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Oh, snap! Ex-Apple exec says Stephen Elop should be sacked as Nokia should've gone Android

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Oh, snap! Ex-Apple exec says Stephen Elop should be sacked as Nokia should've gone Android
Jean-Louis Gassée, a former Apple and HP executive, said in an interview that he advised Nokia two years ago to gradually phase off Symbian and adopt Android as its main mobile OS. He also requested that they fire the current exec Kallasvuo for failing to recognize the threat that iOS and Android posed, even at the time.

While the board was already dissatisfied with the ragtag strategy that Nokia had since Kallasvuo took helm in 2006, they said Nokia will lose its identity if it goes Android. Jean-Louis Gassée had the following to say to that:

I told them to drop everything and go Android. Do it in secret and let the rumours fly... I would have used Nokia's design flare to make very nice phones. I would integrate Ovi [Nokia's app store] into Android and people would say that Nokia sided with the winner. It would have been tough fighting Samsung, though, because Samsung takes no prisoners. They don't brush their teeth in the morning – they file them.
He also commented that Nokia's current CEO Stephen Elop should have been fired for not being able to see the forest from the trees, announcing the partnership with Microsoft too early, and outing the Lumia portfolio with such a short timespan between drastically changed Windows Phone 8, compared to WP Mango, making the current devices obsolete so quickly. "He has zero experience in terms of what makes a smartphone maker tick. And what is his experience in supply chain management? Zero," said Gassée.

Some say that the cards with Nokia fell exactly where Microsoft wanted them, and Stephen Elop's whole purpose was to steer the ship towards Windows Phone at all costs, resulting in the current transitional state of Nokia, yet from the strictly business consulting point of view Jean-Louis Gassée is probably correct that Nokia should have followed his recommendations.

source: Computing

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posted on 05 Jul 2012, 01:58 15

1. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)


Stupid Nokia!

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:02 22

2. tiara6918 (Posts: 2070; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


Nokia, which is better? Loosing your identity or loosing sales?

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:10 28

6. aaronkatrini (Posts: 241; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


They're loosing booth :(

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 03:52 12

22. alterecho (Posts: 1098; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Lol. Seriously though, Nokia deserves better.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 03:54 10

23. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Agreed Nokia lumias have very poor sales as per usual with wp and Nokia is in trouble here sales wise,also most general public i meet daily now say they have heard Nokia smartphone aren't any good. Sales,credibility and identity are almost gone,its a sad affair for the once king Nokia. I've always said an android version of the N8 would have been a top top seller

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 06:19 6

31. shy2papa (Posts: 313; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)


I guess Samsung, HTC, LG, Asus, and other companies who have adopted Android have lost there Identities what a load of crap no offence to Nokia and WP7 or 8 fans, Nokia will go down in history has the most stupid company with so much potential took all that and flushed it down the toilet.

Common sense dictates you don't put all your eggs into one basket and that's what Nokia is doing with Microsoft WP7 or 8 putting all there eggs into an OS that is still unproven and future is still unknown.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 06:27 3

33. Snoobab (Posts: 175; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


People need to stop passing up on Nokia Lumia devices. Windows Phone is SO slick. All they need now is for it to reach critical mass.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 07:29 2

36. Aeires (unregistered)


I've been using Android since the G1. Having said that, if MS would drop the ugly metro tile approach, I would give WP8 a try. Until then, I'll stick to Android and personalizing my electronics as I desire. It may be a super fast and smooth OS, and the apps are finally getting there, but the UI is atrocious looking.

posted on 06 Jul 2012, 02:48

50. Snoobab (Posts: 175; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Try it properly before you knock it.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 11:03 1

42. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


They lost both, given that WP7 has a uniform UI, whereas with Android, Nokia could had done whatever they wanted with the UI. They also would have less restrictions on the hardware so they could put out all the cheap low end devicse they want as well as all the monster high ends, and anything in between, WP7 is just low-mid and mid to choose from really. They could have had a lot more exclusive apps too, whereas on WP7 they have Nokia Maps... and not much else.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:07 6

3. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


So true

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:14 8

8. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


What I am thinking is phase out s40 and putting belle on low end devices .
Keep using windows phone and meego . But with android phones too .
Nokia can share the same hardware between phones , just different OS .
For example n9 that can dual boot meego and ics .
When you 1st buy it you will have to activate the phone at a pc and you can choose whether to install ics or meego on your phone

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 03:44 2

17. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


i strongly agree with you buddy!!! they should phase out the S40! or maybe they just put it on there bar phones! and put the symbian OS to there low end phones!

and they should make MeeGo as there OS for boundery to Mid range OS to high end!

and make WP as the OS of high end or maybe in mid range too and Android for all levels! and make the best android device ever made!!

and even google's nexus cant compete to nokia's Cyborg!

if they do this, samsung might be fighting head to head to them! there is really no challenge on android market... only samsung is the best next is htc then the runner ups.. sony, huawei etc!

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 06:10

30. akbar (Posts: 62; Member since: 09 Feb 2012)


From Fan point of view sounds good but this is horrible business solution. You can not develop so many different platforms simultaneously. Just imagine the testing you will have to put in such case.
If the advanced users "hack" their phone, look for solutions in the internet forums and never call the customer support the average user is not operating like that. When their phone hangs, they call the customer support.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 06:26

32. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


That's true too :(

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 19:30

47. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


true but just look at samsung... they make there low end on there OS and make some bada smartphone and Windows Phone too... and they make an android device that is for all levels!

im just saying that if nokia could have done the same thing...like make there symbian OS as the OS on low end not the S40 because s40 cant do multitasking and few apps on ovi, only 25000 bacause 100000 for symbian and few for meego... if they want to deal with the cheap android, because even cheap android can do multitasking and a great selection of apps!

and they should make there meego as there OS for mid range and let the meego team make a solution to make the android apps ported on the meego.. and this meego is really a hit.. because the OS looks elegant unlike the tizen..

and make WP as there OS for high end!

and make android the OS for all level!as there back up OS!

nokia is still a huge company so i know that they could devide theirselve into team that could make these awesome devices!

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:09 22

4. scnix (Posts: 41; Member since: 01 Jul 2010)


Nokia would've done so well with Android.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:43 5

11. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)


Still we need to see the end product to call this is

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 11:32 1

43. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Well given their history, and that devices like the 808 Pureview and Lumia 900 show they are still capable of making a great device, I don't deny it. They could have really shined with Android on board and some beefed up hardware, but alas it was not meant to be.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:09 9

5. aaronkatrini (Posts: 241; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


WP is very closed OS! I used to love Symbian, since s60v2 and v3, it felt just like Android feels now. I mean you could have all your apps,games,stuff. And it was very open, you could browse files, multitaksing, 3rd party apps for any thing. Thats what makes a perfect OS. Than Apple came with iOS and it made new standards for the Fluidity. And Symbian couldn't keep up. So why no go for Android who CAN give the fluidity so much wanted and also anything else Symbian used to be.
M$ took advantage of Nokia and its going to ruin it :'(

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 03:46 5

18. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


and if they skin the android or base an OS to android, it will be nice!!

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 04:03

24. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


the only thing people want is new things to come up and MS is doing that although they learnt that the hard way from wp6 and 7

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:10 4

7. droidie57 (Posts: 1; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


"It would have been tough fighting Samsung, though, because Samsung takes no prisoners. They don't brush their teeth in the morning – they file them."

Ha! That's my new, favorite quote!!!

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:31 3

9. daniel_bargs (Posts: 325; Member since: 27 Nov 2010)


wish they got Android....all my previous phones and family phones are nokia! ill buy one seriously! but now... ive got an Xperia. sorry nokia. im saying this: you will be bought by another larger company or Nokia maybe nokia will just be a history

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:31 13

10. kartik4u98 (Posts: 511; Member since: 19 May 2012)


Yes Nokia we have always missed you in the Android world...
Please make an entry, we'll definetely support you..!
Like if you wuold buy a nokia android mobile

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 04:08 1

25. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


thing is people are blinded by IOS and Android and they dont look outside these 2 boxes i bet half of u all comenting here never had actually used WP7.5 only heard that it is closed Os i think nokia is risking a lot but the end result is far more competative then any of u guys here can imagine its a new OS that means new options more competion because once some brand comes on top they stop R&D and keep their pace going but when their are competitors they will have to keep the R&D going i will support nokia for their step although it was dangrous but worth the effort WP is actully wonderful OS it dont have to be open for customization it is already so fantastic and easy to use

posted on 08 Jul 2012, 01:54

52. kartik4u98 (Posts: 511; Member since: 19 May 2012)


I've used wp7 but I am confident that it's a very long way wp could smack Android...
iOs is already behind wp...

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:46 3

12. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)


I'd buy a dual boot WP8 / Android Nokia phone this second. Come on Nokia, DO IT!

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 02:54 7

13. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


Actually, Nokia was really unclever to not adopt Android. They could easily do like Samsung: some proprietary phones, some WP phones, some Android phones.

Probably Nokia's deal with Microsoft (250M $) constrained them to WP - or did not allow them to develop Android as they had to "fight" it.

Luckily, Android is holding on. Microsoft and Apple try to kill this free open source beast with their pointless dictature and aren't succeeding and hopefully never will. Biased people that go against a Linux's child are clearly brainwashed or don't understand what is software freedom.

We have now hundreds of top brands that are unifying their efforts to develop a unique OS that is everyone's. On the other hand, we have a brand that sells overpriced products to fund lawyers and destroy this development.

Obviously I want to believe that G will never make Android proprietary, would be a deal breaker probably.

posted on 05 Jul 2012, 03:51 3

20. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


i think you really make sense, i love MS but they are making my beloved nokia as there own! i hope nokia could break that deal and make android/meego/linux phones!!

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