New York Times confirms WSJ story on Verizon branded Apple iPhone for early 2011
According to the Times, Apple CEO Steve Jobs is motivated to end his exclusivity deal with AT&T because of the strong momentum behind the Android platform. Google's open source OS has been gaining market share at the expense of the Cupertino based firm's handset. Unlike the iPhone, which has been wedded in the U.S. to AT&T since its 2007 launch, Android phones are available from each of the top four U.S. carriers and encompass a wide range of models from entry level to high-end units.
The information was given to the paper by an anonymous source who said that the plans were confidential and that he did not want to risk losing his contacts over at Apple. The story says that the device being made is a version of the current release-the Apple iPhone 4-and will be ready for launch early next year.
According to ratings firm Nielsen, over the last 6 months, 32% of the smartphones purchased in the U.S. were powered by Android, compared to the 25% reading for the iPhone. Making the model available for Verizon does two things toi slow down Android's growth. First, it brings a device to Big Red that most of its customers have coveted since its launch on AT&T. Secondly, without Apple's handset, Verizon has pushed Android hard to U.S. smartphone buyers with heavy use of television ads. Once the nation's top carrier has the Apple iPhone in its grasp, we could see a major slowdown in the carrier's Android advertising as it starts to promote its new addition.
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3. cemysh (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 09:09 0
Android Does...Apple Doesnt! If I got a Dollar for everytime someone comes in to the store wanting an iPhone I could retire by now!!
11. sugartittsof69 (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 13:29 0
well i have verizon i had an iphone 4 before and well it wasnt that great because it doesnt have flash player and today in these days many websites out there require flash player to fully enjoy them .. thats why i prefer android .. and so what if i cannot talk and use da internet at da same time on verizon i dnt need that and besides once verizon gets 4G up and running ur gunna be able to talk and use the internet at da same time on 4G i cancelled att cuz it has horrible coverage ,reception in La ... also ill be laughing if metro pcs ends up getting the iphone on there new 4G network and not verizon ...
12. glenscott (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 13:39 0
ey sugar titts i agree with u i dnt think verizon need an iphone i think its doing good without it , and yea i will also be laughing at all those people that want an iphone on verizon and metro pcs ends up getting it instead were i come from (texas) they call metro pcs metro piece of shit lol but ey now that ithink about it imagine this the iphone on metro pcs runnin on 4g unlimited everyhing for 40 bucks!! thats actually starting to sound good .. and since metro has 4g up and running i think they would allow face time to work over 4g not only wifi so imagine it unlimited minutes, unlimited messages unlimited internet at 4G speeds unlimited face time calls on 4G for 40 bucks sounds pretty sweet!!! cmon metro get da iphone!!!
13. britneyj (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 13:47 0
ey i have an iphone 4 on att i admit i luv da phone but coverage sucks and reception is horrible and i pay like 110 bucks a month is not fair . and like the guy above me said iphone on metro pcs is sounding like a good deal right now at 40 bucks a month for unlimited everything cuz right now im kinda broke and i wud totally switch to metro if that happened .
14. Spelling Police (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 14:02 0
First off your spelling of "luv da phone" makes you sound like an idiot. Secondly Metro PCS is a tired crap company. Good luck running the iPhone there. But I now see what the customer base looks like with you 2 clowns on it...
17. antighetto (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 14:28 0
I agree with you, why is everyone so ghetto on here? Saying you "luv da phone" and "get da phone" ...what do they teach in schools these days? Next thing you know they'll be calling this "Lil Phonearena"
24. sugartittsof69 (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 16:10 0
h3y hunny i cud spell how eva da fuk i want ok! ur nobody!!! to tell me how to spell okayy so g3t dat in ur lil head ur nobody !!!!
26. frank snotra (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 18:37 0
could you be a bigger loser? i am surprised you can use a computer. and glance at the mirror if you want to see what nobody looks like. A-hole.
31. Spelling Police Is Lame (unregistered) posted on 10 Oct 2010, 07:19 0
You need a comma after secondly (which isn't even a word). Way to go. Spelling Police fail.
36. Fred (unregistered) posted on 10 Oct 2010, 21:51 0
You might want to check the dictionary... secondly is the adverb form of "second" according to Webster's.
37. JayMoney (unregistered) posted on 10 Oct 2010, 23:40 0
Now that's for damn sure!!!! Stop asking us when we are getting the iPhone! WE DON'T KNOW! And, iDon't care lol. if it happens we will all know because it would be on phone arena lol.
2. clevername posted on 09 Oct 2010, 09:06 0
I don't think we would see a drastic reduction of droid commercials. Apple will probably handle the advertising as they do now. Of course ~IF~ OT comes to verizon … IF.
4. JeffdaBeat posted on 09 Oct 2010, 09:40 0
Verizon is smart. I think Verizon would continue Droid commercials just because you never want to rely on one phone. That's a big reason why AT&T has taken on so many different new kinds of smartphones. They don't want Apple to be their savior anymore...
16. AppleTnT (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 14:07 0
I think Appl ewill run thier own commercial just advertising network possibilities, being able to get it on any network. But Verizon, I think will keep running Droid campaign, considering it was the phone that finally cleared the dust off the iPhone envy.
5. cammian posted on 09 Oct 2010, 09:56 0
AT&T by the way is in some serious trouble!!!! Initial launch day at Verizon is going to be insane and I will be working it hahahaha my check is going to be huge.....I will definitely be hitting quota lol
7. tomorrowisnow (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 10:46 0
You haven't been working for VZW very long. They will adjust your quota and the commission structure. On top of that, near the end of the month you will be introduced to windfall. Don't go buy a BMW just yet genius.
43. lolipopjones posted on 11 Oct 2010, 11:32 0
Yep! Working for VzW the quota on newlines is HORRIFYING! VzW's commission structure is based on newlines, upgrades, data, and accessories per phone. Now when you start you are on quota relief so your gaurenteed money. After that they hit you with a giant newline quota of anywhere between 30 (if your lucky) to 90 newlines and then an equally giant but easy to make upgrade quota. Now the newlines quota is how you make money because if you do not hit that quota you will not make any money. Sad that Alltel was purchased because Alltel reps were the highest payed reps in the industry next to some authorized retailers. Alltel reps easily made 50k while VzW and Att reps hit 30 easier and struggle above that (VzW reps are capped over 60k.).
6. ?????? (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 10:31 0
I like how the CEO of Verizon finally comes out and basically says NO to the iPhone next year. Yet everyone keeps posting articles and saying that it will def be here early next year. Seriously people, were working on starting LTE 4G, why would we bring a CDMA iphone into the picture??? Nothing adds up to the iphone coming out next year. Apple won't break contract with 1 year left and Verizon won't bring in an iphone on a network they're moving away from.
9. jcoberg10 posted on 09 Oct 2010, 12:09 0
why dont' you go ahead an register so you can learn something. CDMA will be around for a LONG LONG TIME!!!!!
28. srs1286 (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 20:37 0
Your reason as to why the Iphone won't come to Verizon is the exact reason why it will. These people are in the business to make money. As we have seen it done before... get people to buy an outdated CDMA version of the phone, then update it 8 months later and make everyone buy it again. Cha Ching
45. ????? (unregistered) posted on 11 Oct 2010, 19:29 0
Thats why everyone that uses CDMA in the United States is going away from it ( Sprint, Verizon and Metro Piece of shit), right???? I wish I could register and be smart like you.
46. ?????? (unregistered) posted on 11 Oct 2010, 19:32 0
Why do you think all of these rumours have been coming more and more? Apple won't break contract, so they're starting all these rumours to try and slow down sales of Android. It's not to hard to figure this out. Verizon wants nothing to do with the iPhone if they want as much control as they requested the first time around. Not to mention Verizon didn't like the signal issues with the phone when they first tested it. Obviously both of those things haven't changed, so even when they're out of contract it won't come right away.
10. Evo owner (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 12:11 0
Think its a little to late apple. You guys had more then enough time to take over with the iphone. You but you wanted to stay with att for how ever many years and let someone else come on the field. To me it's your own fault come in and get more sales then what you guys are getting. If you wouoldn't have locked your self down two one company you woudln't be scrambling to get more sales. Should have released iphones on all 4 carriers from the start and you would have won the smart phone war!!
21. VZWbamf posted on 09 Oct 2010, 15:53 0
I agree, just like Samsung did with the Galaxy S series... There is a Galaxy S variant with all 4 carriers and they all lunched around the same time.
15. Gawain posted on 09 Oct 2010, 14:04 0
"Now, we can add the New York Times to the list of prestigious media outlets" ...Prestigious? The New York Times? A living embodiment of yellow journalism? Really guys.... Let's assume for a moment that the iPhone does make it to VZW - I won't lie, I would be tempted by it. But the obvious deluge of subscribers and demand will really have me sit back and watch. Somewhere I read that nearly a third of the iPhone users on AT&T would jump ship to VZW if possible. So, let's assume that's about 4M people. Then you'll have those that are on VZW and will jump right in - let's be conservative, and pretend that the supply could meet the demand - another 4M subscribers (new or existing) on top of the AT&T migration over the course of say, three months. What I want to see if whether VZWs network can really handle the load. They've clearly made sizable investments - this is where the rubber would meet the road. Can you imagine working in the NOC during the early days of such an event and seeing the spike in network activity? lol!!
18. cellgeek82 posted on 09 Oct 2010, 14:38 0
One thing I'm curious about is due to Verizon's 3G network being slower than AT&T's, I wonder if that will factor how well the bandwidth holds up. Think about it, if a customer is downloading a song, by the time their song finishes downloading others had time to be downloading something too thus adding to more people on the tower. With a faster speed the customer would be finished faster and not needing to access the tower as much. I'd imagine that a slower speed would result in more people using the tower longer. I tried to make this easy to read. It's just food for thought. I'm not saying Verizon's network couldn't hold up but I think AT&T's network being faster (and even faster with HSPA+) has an advantage when it comes to how long it takes to finish your transmission.
19. Gawain posted on 09 Oct 2010, 15:29 0
VZW within the limitations of EV-DO, has more bandwidth, but less throughput than AT&T. AT&T's 3G, has more throughput (faster) but less bandwidth (not enough capacity to meet demand). HSPA is faster than the 3XRTT/EVDO standard, but AT&T's problems is network density because the whole of GSM standards is time based, not code based. I look at the question in simpler terms: Would you rather have a slower, wider coverage, or faster, narrower coverage? Up here in Northern California, once you're outside of the Bay Area, Sacramento area, and start heading north on I-5, it's a matter of minutes before you notice AT&T drop to EDGE, T-Mobile drops to GSM/GPRS only. My VZW is showing full bars of 3G. Either way it would be interesting to see. I still don't think the iPhone is coming to VZW anytime soon...I could be wrong, but the rumors are the same every time - some analyst looks at a supplier's activity and some how connects dots...yada yada...
22. VZWbamf posted on 09 Oct 2010, 15:56 0
To my knowledge, VZW has invested about $600M strictly in EVDO capacity within the network, just since 2009. It sounds like they are trying to prepare for an increased data load.
23. cc16177 posted on 09 Oct 2010, 15:57 0
I wouldn't be surprised if all of these "analysts" making these decisions were sort of the equivalent of the people who "leaked" pictures of the new iPhone etc... the carriers don't want to be the ones saying the iPhone is coming to Verizon but they don't want the rumors dying entirely so they actually produce these articles to keep the demand there.
25. Fanboykiller (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 16:36 0
Is 2012 yet.....???
41. cemysh33 posted on 11 Oct 2010, 09:46 0
Imagine this...iPhone label on...wait for it.....a BRICK!!! I know its GOLD I tell you GOLD$!$!$! Its gonna be the top paper weight with apps tons of apps!!
27. mr. droid posted on 09 Oct 2010, 20:33 0
this is hilarious. what the hell is the big deal about iPhone? what is the appeal of it? i dont get it.
33. Ggenov (unregistered) posted on 10 Oct 2010, 12:56 0
Well considering the droid copied the iPhone (app store, multitouch, webkit web browser, springboard) I think you understand exactly the appeal of the iPhone.
29. Shark (unregistered) posted on 09 Oct 2010, 21:05 0
I think some of you are missing the point with the Iphone to Verizon. Its all about big business and money. Thats why outlets like the Wall Street Journal, a newspaper many of you probably dont read, and Bloomberg have picked up on the story. These arent slapnuts newsmakers or run of the mill info websites; these are legit media forums that have been around long before cell phones were ever introduced. If Verizon gets the IPhone, it has nothing to do with a CDMA network. It will be the flagship device for their LTE network, which will be live in about 30 major market cities by the end of this year. Everyone knows the CDMA IPhone is for China; thats why all of the legitimate media outlets discusing the Iphone arent talking about any specfiic company making phones or certain numbers of phone being ordered. The fact that there is no real info on a Verizon Iphone, yet major money market media is reporting on it means that things are very much in play behind the scenes and something is brewing. Its about stock, its about capital, its about money. Its happening. It doesnt matter about AT&T's exclusive contract, which can be bought out, just like most any other type of contract. Its not about what network bandwith Verizon does or doesnt have. Its about the dollar and if Apple and Verizon know that there is a billion dollars to be had in the 2011 1st quarter, theyre gonna make it happen. You dont have to like it, you dont have to get one when it happens, but best believe that its going to.
30. Gawain posted on 09 Oct 2010, 22:05 0
You make valid points (and I do indeed read WSJ every day on my BB). What is missing from this is that this is not the first time that the iPhone and VZW have been mentioned in the same article by WSJ or any number of other publications. Everyone is in agreement that VZW and Apple would make a sh*t-ton of money if the iPhone or some Apple variant were offered on Big Red. Still don't think it will be the iPhone though. Yes contracts can be bought, if the provisions are there, but with AT&T's weaknesses in coverage and what would be horrible subscriber growth were it not for the iPhone, AT&T isn't going to let go until they absolutely have to. Isn't it interesting that the next generation iPad isn't being mentioned in all this... ;-)
39. ayephoner posted on 11 Oct 2010, 05:05 0
38 markets. I sure hope this thing is 4G, but there has already been press saying its not. Plus, it doesnt sound like something apple would do. theyre normally a bit behind on something like this.
32. tkfox007 (unregistered) posted on 10 Oct 2010, 12:48 0
Why is it that everyone is confirming it except for Verizon and Apple? We've been hearing this same story for years and it's always confirmed by someone who has confidential information or has inside information. When Steve Jobs goes on stage and say that the iPhone is coming to Verizon, then I'll believe it.
34. pingpong posted on 10 Oct 2010, 14:25 0
"The information was given to the paper by an anonymous source who said that the plans were confidential and that he did not want to risk losing his contacts over at Apple." This could have been someone's neighbor's uncle's coworker that is just making it all up. Let's all just start writing letters to the New York Times making up more rumors!
35. lxmndza posted on 10 Oct 2010, 16:22 0
All I have to say is R.I.P Android!!! Everyone will drop their Droids for a VZW iPhone that's fo sho!!!
38. androiduser (unregistered) posted on 11 Oct 2010, 02:49 0
Android is not going anywhere. My question is if the iphone does come to verizon who will profit more, apple or verizon. This is the reason verizon didn't take apple in the first place. Apple wants all support over the iphone and a portion of monthly fees that the iphone brings in. If I was verizon I would say no. If every phone manufacturer asked for a portion of the monthly fees verizon would make no money. I personally don't think its fair for apple to ask for money made off of the data plans. what you think?
42. cemysh33 posted on 11 Oct 2010, 09:53 0
Imagine this...iPhone label on...wait for it.....a BRICK!!! I know its GOLD I tell you GOLD$!$!$! Its gonna be the top paper weight with apps tons of apps!!
44. VERIZONDEATHSTAR (unregistered) posted on 11 Oct 2010, 12:44 0
The simple fact of it all is that apple is loosing to android. And now jobs wants to give the consumer what they want finally after nobody wants it any more. Looks like the stock is gonna take a hit this christmas. This is where you genius marketing scheme comes crashing down.