone. This would be a problem if Microsoft didn't offer a decent alternative, but in most cases the MS solution is actually better than the google option: SkyDrive, Outlook.com (with Mail for Exchange and Calendar Syncing that actually work), Office Mobile, Office 365, Nokia Maps with offline turn-by-turn navigation, MetroTube, Internet Explorer 10.
I think the real issue here is that google knows fully well its users are not loyal to the android platform, so why give them a reason to make the switch to Windows Phone.
37. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:45 0 3
Nokia maps and Google Maps come head to head on iOS:
- Nokia never cracked top 1000
- Google instantly became No. 1 after return.
On big things Nokia maps is ok, but when it comes to details it sucks badly. And details are what people need, not gerneral stuffs.
WP have similar apps but the difference is quality, that's why all WP phones cannot sell w/o heavy discounts.
44. eisenbricher posted on 28 Dec 2012, 04:22 3 1
Nokia maps are good for offline Navigation and offer their coverage in many more countries than Google maps.
Google maps offer very detailed information. Yeah I prefer Google in City, while use Nokia maps when I'm driving to other town.
Similar story here, both are complimentary so I use both of them.
47. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 28 Dec 2012, 04:55 2 0
Nokia use vector data format so their files are smaller and better for off line use.
Google use same data format for their maps on iOS and I expect Goole will soon do that to all their maps.
28. lumia920 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 02:43 3 3
microsoft should block google and all of its services on windows and windows phones.
33. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:30 0 0
MS will have to pay billions of dollars in fines if they do what you advise.
And you put MS interests before billions of Google users in the world?
41. eisenbricher posted on 28 Dec 2012, 04:11 1 1
I'm a MS+Nokia supporter but what you say doesn't make sense.
32. lubba posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:28 3 0
I'm not sure what google has that's so magical and out of this world that people need them. MS has search, maps, calendar, office, etc., all sync on WP easily and with simplicity. All that is need from google is YouTube, not a dedicated app, but the API for WP devs like lazyworms who built metrotube. Apparently Google makes trouble for these devs 2-3 times a year where google makes changes to YouTube therefore making 3rd party YouTube apps useless.
35. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 28 Dec 2012, 03:36 1 3
Come on dude, what is special about Windows? Linux can replace Windows easily if not b-c of MS anticompetitive practices.
Do a search with Bing and Google and compare the results: it's night and day.
42. eisenbricher posted on 28 Dec 2012, 04:15 1 1
Google is unchallenged for products such as YouTube, detailed maps and extensive search.
While MS takes pride in Enterprise products like MS office, Mail for Exchange.
Both are complimentary to each other.
49. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 28 Dec 2012, 05:08 2 0
MS rule when it comes to enterprise, that's why Andoid still has to pay fees for ActiveSync to access Outlook.
But MS clearly sees the danger from Google on this front. The key for enterprise is security for the data and easy sharing and Google Docs and Drive offer just that.
I think the key here is creativity and I expect Google to be a great option next to MS Office.
43. allen83 posted on 28 Dec 2012, 04:19 0 3
wow MS fans now have a petition on google. And in return what will MS do? They would bully google so they would get down nice move MS. DO you know the news about Scroogle that is MS doing so google just play with MS in their own tactics