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Google sued over its location tracking activities

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Google sued over its location tracking activities
The location tracking scandal is in full swing, and the latest twist in it is that two users of the Android-powered HTC Inspire 4G have filed a lawsuit against Google. The foundation of their claims is that their phones allegedly tracked and stored their movements "just as if by a tracking device for which a court-ordered warrant would ordinarily be required."

The complaint was filed on April 27 in Detroit. The plaintiffs in this case want to represent other Android users who think Google is violating their rights with its location tracking activities, which may result in a class action lawsuit, similar to the one that was filed against Apple for the very same reasons.

The plaintiffs are seeking "at least $50 million in damages and a court order requiring Google to stop tracking its products’ users."

Google refused to comment on the lawsuit.

Both Apple and Google are to testify in a Senate hearing concerned with consumer privacy on mobile devices. The hearing is scheduled for May 10.

In an e-mail dated April 27, the Mountain View-based company's spokesman Chris Gaither said that lawmakers don't have to be worried about Google's collection of data, stating that "we provide users with notice and control over the collection, sharing and use of location", while adding "any location data that is sent back to Google location servers is anonymized and is not tied or traceable to a specific user."

source: Bloomberg

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posted on 29 Apr 2011, 10:07 6

1. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Well, Gemini, you were right about at least one thing: there's opportunists everywhere. 50 million in fucking damages? These two idiots don't deserve Android.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 10:54 2

6. jogutier (Posts: 324; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)

Maaaaan, 50 million in damages. What people will do for money just racks my brain. LOL!

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 12:57 3

14. messiah (Posts: 438; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)

i love android, but understand the terms here.... Class action ... would mean 50 million divided between to 300 million android users..... means we would all get pennies from google.... big deal... id rather google kept up with annonymous info gathering and making great products...

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:38

17. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Hahahahahaha, sorry. It's a simple chain reaction. Opportunists from the other camp see the opportunity, and they go for it as well.

But just like Apple, this will get them nowhere. The lawyers win in the end. Those android users will get ZERO. I can't believe they even put a price tag. That would even attract more android users to join the class suit. Oh well.

Like I said, don't throw a rock to glass house when you live in a glass house yourself :)

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 15:36

24. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Well, if you recall, I thought that the lawsuit was fucking stupid too. I know how little class actions solve, and Apple DID respond and say they were fixing the issue. Both of the lawsuits will be utter fails, hopefully.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:46 2

19. Hallucinator (Posts: 367; Member since: 24 May 2010)

The don't deserve android line is just ridiculous. Kind of makes you sound 13.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 10:14 1

2. Rich (unregistered)

o goodness gracious. all people these days want is reasons to try and sue for free money.....

HAS LOCATION TRACKING EVER HURT ANYONE!?? give it up with these "at least $50 million in damages"

god darn money sniffers.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 11:29

7. dex-4 (Posts: 22; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

It's not about the money, but about the principal. If you sue google for $1 do you think they will care. No.

How much of this information do you think has been sold to other companies? Probably enough to make up the $50 million.

Has it hurt anyone if the government listens in on everyone's telephone conversations? Probably not, but no one wants that.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 11:37 3

8. Rich (unregistered)

i hate to say it... but nobody is making people use these devices. you buy the product and agree to its use.... you cant go around sueing them now. just dont use them if you dont like it.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 12:28

13. dex-4 (Posts: 22; Member since: 09 Dec 2010)

So what do you call a company that takes information from you without your knowledge?

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:14

16. this guy (unregistered)

its stupid for them to sue cuz the information they take is harmless unless your running from the law then ok that sucks but u agree to the terms and activate the locating gps so u just agreed to google to follow you....these guy are a bunch of idiots and any who agree is too....just saying

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:44 1

18. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Hey Mr paranoid. It's called service improvement. And the data that actually goes back to them are anonymized.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 15:38 1

25. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Whoa, shit, someone take a screenshot! Gemini is keeping an argument of his consistent and applying it to Google! :D

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:58

22. Hallucinator (Posts: 367; Member since: 24 May 2010)

Google, Microsoft, Apple ETC....Oh you meant metaphorically. I give up...What?

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:00 2

15. messiah (Posts: 438; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)

no body is making them buy them.. but when they do buy them under the assumption they are gertting a great product ... the clerk doesn't say "so long privacy"

no one finds out till they are home, after the first charge up.... and WHO READS THE FIFTY PAGES of google or android user license agreements????? they are written only to confuse you and irritate you enough simply to agree and move on to start playing with apps....

posted on 01 May 2011, 04:14

41. Dragan (unregistered)

Yes I agree to its use but I don't remember they said anything about tracking us before we bought their phones, wright?

posted on 01 May 2011, 20:19

43. verizontech8902 (unregistered)

look, the thing here is that when you first setup your android, you have a choice to enable or disable the google location services. If ya'll don't understand the terms associated with the service, then don't "AGREE" to the terms. C'mon people. I guess sense ain't so common.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 10:19 2

3. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

they dont have a case. these idiots obviously found a lawyer that doesnt know that Android asks for concent before tracking anything and its completly anonnymous and just the last few places. Unlike apple that doesnt give an opt out and tracks everything you do.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:47 2

20. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Lol :)

Can't blame them for trying. It became a HUGE deal, when it's not. Thanks to you fandroids. You're the ones who poured gas into a small fire thinking that it wouldn't catch up on you. Well it's been blown out of proportions now, and guess who's house is on fire now as well? :)

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 15:21 3

23. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)

You are such a full-time victim. iOS tracking is still a big deal no matter what happens to these two idiots. They pressed "Yes" or "Allow" when advised that their phone uses location data. In a nutshell, they agreed to the terms and conditions. You can decline for any app to use you location but iOS STILL saves your data. Apple admitted that it's a bug! Many Android users, including myself, even said it was too early to file lawsuits against Apple for what is a fixable problem. But that doesn't matter to you because you are always such a victim you just had to come in and say, "nah, nah-nah, nah, nah, nah.". But again, the difference is my phone told me what it was doing and when I told it to stop, it stopped. A simple little thing, turning off your location, but something you will never be able to do...until you join the darkside. Ha ha. Muha ha! Muha hahahahahaaaa! LUKE! I am your fath...okay i'll stop now.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 15:40

26. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

You mean until he joins the crew of Serenity? ;)

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 17:36 1

28. this guy (unregistered)

na jopin the android side the dark side....we offer cookies and full benefts on like those followers of the icrap

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 20:28 1

33. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)

I don't know if he'd fare well in Serenity. He's too serious.

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 00:50 1

36. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

And too disconnected from reality. Even River would take one look at his mind and say "Holy shit, is he on DRUGS?!"

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 10:23 2

4. Lunchbox (unregistered)

I dont get it, if you look on the front and back end of the android platform, it asks you every time you setup do you want to enable google location tracking..... if you dont say no and turn off your gps until you need it. Every carrier has been tracking cell phones since they started Via towers it just doesnt make sense that people think this is a big chance for money. Get a job.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 10:45 1

5. cybervlad81 (Posts: 89; Member since: 04 Apr 2011)

I know right? The carriers, for years, won't even allow a phone to be put on their network that doesn't have some kind of traceability. And even before that they still had an idea of where you were just by tower traffic alone, though much less accurate.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 11:43 1

9. MorePhonesThanNeeded (unregistered)

Wow, only in america! These two idiots might want to switch this suit from Google to their cellphone company, as your phone company knows where your phone is as long as you have signal. It's how you get your calls and data, which is tacked via your MEID. What is this crap? Like these guys sat in their mom's basement and came up with this halfcocked idea and found a legal representative who knows quite a lot about the industry to take on this case. Wonder what will happen?

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 11:48 1

10. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Knowing the kind of assholes who would do this, I'm guessing it's more like a middle aged couple.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 11:55 1

11. badfish (unregistered)

Theese idiots agree to be tracked when turning on location services on any android phone. They dont deserve anything

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 11:57 1

12. bossmt_2 (Posts: 449; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)

Monkey see monkey do, they are hoping for a settlement, but considering google has an army of lawyers on retainer, I'm sure this case will be thrown out by the end of the week.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 13:51 3

21. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Now watch fandroids on the defensive, hahahahaha. Love it.

But still. I have nothing against Google and Apple collecting data from users as long as it's anonymized. They are doing this to provide better services that users would benefit from, and I can't believe these idiots are suing for something that's supposed to improve the performance of their devices. Ayayayyyyy.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 15:42 2

27. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Why don't you go back to the Apple lawsuit story and count how many people voted for that suit as a good idea? (Those laughing at the irony of sue happy Apple getting sued by its customers don't count).

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 17:44 1

29. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Exactly my point. It's like kids complaining about their parents meddling so much and taking what parents do negatively, not realizing that parents do it for a good reason.

Both Apple and Google collect those data not because they can have something to gossip about the following day about where you went last night. They're gathering those data so they can even improve on their services. As a user, we need to give them a degree of trust that they won't expose us to trouble or harm. They will make mistakes in the process, but that's just how it is.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 18:09 2

31. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

You aren't listening. Just like a little kids, you see only what you want to see. I said go back and count, because I want to make the point that the majority of us, despite our loathing for Apple's business practices, thought the suit was a stupid idea, and only helpful if Apple would not othwlerwise solve their "software bug."

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 22:07 2

35. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Geez Louisse. Give Apple a little break. They did say they're going fixing it. My goodness. Take some chill pill or something, or get laid, you need it, bwahahahahahaha

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 00:55 1

37. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

First off, I got laid more recently than you probably have.







posted on 30 Apr 2011, 00:56 1

38. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

And my current emotion can be best expressed as a long, tired facepalm and a drawn out sigh through my nostrils.

posted on 29 Apr 2011, 18:04

30. IOS5 (unregistered)


posted on 29 Apr 2011, 20:04 2

32. rafaelinus (unregistered)

Deserve android? What the ffff... seriously?. Can somebody \deserve\ Android? XDDDD
You nerds xD

posted on 30 Apr 2011, 06:46 2

39. Izoe (Posts: 131; Member since: 02 Sep 2010)

@Gemini, you obviously don't understand what sniggly is saying. he said you should go back to other posts about apple and read them again so you would see that peoples complaint was about Jobs response. All they said he should have said is "sorry there is a problem we're going to fix it", instead Of saying its goolge not us. Which some other sensible person at apple did at the end of the day. i owned a 3gs(now with my little bro) and now a galaxys so i appreciate objectivity in posts and not fanboyism. i thot u always whine about android fans posting comments under apple articles, but here you are doing the same thing

posted on 01 May 2011, 11:08 1

42. Followasmile (unregistered)

you have to physically opt in to the Google location services so the whole basis of this lawsuit is completely ridiculous. These idiots HAD to say YES i want Google to anonymously collect data about my location. It is one of the FIRST things you have the option of checking or not checking when setting up your phone. Not only that, but you also have the option of turning it on and off at your discretion under settings. There is absoblutelt NO basis for this lawsuit. I get th Apple ones, because you don't have the option, but with Google, YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE IT YOURSELF.

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