Jolla Mobile to announce first MeeGo phone this year, launch two in 2013?
In an interview with Tech Crunch, Jolla's CEO, Jussi Hurmola, has talked about the company's plans to bring not one, but two MeeGo smartphones to the market next year. One of those smartphones would be targeted to the mass-market, general consumer, while the other will be designed with devs and hackers in mind. That really seems like an ambitious effort, considering that Jolla currently has no more than 50 employees, although they do claim they are hiring "aggressively".
Interestingly, in a later interview with IntoMobile, CEO Hurmola almost denied to have referred to two devices. Apparently, what he had meant was that they want their devices to appeal mainly to the general consumer, but they want devs to enjoy them as well, that's why there will probably be a "developer mode" or something like that. However, that doesn't mean that we won't see devices soon. Thankfully, the CEO and co-founder of Jolla has said that the company's goal is to announce its first smartphone later this year. Launch timing, however, has not been announced.
Jolla Mobile has been founded and is being established as part of Nokia's Bridge plan, which aims to help employees leaving Nokia start up new businesses. Because of that, Jolla won't be completely alone in this crazy mobile world, but we don't really think Nokia will spend too much time babysitting Jolla. After all, Espoo is having more than enough troubles itself at the moment.
What do you think, guys, could Jolla accomplish what Nokia couldn't with MeeGo?
source: TechCrunch and IntoMobile
1. MeoCao (unregistered)
I'm very respectful of Jolla for their loyalty and dedication, but I really think they are too late and the bus has left.
Now Android has matured and is doing great there is really no space left for Jolla.
6. dexter_jdr (Posts: 892; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
if jolla gives a better impact to people, they might handle the competition.eventually
7. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
At least, for now, they are more knowledgeable of where android failed before and not to go over those boundaries.
8. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
your approach is purely childish. In your opinion it's better to sit tight and do nothing. Let google be a new monopolist. I don't want android. I want something new. There is always space for fresh ideas. Deal with it.
13. Aeires (unregistered)
When Android was first released, there was RIM, Symbian, WinMobile, iOS, Palm, and a small amount of others. People could have said there was no space left for Android when it was first released.
As long as any mobile OS brings something beneficial, there's room for it.
16. MeoCao (unregistered)
Hey guys, I know how you feel. But remember without support of limiless power of Google Android was nothing before the acquisition.
Who will produce Jolla phones?
And at what volumn and cost?
Can you guys see how RIM are struggling? Do you thing people at RIMs are so much worse than Jolla? And RIM is much more powerful too.
18. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Lol, your comment is simply not so into technology. As technology changes, so is the products that comes along with it(operating systems). You can never say never for other OSes to come and join the party. And you can never say that a market is crowded. There's always a room for everything.
21. MeoCao (unregistered)
It is very safe for you to say like that. Windows and Mac domination is almost complete and there was no1 who could challenge them even with better technology as in the case of IBM.
I think Jolla might have some special tecnology and can make themselves attractive enough to find a buyer, but to challenge the big 3 Jolla needs lots of money for research and development which is beyond annybody's means let alone Jolla.
19. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
first of all, android is open source, and no OEM is tied to android or WP alone, so Samsung, HTC, LG, or even Moto and Nokia could produce Jolla.. It may not be in the same volume as Android or WP.. Look at Samsung and HTC, they did not push as much WP as Android, but they still sell them nonetheless, and people still buy them..
Or maybe RIM? Why not? There is no such thing as impossible.. People said that Quad-core on mobile device is impossible before, but looke where we are now..
It's better late than never, and it's always good to be optimistic than just sitting around doing nothing..
I love android, but I am very much open to any OS that is superior than this. Meanwhile, the only one that is superior in terms of functionality and look is only MeeGo, but heck, it was a stillborn.. Glad to see the mother going to conceive another baby soon, even without the father..
22. MeoCao (unregistered)
You are right that Android is open source, but there are many features that depend on Google's technology that cannot function without access to Google servers as in the case of Google Now and Voice search. And the strength of Google is innovation that forked Android just cannot keep up with and so cannot compete.
In case of Amazone they can rely on their ecosystem for now, but once Google builds up their Play Store I'm sure Amazone forked Android will go by the wayside.
23. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
If you think that one OS should use Google's tech, then why the hel can iOS and WP be around? You can function even without Google's tech. And who can say that Jolla will not be able to purchase licencing from Google to use its search functions? And MeeGo did it without Google, why can't they now?
The only problem I have with your comments is, you don't know the future and yet you already say that Jolla won't succeed. There is always a possibility. Remember Quantum Physics, even the once thought impossible is actually possible.
25. MeoCao (unregistered)
I never say that any OS must use Google technology, but I do mean that an OS must be supported by a lot of technologies.
MS and Apple have their own technologies, but Jolla does not. What they can do is license from others but I do not believe MS, Apple and Google will do that. Nokia and RIM can but I don't believe their technologies are good enough.
Of course I do not know the future, but I guess we can make predictions. I can be wrong, and may be Jolla has some suprise for us all, but I as can see I can't think of any plausible ways for Jolla to do it. Can you see any?
27. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
I believe that a successful os can be made through two ways, great innovation and new tech (in my oppinion android) or amazing advertizing that makes people want your product (ios). I think what Jolla should do, although they probably won't, is to show Intel, or any other major company, that they do have potential. Then this company will support them. Maybe they can advertise their os well with this larger company's support. Than as long as they have at least one thing they can advertise as their own they can start to grow. As they grow they will become less dependent on the company that supports them. Than now that they have a name brand and more money, they can create true innovation. With a smart advertising board and a few right decisions, I could see meego eventually being a successfull os. Although you need help at first you can always eventually run on your own. Right now Jolla needs support. But I believe that they have a good enough product to get it.
29. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
oh, so now you are saying they have no tech at all? are you saying that MeeGo doesn't have any tech implemented in it?
Are you blind? I am an android fan, but I can say that if MeeGo did really take off, I would have already jumped ship.. Swiping screens as UI, not to mention their brilliant clock, are you saying that Jolla won't have it? It's built by the same people who built MeeGo, how can it possibly don't have the tech? Nokia have the best mobile tech, Symbian is the most stable mobile OS (although it is not as versatile as lets say Android) and Nokia has the best connectivity tech around, even better than apple/RIM.
MeeGo was a substantially different OS with different UX comapred to the others, and I believe that they won't need so many licences. And mostly, those important tech are covered by FRAND, making it also available for Jolla.
In case you forgot, the N9 stirred the developmental section of mobile OS, and that says something about the platform.
I can see one of the many plausible ways Jolla can do it: They can come up with their own hardware, making use of hardware manufacturers to actually build their device. Yes, they might have to struggle financially paying the manufacturers, but it is a necessary evil.
The thing is, how can something that was already a concrete product, and was quite a stir in the industry, not being able to have the slightest chance of making its presence in the mobile industry again?
first, it was already a full-fledge OS in the form of MeeGo
secondly, it did make quite a buzz before
the only thing it needs now is hardware manufacturers and some improvements, they are already doing the latter, and they can easily source the former, especially if the product is higher than what is expected. Look at Intel, they want to enter the smartphone industry as well, bringing x86 instead of the usual ARM chips, why can't they team up with Jolla, especially when MeeGo was part of it before?
There are already options for them, that's why they are willing and dare to get back to the industry. In this kind of business, one would not just enter the field without careful planning.
I just can't fathom your pessimism.
32. MeoCao (unregistered)
So you mean Jolla must be open source? Then they will not have the money to grow: No license fees, no App market. You cling on MeeGo and it is an outdated OS and Android has gone so far ahead now. A little different UI will not convince manufacturers to make such phone.
You want Jolla to use Intel chips, but that's is inferior chips and even Intel will not support Jolla if Jolla is not better than JB.
You think Jolla can build their own device but even if they are successful that will barely enough for them to survive b-c there are myriads of patent fees they have to pay and litigation to fight. The volumn will not be big as they don't have the cash.
The only way to survive for Jolla is something revolutionary, that alone and not the nostalgia for MeeGo can save them. And even that is not enough for them to compete against Android, iOS and WP.
34. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
i didn't say that it should go open source.
It was partly the brainchild of Intel, and there were many companies backing it before Nokia decided to take the gun and shoved it in MeeGo's mouth and pulled the trigger.
what is so different about MeeGo and Jolla now? They have the same people behind them!
And no, it is not some outdated OS when it was regarded as the second best, if not the best OS, well above that of WP and iOS..
Who needs market if you can sideload apps and make 3rd party market? Android has that. GetJar etc. And in case you forgot, MeeGo and Android shared the same Linux base, and i'm pretty sure that Jolla will follow MeeGo, since it is practically the same OS.
And no, Jolla doesn't need to be the same UI as MeeGo, just like Gingerbread is totally different with ICS. And people who have already used MeeGo know how beautiful and intuitive it is to use. Guess what will happen if they manage to make it even more refined?
Your argument that it will not launch as a contender to the rest is because Android has already matured and there is no more room for it.
Guess what? that is one heck of a flawed reasoning.
First of all, Android is nowhere near mature yet. It is still being developed and expanded in terms of looks and functionality.
Secondly, MeeGo was already making a mark in the OS race, and with that base, Jolla will surely be something worth the waiting.
Thirdly, the smartphone market is not dictated by who is already matured and has the biggest market share, but who can capture the attention and has the best in both looks and functionality. Look at Symbian. It was THE mobile OS of choice. Then came out iOS with the better look and better user experience. Guess who is bigger now? Then came along Android. It didn't have the eye-candy like iOS, but was more refined in terms of functionality. It did struggle at first, as it only took off when Froyo was out, but look at them now!
Maybe the only thing that Jolla needs badly is marketing. Not so much about hardware, as there were many parties backing MeeGo before, and most probably be happy to hear the news about Jolla. If Jolla can capture the attention of the market, just like what iOS and Android did, then it can be big. But not because there is no more room, as there will always be a room. How big? That's up to the company how big they want and willing to work hard to expand it.
Read this about MeeGo, the OS produced by the same people running Jolla now:
I never think Jolla as a new OS, Jolla and MeeGo is like ICS to gingerbread, it is its evolution.
28. steelicon (Posts: 306; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
"People said that Quad-core on mobile device is impossible before, but looke where we are now.."
Who said that?! He should be fired! Oh yes, Elop.
Now they are making multi core mobile phones. The irony. LOL!
30. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
Haha, yeah, I also think that Jolla should get intel and then buy Nokia, since Nokia is already failing in terms of share, valuations and sales. That way, they can use intel's chip, Nokia hardware and tech, and most importantly, FIRE ELOP!!!
2. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
GL 2 you guys > Jolla hope your OS will be something everyone will notice *and be compatible for customization like Android :)
4. tigermcm (Posts: 597; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
if Jolla is going to really put in work to get it going again please send some to the States so i can finally test this Meego I hear so much about
5. qwertypoor (Posts: 72; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)
"Now Android has matured and is doing great there is really no space left for Jolla." Dumbest comment of the day so far fanboys smh there's no space left really? Lol
9. nishant (Posts: 5; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Yes ther is much space left for new growing Jolla.....
Best luck u guys
Common Jolla Kolla....
10. tigermcm (Posts: 597; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
i laughed a lil when i read that. isnt there tizen and firefox coming out too? i didnt hear theres no space for them
17. MeoCao (unregistered)
Tizen is used by companies like Samsung.. as a check to Google power and there will not be a serious Tizen phone while SS still has such success with Android.
Firefox is different platform than Android and can make phones cheaper and compete on price and nothing more.
Jolla can go the way of Firefox but then it's meaningless in term of technology.
11. Jericho (Posts: 302; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
This is the back up plan! If jolla is successful nokia buys jolla. Simple.
12. steelicon (Posts: 306; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
I'd rather have Jolla + Intel + MeeGo buy NOKIA. So they can have their own factory like Samsung.
20. bayusuputra (Posts: 939; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
couldn't agree more..
Since they already plan to kill Symbian, and that stupid Elop is having an affair with microsoft, spinning the company's software innovations down, Jolla+Intel+MeeGo should buy Nokia and bring them up again.. and fire Elop..
14. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1437; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
I'm glad to see them moving forward, MeeGo is trully a great OS
15. -RVM- (Posts: 329; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Maybe this will be my future phone after 808.
24. marchels14 (unregistered)
jeej at last someone saved MEGO, stupid Nokia killed Symbian because it is harder to bring power and OS together idiots.
26. shadez10 (Posts: 381; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Finally!.. more MeeGo Phones!.. i really like MeeGo OS... looking forward to some great devices... =D
31. Ridwan.yahya (Posts: 19; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
best of luck for jolla, i hope they can heat up the competition in mobile industry....
33. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5479; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
if they show it @CES i'm their. Fck NOKIA CEO that kills MEEGo. can't wait to see it