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Did the Apple iPhone outsell Android at AT&T's corporate locations by nearly 8 to 1 this month?

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Did the Apple iPhone outsell Android at AT&T's corporate locations by nearly 8 to 1 this month?
According to a source for the Mac Observer, the Apple iPhone represented a large part of AT&T's sales this month. From December 1st through the 27th, two-thirds of the carrier's sales were for Apple's iconic touchscreen device if the information passed along by the tipster is correct. Based on that information, AT&T's iPhone sales outnumbered the combination of all of the carrier's Android phones by 7.8 to 1.

According to Mac Observer, 981,000 copies of the iPhone were sold by AT&T for the month through this past Tuesday while at the same time 126,000 Android handsets were sold by the second largest carrier in the country. Some might consider the numbers to be incorrect considering that the source claims that AT&T's sales of featurephones at 128,000 units was greater than Android sales.

The Apple iPhone greatly outsold Android at AT&T corporate stores in December

The Apple iPhone greatly outsold Android at AT&T corporate stores in December

It must be understood that the sales figures are for corporate stores only. This would eliminate phones sold at authorized resellers, telephone and website orders, and other stores that carry AT&T phones like Best Buy and Radio Shack. The fact that these stats only are for a small fraction of AT&T's overall sales might account for the overly lopsided nature of the figures. In addition, Android models own a greater than 50% share of the U.S. smartphone market which would make the nearly 8 to 1 ratio seem unlikely.

AT&T has sold  more than 6 million units of the Apple iPhone in the last two quarters and expects to do even better in the current three month period. The three models of the phone offered by the carrier, the Apple iPhone 4S, iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS accounted for 56% of AT&T's sales in Q3 and if Mac Observer's source is right, that figure rises to 66% in Q4 at AT&T's corporate locations. Featurephones come in next at 8.6% of AT&T's sales with Android third at 8.5%. We might have to see a listing of all of AT&T's quarterly sales before we can come to a legitimate conclusion.

source: MacObserver via electronista

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posted on 31 Dec 2011, 03:17 19

1. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


A) BS.

B) of course iphone sales are going to be high for the quarter (but not that high), the i4s just launched. talk to me again in 4 months when its old hat to whatever the new android flagship is.

c) even if by off chance from a cold day in hell those number were accurate its one carrier in the world. android is activating at a rate of almost 3 to 1 at this point.. even on december. if its that good for apple at ATT that means its that bad somewhere else to make up the difference.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:21 12

17. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


A). Lol!! Android users are so funny. Look how quick you are to call it BS. Whenever Android users read good news about iPhone, I imagine them closing their eyes, shaking their heads and whispering "No, no, nope, android is the best, no way, can't be true, impossible, I won't accept this...."

B.) Why are Android users always living in the future?? You currently having amazing devices like the Galaxy SII, the Droid RAZR, the Galaxy Nexus, etc and you're talking about flagship android devices 4 months from now? Wow, sounds like you're throwing in the towel early for Android's current devices. And P.S., in 4 months the iPhone would be half a year old. I'd expect a brand new Android handset to sell better.

C.) I don't think Android sales were higher in December. A recent report said that iOS and Android activated 6.8 million devices on the 25th. Andy Rubin said there were 3.7 million activated Android handsets on the 24th AND 25th. If we assume about 2/3rds of Android devices were activated on the 25th, then that would be about 2 - 2.5 million devices on the 25th, leaving 4.3 - 4.8 million for iPhone. This would mean that throughout the month of December, more people were purchasing iPhones than Android phones, which would support some theories and articles (like the one with the growing Android marketshare in economically unstable UK) that Android is in many ways a bargain platform.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:40 9

20. quakan (Posts: 1160; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


@E.N. I agree with you. I don't' see why it always has to be such a big deal if the iPhone outsells android devices or vice versa. It's like it's a crime that someone could possibly have a personal preference other than what someone else chooses. With hundreds of Android phones on the market from high end to low end versus 3 possible iPhone choices, I would think that if you did a platform war that Android would come out on top. Instead of a platform war, why not a manufacturer war? I'm sure Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc don't care about Android market share, they only care about how many of their phones are sold. Let's not forget that only Apple produces iOS phones and that Android phones are made by many manufacturers.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 13:40 2

26. LawrenceTheMute (Posts: 2; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


I work for att.... this graph might represent core stores because they had the iphones in stock so people HAD to go there to get them. however on the retailer side... it was android all the way, they represented 3/4 of my sales with messaging phones and iphones mixed together at 1/4 of the sales.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 13:51 5

28. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol... the future .. the sg2 has been outselling the i4 in the bulk of countries since its launch. My point was the increase is because the phone is new and it will subside in a few months when it's not.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 19:44 2

43. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@remix. When did sgs2 outsell the ip4s? It could not even outsell the ip4, much more the ip4s, lol. Oh yeah, in fandroid land it did :-)

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 00:12 2

49. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


just because your a blind ibot and refuse to see anything that isnt pro-apple doesnt make it true. you dont have to look any further thanwww.phonearena.com for the proof. if you are too lazy or ignorant to look up the data, its not my fault.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 13:59 3

30. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I gotta side with E.N. on this one too actually! Because of the iPhones introduction and AT&T's heavy push, carriers were kinda forced to choose sides. Every carrier chose a manufacture or OS it thought could make an "iPhone-killer". VZW failed miserably with the LG Voyager and Dare, and the Blackberry Storm. Sprint almost succeeded with the Palm Pre, but it quickly lost steam because of Palm weird marketing strategy and lack of developer support. T-Mobiles choice to back the Android OS proved to be the best choice, but the G1 wasn't the looker the iPhone was. It wasn't until VZW launched the Motorola Droid that Apple started to get a little real competition and brought Android into the spotlight. Sprint saw the light and launched the HTC Hero, and the Evo, and the battle lines were drawn. It was every CARRIER against the iPhone at that point and that push for Droids and Androids because just as much a part of their cultures as the iPhone became a part of AT&T's. And even though Sprint and VZW now have the iPhone as well, you can tell its a little harder for sales reps to adjust to the change. So I can see how it would be the same for reps and even customers to think anything but iPhone when it comes to AT&T because for so long the two were synonymous with each other. I also think that's why so many people still get their iPhones from AT&T even though in most situations, VZW's version outperforms AT&T's in just about every category.

With that said, E.N. you are right about one more thing...Android is the best, hands down.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 16:57

36. godsarmylds (Posts: 36; Member since: 05 Mar 2010)


Okay, I'm sorry i don't think one carrier out there wants to side with apple. If they could they would get them off their shelves. Lets look at whats been going on with carriers with the apple phone. ATT got the iphone and they let their network go to crap and got rid of the 5 gig plan and switched to the 2 gig plan.

Verizon got rid of the $30 buck 5 gig plan and now a 30 buck 2 gig plan and now you see an increase in the cost of an android phone.

Sprint got them and the first thing they tried to do was drop the unlimited data. And can't see how the coming months this iphone will bring that carrier down.

And T-mobile g gully i really hope they dont get the iphone next year.

Customers don't get it cause they are so dumb. But by getting a the shiny iphone your Fing your own damn carrier. It cost the phone company to much money to hold the iphone. Yea be excited about your dumb phone but except the fact that apple will be Fing one way or the other.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 20:50 1

46. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)


I can see why you say that, the iPhone seems to be an albatross around the neck of all the carriers it's on. But the unlimited data thing was decided well before the iPhone came to VZW or Sprint because of the shortage of bandwidth and the increasing amount of smartphone users.

I'm with on another thing to, knowing the kind of subsidies they have to pay you would think they really would want to get the iPhone off of their shelves. But the iPhone brings in customers like no other device and in the mobile industry, bringing in new subscribers and lowering churn is all carriers are concerned with. They figure they make up the money in other ways, like adding a stupid $2 fee to pay your bill. Or raising the cost of Android phones to make up the difference. But thats nothing an online petition or a trip to amazon.com can't fix. We're consumers, we're not stupid!

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 10:27 2

62. tedkord (Posts: 4531; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


"We're consumers, we're not stupid!"

Ever heard of the pet rock? Or Ron Popeil's spray on hair? Or, hell, the Kardashian shows? By and large, we are extremely stupid and bandwagon jumpers, and advertisers know it and count on it. Make it pretty, shiny and the cool thing to own, and we flock to it regardless of quality, usability or value.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 11:36

63. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Lol! Okay, those are perfect examples of how stupid consumers can be at times. Especially the Kardashian shows. Not one of them have ANY kind of talent, yet they have 10 reality shows...why?

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 18:30

67. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


is there really 10 shows for those idiots???? who the hell watches that crap!?!?! lol

reality tv is for morons.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 21:11

47. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


why would they chose to sell the iphone then? both verizon and sprint (obviously) wanted it...

u think they dont want to drop unlimited? u think they dont want to give less data? it makes more money for them.. and the iphone gives them the oppurtunity to do that

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 00:14

50. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


adjust to the change? did you know that ATT corporate reps had an "iphone quota" that they had to meet as well as their regular quotas to keep their jobs? no other US carrier has an "iphone quota" outside of ATT.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 11:42

64. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Are you serious?! That is so stupid! But hey, this is AT&T we're talking about.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 14:04

66. dha_george (Posts: 54; Member since: 27 Jan 2010)


that is not true att corporate reps did not have an iphone quota

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 18:31

68. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


amazing that every ex-ATT employee that i come across said that their was. Who should i believe.. hmm....

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 18:42

69. BenCjamin (Posts: 78; Member since: 13 May 2011)


Wow remixfa, i just list some respect for you there. I've never gone into my at&t and had them try to sell me the iphone. the other thing is the iphone sells itself because it's an apple product and unfortunately consumers assume because it is apple it's amazing. look at the ipad. Apple didn't invent the tablet, touch screen tablets had been around for at least 2 to 3 years before the ipad came out but because it was apple they sold like crazy.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 19:06

70. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you lose respect for me because i chose to believe the 10 or so ex-ATT reps that i work/worked with that all said that there was an iphone quota when they worked there? lol. Maybe its changed since the iphone has gone to multiple carriers. But hey, if respect is lost because i believe my friends over strangers on the internet.. not much i can do about that. :)

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 00:52

51. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


You know, you might have gotten away looking smart and unbiased if hadn't you mentioned that A & B part. You go off saying that to Android users when the iPhone users behave in the same manner? There is really no difference as to how the fanatics behave.

However, this whole sludge of info coming from a reporter of MAC OBSERVER... Don't you think that's just a bit unfair?

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 03:36 2

59. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Well technically, nothing I said directly referred to this Mac Observer article about At&t and Apple outselling 8 to 1. My last comment with the 6.8 million devices activated suggested it could possibly be true, but I never said I believed the reports. I just commented on how quick people are to disbelieve anything pro-Apple. I think all of these reports are unfair and BS but that doesn't stop us from talking about them.

Android users definitely do more attacking than iPhone users. I mean in articles like Nexus vs Rezound, Nexus vs Razr, and Nexus Review, there are almost no annoying pro-iPhone comments. But compare to any iOS thread (like all the iPad rumors) and you may even see more Android users. Sometimes I skip commenting on threads because there are just way too many stupid comments from Android users. Saying iPhone and Android users behave the same would be a lie.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 00:56

52. bvalde09 (Posts: 172; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Mmmm ok here is deal ATT was the only carrier that had the iphone of course the numbers will be like this I mean every customer with an iphone will just upgrade to the new version of the device. Is not that they just bring the Iphone to the table. I would like to see what Sprint (Since the just bring the product) sales look like.............. IS poinless saying that IOS is better than android and viceversa. IOS is good as long as you jailbroke you device and android is good as is..... Cellphone users should know that SGS2 is a top product as well the iphone

posted on 02 Jan 2012, 16:11

78. krazdjokr26 (unregistered)


"No, no, nope, android is the best, no way, can't be true, impossible, I won't accept this...." BWAHAHAHA!!! this made my day...

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 21:30

74. iDroidx650 (Posts: 72; Member since: 26 May 2010)


you don't know the facts. iPhone sells way more than any phone in my store. We don't push phones out. Consumers just want the iPhone 4S.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 03:18 15

2. p0rkguy (Posts: 683; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


AT&T stays riding that Apple's d*ck.
They have to. If they didn't they wouldn't have a chance in the mobile world.
It's so simple, what do you think of when you think of AT&T? Verizon? Sprint? T-Mobile?
I see Apple plastered all over AT&T regardless of how much other carriers advertise about them carrying the iPhone.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 03:28 7

3. baldilocks (Posts: 503; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)


You aren't really making much sense at all. Just so you know.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 03:41 10

4. p0rkguy (Posts: 683; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


Then please tell me why it doesn't make sense.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:35 6

18. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


well for one, you didn't fully explain why AT&T is riding Apple's penis. And you didn't explain why they wouldn't have a chance in the mobile world if they didn't ride Apple.

Obviously you think of iPhone when you think of AT&T, but that may be just you. What do you think of when you when you see Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile? Android, Android, Android? If you do then you shouldn't because iPhones are often the best selling devices across all carriers (except T-Mobile for obvious reasons). And when the Motorola Atrix 4G launched, AT&T heavily marketed that device as "the most powerful smartphone in the world." So there's your argument circling the drain.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 14:59

32. p0rkguy (Posts: 683; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


When people subscribe to AT&T, they're likely to get a BB or iPhone. Android has no presence on AT&T. If you actually stepped into a store that carried the iPhone, it's all the employees do push it. Why? Maybe it helps sales, maybe it's what they know, maybe they were told to. I don't know and it isn't irrelevant but it is all they want to push.

May be just what I think? Lol. You visit a phone blog you're likely to know almost every phone available on your subscriber and more.
Go ahead and ask random people on the streets, "What phones can you get on AT&T? Verizon? Sprint? T-Mobile?" They'll tell you iPhone 90%+ for AT&T. It's not what I think but what you're stating is clearly what YOU think.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 18:34 1

41. Baseballer (Posts: 131; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Actually your wrong there. I went to an at&t store wanting either the iphone or inspire and they didnt push at all. the rep said both were great phones and its a matter of prefrence but said he liked the inspire alot. So back up facts please

posted on 02 Jan 2012, 08:25

76. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


the HTC inspire was a piece of junk unfortunately (had to switch to the atrix when i had ATT just to get service).

my g/f at the time kept her inspire and i always had better reception. Was not a fan and thought the phone was garbage

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 01:00

53. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


If you do then you shouldn't because iPhones are often the best selling devices across all carriers (except T-Mobile for obvious reasons).

-Prove this statement. If this is just an OPINION then clearly you shouldn't be preaching for someone to not do the same because then you'd just be a hypocrite.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 19:45

72. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


"iPhones are often the best selling devices across all carriers"

- this is not an opinion

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 21:30

73. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


only crazed fanboys keep bringing up the sales point. over all sales are nearly 3 to 1 for android vs apple. that whole "top selling phone" point doesnt mean anything because when you want an android phone you have 10+ choices per carrier in many variations of power and size. When you want an iOS phone, you have 1 maybe 2 choices at best.

man.. id love an iphone.. should i get it in a white square with a 3.5 inch screen, or a black square with a 3.5 inch screen... the choice is so hard.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 11:08 9

12. jd829 (Posts: 155; Member since: 24 Feb 2010)


Dude, if a person wants an iphone, it doesn't matter how strong a carrier's relationship is with google, they're going to buy another iphone. Period. That's just how the game works. The vast majority of iphone sales are upgrade customers moving from an older iphone. Don't blame the carrier, blame the close minded apple users who don't want to even hear about other options. #Truth

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:44 3

22. quakan (Posts: 1160; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


It's not being close minded to have a personal preference. I've tried out Android and iOS and I prefer iOS. I was an Android fan until I really got acquainted with iOS.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:52 6

25. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Same here. I've used many Android handsets before and although I see many of the features they have to offer, I still also prefer iOS. I don't see why its so hard for people to understand that everyone doesn't want a Android. #Reality

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 13:45 1

27. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Me either as an Android user I came to realize that even if I dont like iOS as it is, or anything apple, why the heck would I care about other people who prefer it over any OS. It's their damn choice anyway, its their damn money to waste anyways, and in the end if it turns out bad its their damn problem not yours. . .

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 01:03

54. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand that everyone doesn't an iPhone either.

posted on 02 Jan 2012, 08:29

77. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


4g? iphone doesnt have 4g plain and simple.

open source is a double edge sword i get that, but the iphone is a "smartphone for dummies" in terms of what it can actually do.

i'd take 4g any day of the week over an iphone

its hard to fathom because if you break it down side by side; logic would turn toward a market where a majority of my apps are free and not .99.
a market that isnt bogged down by appletalk and gets screened by apple before published.

IOS is functional i give it that...but no widgets? the OS is very linear. Android gives me shortcuts the iphone doesnt..

the iphone will always be second best in reality, but number 1 in sales

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 17:33 5

38. sniper1087 (Posts: 352; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


even though I agree with the fact that is personal preference, I tried to go from Android to Iphone 4s to find how boring the UI is and how limited it is for me to use it, and the appstore even though a lot of apps, most of them paid and no free version to try out, GPS completely sucked, sorry but whats the point of having a GPS that shows you a map, if you are on the road you cannot look at your phone, anyways I went and got myself a Samsung Galaxy Note and let me tell you the HD Display, thats right HD 1280 x 800 pixels, compared to the Iphone 960 x 640 pixels was a big seller. Don't get me wrong the Iphone is a good phone is just not right for everybody, and thats when androids come into place, not everybody wants a small screen phone, some others want keyboards as well, and with android is all about choice, and I used both systems, but the synergy of android with all google services is just right, just entering my google account, my previous wallpaper, my contacts and my apps get downloaded on my phone and im good to go, of course I will have to customize my screen to my liking which is one thing apple never allowed its customers to do.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 18:14 3

40. lukasound (Posts: 152; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Some people just don't like a lot of features and possibilities...
A lot of people are not into technology and computers, and iPhone is great for them. I have seen it with my own eyes, a friend of mine (not an old person) got really frustrated with a great android phone i recommended to him after he bought it. He called me and was furios saying "I just pressed something and my call was still on, but i could access the menu and use anything on my phone while i could still hear the other person talking, my phone is broken!" I laughed so hard... He needs an iPhone...

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 03:49 3

60. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


@ladyhaly I don't think its hard for people to believe that many people don't want iPhone. I'm sure we all get that. I haven't seen too many iPhone users call Android users idiots for buying a Nexus or Bionic.

@lukasound I'm not saying that people chose iPhones because they don't like features and possibilities. That's a very popular and annoying misconception. I'm VERY into technology and computers. The only thing I really feel like I'm losing is the ability to customize my home screen with all the amazing "possibilities" (lol) and that's pretty much it.

And wouldn't the iPhone have the same problem? You can be in a call and access the menu and use anything on your phone. I mean, the end call button can't be too different on iOS and Android. Maybe your friend's just an idiot?

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 17:02

37. godsarmylds (Posts: 36; Member since: 05 Mar 2010)


By the way I talk to customer that come into my store talking how their friends go to ATT to get an iphone but the sales rep pushes them into an android. If i was a carrier i would be handing out spiffs to my employees to sell an android over a blood sucking iphone. I sure hope they are.....

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 04:16 9

5. Netolic (Posts: 139; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Because android/google is stronger with verizon . A.k.a galxy nexus and droid razr. Att has a weak relationship with google

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:46 2

24. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Have you seen AT&Ts lineup? They definitely have a weak-er relationship with Google but I wouldn't necessarily call it weak. Right now I just visited Sprint, Verizon, and AT&Ts website and they're all pretty much advertising the iPhone the same exact way. Sprint seems to be doing the most iPhone advertising actually.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 01:08

55. ladyhaly (Posts: 106; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Have you considered that some users just don't like how fickle the signal is with AT&T? Also with the advertising--- maybe it's just you. Because based on your biased arguments, you're more likely to see the iPhone and nothing but the iPhone on any website--- given also the fact that you sprout out with opinions leaning towards Apple's favor throughout all these threads.

posted on 01 Jan 2012, 04:22 2

61. E.N. (Posts: 2240; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


I HAVE AN IPHONE!! I'm not hiding that. Go yourself and look at the websites. You will notice the same thing. If you go to sprint's website, the very first thing that'll pop out at you is a large iPhone 4S advertisement in the very center of the screen. AT&T and Verizon have similar advertisements but they are smaller, not the first thing you see, and in Verizon's case, is located at the bottom left-hand corner of the screen. Someone said that AT&T is still riding Apple. I honestly think that's false and I provided clear unbiased examples directly from each carrier of why that may not be true. I don't see iPhone plastered all over AT&T any more than I do Verizon or Sprint.

In my comment above, I clearly acknowledge the fact that AT&T does indeed have a weaker relationship with Google, but I don't see how it can be considered completely weak when they have the SGII and the once widely acclaimed Atrix 4G that was considered the best smartphone in the world (now updated to the Atrix II).

Nowhere have I condoned buying an iPhone or using AT&T as your service provider. Yes, I am in this thread (not always though) leaning in Apple's favor. You, throughout this entire thread, are leaning in Android's favor. What's the difference?

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 14:11 1

31. LawrenceTheMute (Posts: 2; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


we have the vivid and the titan... and the skyrocket... and nitro hd.... all of those are lte except for the titan.... all of those are 1.5 ghz except for the vivid which is 1.2ghz which is the same as the RAZR.... Yeah the cold shoulder from google is rough...

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 08:32 12

6. djg71087 (Posts: 70; Member since: 10 Oct 2010)


Well I work @ at&t and I can assure you that they have a good relationship w/ google, and in my opinion I think the Android selection is good (GSII Skyrocket, HTC Vivid, LG Nittro). However, and very much unfortunate around the holiday times at&t sales rep's turn into cash registers (or as I like to call them "order takers"). We all know how good apple markets there phone, so if someone comes in inquiring about the phone (and that customer knows either little about smartphones or never had a smartphone) and versus really qualifying that customer and recommending the appropriate phones based on their needs, they just jump the gun and tell everyone "just get the iPhone, you'll love it" or "iPhones are the best b/c of the app's" or even "iPhone is the king of all phones" ---(and yes, I really did hear that line used once or twice). furthermore, another reason I believe this happens is b/c the iPhone has a very low return rate, and as a sales rep I know I hate seeing phones being returned (for almost any reason).

This is def just my opinion as to what I see happen a lot. I am def not biased toward any company as I owe and iPad, have an HTC Vivid and also love the Windows Phone software (all great platforms in my opinion). But I will say I really hate sales reps and ppl that are stuck on one software and either refuse to either look at new/other ones or they talk a lot of game about they're phone and know really nothing about it (other then calling,txt'ing, and Facebook.), I call them Dumb A$$e@

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 08:49 5

7. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


i think you put this well. A lot of reps sell what is "easy" rather than qualify them to a device that will work for them.

similar to our doctors. Give you pills before i diagnose you :)

however the iphone still sucks...it has less capability than android (and will soon fall short to winphone imo). An ipad and an iphone are two different things (one doesnt use cellphone signal necessarily lol).

the iphone is the "smartphone for dummies" and until our generation can keep up with how fast technology in our phones is changing there will always be a "need" for the apple iphone. It's quite sad honestly

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 09:39 7

8. Adianshadows (Posts: 66; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I'm a rep for VZW and I agree with everything you said... but here is the thing Verizon makes VERY little money on the iPhone and I don't see how ATT can make much more per iPhone. If your selling so many iPhones then where is your profits comming from to better your network so on and so forth... just sayin moar ifail sales = lot less profit for carriers.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 09:56 8

10. djg71087 (Posts: 70; Member since: 10 Oct 2010)


your right about the profit part, but as the current pay structure is... its all about #'s (to meet the quota). also, look at how the store is merchandised as well, i mean the iPhone has all this wall space (for one phone) and Soooo.... many.... accessories..... for it. kid you not, i have had a lot of ppl buy the phone specifically b/c of the type and color of the cases (it absurd).

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:11 3

14. roscuthiii (Posts: 1786; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I'm on Verizon and I've seen similar when I went into a Verizon store to pay my bill and took a look around. First, as soon as i walked in there were two things the doorway. A kiosk with a screen to check in for assistance, and an Apple display. Secondly, (while playing the layman who's never even heard of a site like phonearena) I was talking to the VZW rep and mentioned I had a Droid Eris but even though I'd had a good experience with my phone it was looking a bit dated compared to what I was seeing advertised on TV, and was thinking of upgrading soon to which the rep replied that I should get the iPhone. Upon asking why I should get the iPhone, what it's advantages were, the reply was, "It's the iPhone. It's hot."
Did not really answer my question now did it? Didn't even really seem to know what the differences between iOS, Android, WP7, or Blackberry were. Other than their popularity that is. I'd stongly encourage any prospective consumer to do your own research before listening to any sales rep first. Not that there aren't sales reps that don't know their elbow from their ass, just that it's best to get informed first.
My gf now tells them that I probably know more about the phones they're selling than they do and they treat me a little differently. Which is too bad because I was kinda having fun with it for a few times. Sorry sales reps.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:44 2

21. networkdood (Posts: 6264; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


That is exactly what happens - reps go with the easy sale - Americans hate choices, and if the item is good enough for the neighbor or friends or family, well, then the customer looks at the item in question as a must have.
Remember, just because something sells more does not make it the best. Look at Nintendo NES vs. SEGA master system. SEGA had the most advanced system, while NES had the popular characters - ZELDA, CASTLEVANIA, MEGA MAN, MARIO, METROID - NES' software is what sold the 8 bit system, not the hardware itself.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 09:50 3

9. christianqwerty (Posts: 460; Member since: 05 May 2011)


I believe it, I called 7 At&ts around my town/ next town over , every store was sold out of the iPhone 4s the day after Christmas , the at&t rep even tried pushing the LG nitro at me over the phone! Lol

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 11:02 2

11. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


I wonder how Sprint is doing with their Iphone. lol

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 11:48 2

13. putes (Posts: 38; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


This the second article with a misleading headline or caveats I've read trying to twist the Android momentum story in favor Apple. The other article I read was about the rate of the rate growth in Apple growth. Which didn't make sense to me since the rate of the rate ignores total units sold.

posted on 31 Dec 2011, 12:13 4

15. jwc89 (Posts: 7; Member since: 31 May 2011)


i work for a third party vendor we sell about 150 phones a month at our location between the 3 carriers we have about 75 of those are att and this month we only sold 7 iphones the reason the att store sells less androids is because they are cheaper everywhere else our prices are about 50 to 100 bucks cheaper on most of our androids

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