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Apple patents Lytro style technology; will it be used in the next iPhone?

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Apple patents Lytro style technology; will it be used in the next iPhone?
Apple could be targeting the Apple iPhone 6 to debut Lytro style photography for the rear snapper on the phone. The Cupertino based tech giant just received a patent, No. 8,593,564, for a "digital camera including refocusable imaging mode adaptor". This will allow the user to take a picture at a certain resolution and refocus the picture after it is snapped. While the title of the patent mentions a digital camera, the patent makes it clear that it is a system that could be used on an iPhone.

Apple's late co-founder and CEO Steve Jobs was reported to be keenly interested in the technology and invited the inventor of the Lytro to visit his home for a private demonstration before the technology went public. Lytro does have an app in the Apple App Store and Nokia recently introduced a feature called Refocus for its PureView camera equipped phones. The patent was filed by Apple in 2011.

Lytro is listed as prior art in Apple's patent application, but the tech titan says improvements can be made in both picture quality and resolution. Apple's technology differs from Lytro's as it employs two separate modes. One is a high-resolution non-refocusable mode and the other is a low-resolution refocusable mode. The patent also covers an add-on version for any existing camera. Apple might consider using the technology for the video capture feature on a future iPhone model.


source: USPTO via AppleInsider

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posted on 26 Nov 2013, 12:43 5

1. nerdylish (Posts: 51; Member since: 13 Apr 2013)


Nokia Lumia already has an app for that. It's called Refocus.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 12:50 11

3. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)


"The patent was filed by Apple in 2011."
That's why it's better to read the article before jumping to the comments section.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:04 5

6. sprockkets (Posts: 1146; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


This isn't an app - it does this in hardware, or the Lystro camera does.

You really think an app will focus stuff well after the fact?

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 00:08

41. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3485; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Actually, we're already using the app, and it works great❕.. Quit being such a downer on WP.. It really makes you look sad..

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 05:51 1

44. johnbftl (Posts: 175; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)


Where in this article does it say hardware buddy? It's impossible for hardware to do that. Try refocusing with a 35mm film camera after you've taken the image. What it is doing is essentially capturing a video or a burst of photos until you hit the capture button. It shows the image taken at the point you hit capture. From there you can roll back to a certain point before that was also digitally captured that was in focus. BlackBerry already had this in there Z10 and Q10. It's called Time Shift. It's nothing new. This is just Apple being Apple. To my point though, it's part of software, aka an app. It's not hardware.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:05 9

7. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)


Apple may have filed the patent in 2011, but they still haven't put the tech into their phones. Nokia acquired the tech this year, and we got it in the phones this year.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:20 3

9. nerdylish (Posts: 51; Member since: 13 Apr 2013)


You got me. :P

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:21 9

10. Dastrix (Posts: 574; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


Nokia: Acquired Lytro technology, made an innovative app (all in one year, #innovation)
Apple: Filed the patent in 2011, still no hardware and software support (#yolo)

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:05 2

23. sprockkets (Posts: 1146; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


This is not an app for the second time. Lytro is an actual camera that captures the light information and not just a 2d picture.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 00:16

42. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3485; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Yeah, but Nokia has already started working on this with Pelican Imaging's 16 array lens.. Give credit where credit is due, and stop being so quick to be negative when you see something WP related. It's so obvious what you're doing..And it's pathetic.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/02/pelican-imaging-array-camera-coming-2014/

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:27

11. Ashoaib (Posts: 1252; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Then how come apple got patent if other company developed it too?

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 18:27 3

37. cheetah2k (Posts: 771; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Nek minit Apple patents Oxygen style air we breath.... Fcuks me how they get away with this BS

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:09

46. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Maybe the other company's implementation is different?

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:28 2

12. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5572; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Ah... just in time for a patent fight between Nokia and Apple. I wonder how long before the lawsuits get filed?

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:39 1

17. androiphone20 (Posts: 1399; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


Sorry, not going to happen. Apple's patent differs cuz it has two modes

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:52 2

27. PBXtech (Posts: 968; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


Nokia ate Apple's lunch the last time they locked horns. How long before they get filed depends on who is going to be filing them.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 15:50

33. sum182 (Posts: 229; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


It wouldn't be Nokia this time depending on when it would happen (which i'm pretty sure it won't). It would be Microsoft

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:58 1

20. darkkjedii (Posts: 10263; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Read the article or shhhh

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 12:45 1

2. Ashoaib (Posts: 1252; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


OMG.. more cases, more put hold on technology

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 12:50 6

4. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6188; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Great com on enough with all these PATENT B.S. Apple is a patent whore.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:33 5

15. Ashoaib (Posts: 1252; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


But its not their fault, they will apply for patent for each n everything... its US government who is at fault by keep granting them patent of whatever BS... one day they will take the patent of breathing and no one will be allowed to breath without apple's permission

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:38 3

24. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


Apple's the one suing though...and apparently against all reason and logic, as shown in the Apple-Samsung court case.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 15:38 1

28. rawbow (Posts: 407; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


thankyou, you must be an exceptional lawyer to pass verdicts based on forum gossip! Patents protect rights and will help samsung too "if" someone is foolish enough to copy their tech.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 15:43 4

31. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


Copy? Who's copying who? Look at the F700, the LG Prada, and then come back to argue with me.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 16:01 1

34. Ninetysix (Posts: 1420; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Here I am arguing with you. What do you think of this iPhone "Purple --2005"? LG Prada??? LOL...

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1264978/Motion_to_kill_Sony_Jony_phone_evidence.pdf

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3201162/apple-refutes-claim-they-cribbed-notes-from-sony-reveal-prototype

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 17:56 5

36. joey_sfb (Posts: 2695; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


If we apply Apple patent logic to Apple itself. Apple has no right to be in the cell phone industries at all.

Apple claim they should solely be the one to benefit from their innovation in smartphone but they forget 2G/3G smart phones was around longer than their iPhone such as Nokia N95. Apple also continue to manufacturer phones without paying royalties to the 3G patents owners. This happen because they think they could bully their way thru with the backing of US government.

Apple fans are blindly devoted. And at iPhone Arena they have find a good place to piss at every Android news especially the ones from Samsung.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 21:32

40. stealthd (Posts: 925; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)


You're not really making any sense there. The N95 is older so. . . Apple shouldn't be able to make a cell phone? Apple DOES pay royalties to 3G patent owners (that's a big part of what the whole Nokia v Apple suit was about). 3G patents are standard, meaning anyone can get into the game for a fair price, including Apple. You really think they'd be making phones for 6 years now and make the most money in the industry and somehow get away with not paying?

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 06:30 1

45. chemhaz (Posts: 159; Member since: 04 May 2012)


All phone designs were heading for larger screens and fewer buttons.

They all managed to release a touch screen phones around the same time... so the Apple concept design "purple" was either leaked (highly unlikely knowing what they are like), or they were all heading in the same direction, but I bet Sammy and LG got their product from concept to reality in less time.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 21:25 1

39. stealthd (Posts: 925; Member since: 12 Jun 2011)


Wait, you mean the F700, the Samsung keyboard slider that was announced and released AFTER the iPhone, and the LG Prada that anyone with eyes can tell the iPhone wasn't based on?

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:10

47. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Hang on, wasn't Samsung found guilty of infringement and fined a significant amount of money? That would indicate Apple were right to sue since they won the case so convincingly.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:01

5. sprockkets (Posts: 1146; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


After reading about the lystro camera, what a rather lame "improvement" this patent is compared to what they did.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:45 1

18. androiphone20 (Posts: 1399; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


I was thinking about its aquisition of PrimeSense and it could actually add up, Maybe they align
with each other to create some cool new
capacities?

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:05 12

8. Taters (Posts: 2640; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


Wait? So Apple is allowed to take someons s existing technology and modify it and patent it while no one can take packaging and round corners and modify it without supposedly costing Apple billions of dollars? Lol every major player should just team up and get rid of them now before their ego gets even bigger

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:29 4

13. Ashoaib (Posts: 1252; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


But the problem is this US government keep granting them patents, why? just bcoz its US company?

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:51 3

19. androiphone20 (Posts: 1399; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


whoa, wait here. This is the only company cuz it's being brought to your attention. So many other patents are being granted

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:39 5

25. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


Yeah, but Apple is abusing the patent system. Motorola, HTC etc. are suing because of legit 4G patents. What's Apple got? 4 round corners and "slide to unlock", which is pretty much implemented on every public toilet door?

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 15:40

29. rawbow (Posts: 407; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


no the s2 was a cheap rip off of the iPhone albeit a powerful phone.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 15:44 5

32. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


And the iPhone was a cheap rip off of the LG Prada. What if Samsung's S2 looks vaguely like an iPhone? Doesn't IOS 7 look like MIUI?

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:17

49. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


And that's for MIUI to sue Apple if they think they have a case against them. Just because one company chooses not to sue another doesn't mean Apple shouldn't sue anyone for stealing their stuff. Where does this idiotic logic come from?!

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:16

48. number29 (Posts: 185; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Apple isn't abusing the patent system. They are using the patent system to project the IP that they developed or bought. Perhaps you should redirect your frustration to the real culprit; Samsung, for implementing those protected designs into their products and forcing Apple to sue them as a result? Who do people try and protect the thief? Do these people endorse intellectual property theft?!

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:30 2

14. ZeroCide (Posts: 683; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


This is why the USPTO is broken. They always give patents to Apple even though there is prior art.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:41 5

26. woodshop20 (Posts: 459; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


They're doing it on purpose. It's called nationalism. Why else dues think the Apple ban on iPhones was vetoed? Only in the US can Apple win such an illogical court case.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 16:07 2

35. ZeroCide (Posts: 683; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


Either that or they have someone at the USPTO in their pocket. I have suspected this for a while.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:03 2

22. sprockkets (Posts: 1146; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


They can improve it but they are still not able to use the underlying parts without permission if patented.

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 15:41

30. rawbow (Posts: 407; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


finally a sane opinion!

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 13:35

16. Ashoaib (Posts: 1252; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


US only care about the money, look at all their evils just for money and quite ironically their all evils are raped up in a beautiful story of making this world safe

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 14:00 3

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 10263; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


"Big" things in 2014 from apple

posted on 26 Nov 2013, 18:38 2

38. deewinc (Posts: 155; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


Funny that Apple patents technologies they do not have. Next is the wrap around display! ROTFL.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 00:17

43. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3485; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/02/pelican-imaging-array-camera-coming-2014/

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