Analyst: Samsung Galaxy S III sales soar after verdict
significant." Since the verdict, the Samsung Galaxy S III outsold the Apple iPhone 4S at all five Sprint and three Verizon locations that the analyst visited. None of the Verizon stores and just two of the Sprint locations had sold out of the model. Meanwhile, out of three Costco stores visited by the analyst, two were sold out of the AT&T and T-Mobile models of the Samsung Galaxy S III while the third store was sold out of the AT&T variant but had the T-Mobile model in stock.
The analyst says that there are some points to ponder (only if pondering points is your thing). Did many of these Samsung Galaxy S III sales come at the expense of future iPhone sales? And, will the Samsung Galaxy S III still be able to compete after the launch of the 6th generation Apple iPhone? Regardless of sales, Chowdhry sees both Apple and Samsung reaching a cross-licensing pact.
5. darkskoliro (Posts: 1058; Member since: 07 May 2012)
*android user here*
iPhone will always have loyal customers, no way their sales will decrease
6. doubler86 (Posts: 320; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
their sales already have decreased. Apple blamed it on the economy while samsung sold more phones
16. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
no actually, apple products have the best customer satisfaction in the world.......almost every person who gets an iphone will never go for any other product and iphone also attracts people from the other platforms....ios has good stability and smoothness and high quality apps and games.......the sales reduce in anticipation for the next iphone
the difference is that samsung is selling too many phones, some for the rich, some for the poor, some for the middle classes.........yes, its all about choice, most of the samsung phone sold aren't the flagship models, there are also many cheap phones with decent features......
apple will make more money, customers and developers will always love apple........but talking about marketshare, there is no single company that can beat samsung because they have too many phones.........cheap phones for the poor, high end phones for the others, windows phones for wp lovers.....and tizen for those who loved nokia's meego....
apple and samsung are frenemies, the love each other, they hate each other, but they can't live without each other......they have different goals, apple wants to continue to attract the customers, developers while samsung wants the biggest marketshare........to be honest, both the companies have already achieved their goals.....the financial losses in the patent wars is like a drop in the ocean.....
google also wants a huge marketshare for their flexible and powerful os and they just got what they wanted
20. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
I think you're wrong in saying that both companies have already achieved their goals. Apple clearly has not yet achieved its goal. And you know what its goal is? A monopolistic market. A market where apple will only exist.
Samsung also haven't achieved its goal.
No company in the world have ever achieved their goal. Because if they did, they would stop from innovating, inventing and manufacturing new products.
28. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
apple just doesn't want others to use its patents without paying them and 1 billion means nothing to samsung or apple.........even MS does the same thing..........apple has got what it wanted........samsung wanted marketshare and they got it.......the ipad is the leader in tablets but i feel that it wouldn't pain samsung,..........these companies are working hard because they want to maintain their status in the market............actually, its the companies like sany, hp, dell , htc etc etc that are yet to achieve their goal of making more money.....lets hope that they will have a better future
37. tedkord (Posts: 7190; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
If that we true Apple would license their patents not seek bans.
52. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
apple offered a license to samsung didn't they?.....samsung could have negotiated with apple to charge them fairly.......apple would have listened to them because they have a huge contract with apple
MS is collecting $15 from each samsung device.....nobody talks about that do they?
85. tedkord (Posts: 7190; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Yeah, $30 post phone was a serious offer. Apple had no intention of licensing it's stolen ip.
42. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
But what's wrong here is that they're patenting things that should've not been patented in the first place. And here goes the patent office granting those patents like icon designs and a generic phone design.
If they really care about innovation, they should have not sue anyone with such patent. Many companies or even people patent things but not ask royalties or licensing fees to their patent. It's clear like a crystal and water that they patented these things as a secret weapon to those who're threatening their stand in the market.
But what can i do, patent is a patent. Unless someone will try to invalidate those patent, apple will continue to use it to threaten others which will try to compete their place in the market.
54. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
thats not apple's mistake......if apple was awarded a patent, they would definitely use it.......MS earns more from patents than mobile phones and now google will do the same thing with motorola.......yes, software patents are annoying but thats the only way we can motivate companies to make newer stuff.......its a well known fact that google made widgets to make android look different from the competition....now wasn't that a great idea?
samsung has made the touchwiz nature ux to avoid apple.....and didn't they do a great job?
we have seen many incidents where patents led to innovation........i have faith in samsung, they will get better because of these wars.....
57. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
won't argue with that. I know software patents would help others to innovate. But you know what, i hate the way apple use it. They use it to cripple someone. They use it to push someone down. Again, if they really care about innovation, they would not make a big deal out of it.
When apple copies or take some hints with other companies design, does someone sue them? No. Because other companies are mature enough to know that that's how the world goes.
Innovation is improving something. It's a different thing from "inventing". Yeah I agree samsung devices look similar with apple. But that doesn't completely means that they copied it. They took some hint on what they think apple set as standard.
I agree apple revolutionize on how we think of smartphones. They created a standard to follow.
But the thing is, they only want it on themselves. If they really want to license it on samsung, they would have let samsung pay for it in much lower price. Can you believe a company asking for a $30 fee for letting you use a "generic" design?
I also have faith on both companies. But also, i just want to see a healthy competition between these companies.
Again, if they want innovation, they should have accept the fact that the designs they have patented and awarded with must not be a big deal. I know samsung would do great in the future, so is with apple.
But the whole thing is really ridiculous. Atleast, IMHO.
61. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
apple has the right to patent its inventions, if they ask some basic things to be patented, then its the mistake of the patenting system......as a company, apple will ask for patenting things......but i still think that its okay to patent everything because there are many ways to do the same thing...........and apple never targets small chinese local companies that clone the iphone with their own os.....apple only targets the huge companies that use apple's patents.......one thing that i would like to tell everyone is that companies like samsung are too big to be killed in patent wars........so patent wars will only improve samsung....samsung isn't going anywhere.........if u hit a stone at different places with a hammer, it becomes a statue......now samsung will always secure their products by licensing them or by inventing newer stuff...........thats good for innovation
22. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well i wasnt even satisfied with first use forget about buying one
23. Mittal (Posts: 491; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
i dont know.. i feel the fun element is more in Android
Chances of getting bored by the iPhone seem faster than from a good Android device.
27. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
yes, i must agree that the iphone has everything that is required to remain entertained but apple made the easiest ui in the world, the ui is elegant,stable and smooth but its not entertaining.......unless you jailbreak an iphone, you can't customize it.....you can't have stuff like live wallpapers, and other good ui tweaks unless you jailbreak it but android can do it straight out of the box without any rooting.............apple and android users are different....apple users want to be entertained with the apps and games and they get it and there are two types of android users.....some of them have cheap android phones and they want an iphone....some of them have expensive high end android phones and they want a highly customizable, complicated ui and a huge phone and i think that the people who belong to this section can't be satisfied with the iphone............
if u want your phone's ui exactly as you want it to be and if you don't like stuff like jailbreaking then you should never get the iphone.....iphone has better apps and games but a powerful android phone is the only phone that can give you the option of custimization.. even the wp8 , meego, bb os etc etc aren't as customizable as android.......so its the only phone that you should get
29. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
No. Me, together with 9 of my friends out of 11 of all us in the group has made the switch from iPhone 3gs/4 to Samsung/HTC product after we got dissappointed with the 4s. Two of our friends who are still under their 2 year contract with the iPhone 4 are planning to switch to G Note 2 or is just waiting for the next Nexus phone.
Now tell me again if Apple has got our best satisfaction. I guess we don't belong to "those almost every person."
31. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
apple has 95% customer satisfaction......no other phone or phone/tablet brand has such a high percentage of customer satisfaction..........but i think you belong to the remaining 5% and i can understand that.........i am using both the brands so i just can't support android or apple..........you are an android guy and your requirements are different.......you want a bigger phone and more customizable ui......and i think your friends should wait for the next nexus phone before getting the g note........the g note 2 id very good but is too big if its intended to be used only as a phone
35. Mittal (Posts: 491; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
"apple has 95% customer satisfaction......no other phone or phone/tablet brand has such a high percentage of customer satisfaction"
Now are u talking about the iPhone, which incidentally is the only phone using iOS or are u talking about iOS ?
If you are talking about the device in particular then probably the GS2 has a very high satisfaction rate too..
48. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
i am talking about all the ios devices together........samsung galaxy s2 doesn't have 95% customer satisfaction......android users can move to wp or any other android phone, they need not necessarily buy another galaxy phone.......
77. Mittal (Posts: 491; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
lately ive started thinking that Apple needs to tweak the look of the interface a bit
The iPhone has been successful for so many years with practically the same interface coz it IS a very dependable and wonderful device and it has created a fan following
BUT uhhhh... i strongly feel they need to freshen up the look ...i see a bit of stagnancy here
78. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
apple wants it to be very easy to use, so easy that even if u are using it for the first time, you feel like you have been using it for years...........they want to make technology simple and straight forward
so, for those who want a refreshed ui should just jailbreak it because if apple starts changing the ui like android, then they can't call it the easiest phone to use......
let me just say that if u were to buy an iphone, you will have to jailbreak it straight away because you can't live without customization and even i wouldn't mind a refreshed ui so i just jailbroke mine for the widgets, live wallpapers
i think apple will give a new ui to ios only after they find an easier way to use the phone or if there are some important new features that are to be added
wp live tiles look cool, apple has also hired the person who makes widgets and live tiles concepts for the iphone but maybe apple is trying to make it very easy to use
anyways, lets do the customization by ourselves instead of waiting for apple to do something.......
79. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
anyways, what are your thoughts on the wp ui.........i think that we will get some live tiles for the jailbroken iphones and androids in near future
100. Mittal (Posts: 491; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
WP ui is the classiest ive come accross. Really elegant. Hats off to Microsoft for making such a fresh ui
I am a person who would avaoid rooting or jailbreaking my device... so my order of preference of the OS would be
1. Android (Simply for its open and more functional nature and soo many choices available!)
2. WP (If i want something really classy and want curious glances )
3. iOS ( An extremely smooth and refined looking ui. But least preferred for me coz without Jailbreaking it i will get bored too fast and there is no option/choice for different hardware. AND last but not the least iPhones are too darn expensive)
80. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
i am a little busy today.......it was nice to talk to u.....see ya later
81. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You're a little busy today? You just posted the same amount of diatribes in five hours that I post in an entire week or so. How much would you post if you weren't busy?
82. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
the sun is yet to rise..........i have been here all night now i have to take a nap for sometime and then go to do my work.........you might have noticed that i don't comment everyday....i have spent my night on youtube and on facebook with an old friend , PA was open in one tab so...........i purchase some flagship devices that come to the market and some devices come from my cousin who is a developer so thats how i get to share all my experiences..........i just place many phones and tablets side by side and i tell the others what i see........i also talk about all this with my cousin and his friends who are developers as well........so, i would obviously tell what i have seen....atleast few times in a month
36. MeoCao (unregistered)
Android has lower satisfaction rate than iPhone b-c there are so many low end Android phones, I guess Galaxy line has the same satisfaction rate or even more.
50. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
actually, more than half of the android phones in the world are low end phones.......hose people should be happy that are getting android for very cheap price, google has been very generous, this is all because of the apps, stability and updates,but it has also been found that people with cheap android phones actually wanted an iphone so i agree with you but i still don't thing galaxy will go to 95%.......after the iphone,it was nokia's n9 that receiced high customer satisfaction....nokia was so foolish to leave android's brother meego......i think google should consider giving updates to all the phones by themselves instead of leaving it to individual companies, i think that the future nexus phones will be faster and hopefully they will also be more stable but the problem here is that the nexus doesn't have the best specs but it gets updated much quicker than the best android phones even if its half the price and there are many more factors..........i have used 5 apple and 4 androids till today......i would say that apple is better for apps,games and performance .....and i would say that android is for high customization, live wallpapers, huge screens, and all this on a very cheap $350 nexus phone.....performance may be improved in the near future but the quality of apps and games depends on the developer's interest, secutity and the android users' willingness to buy more paid apps.......i would say that apple is good for overall performance, apps and games and i would say that the galaxy nexus is a phone that offers great value for money, its the best phone for $350.....
55. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
i know that people like you don't even buy a good android phone and start abusing people who have been closely following both the brands for the past few years...........now all the android users who replied to me were talking about facts and as an android user, i respect their opinion......now i don't want to give desi gaalis to you so......mind your own business
65. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
'.almost every person who gets an iphone will never go for any other product and iphone also attracts people from the other platforms...'
Wow, someone is not living in our reality....
66. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
yea, thats the truth,customers who get the iphone don't like to go back.........and i never said that iphone attracts ALL the people from other platforms......many people don't buy the iphone because its expensive.........but it would prove to be almost free if its resold in select asian and european countries after one year
i think you didn't read the entire thing.....i also said that samsung will always have the highest marketshare because it sells cheap phones and windows phones along with the high end flagship models..........i am living in reality, you aren't able to see it in the right way
67. -box- (Posts: 3968; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I tried using an iphone as just a media player (sister-in-law gave me her 3GS when she got a 4).
It was horrendous.
I couldn't even begin to imagine how anyone could use it daily, let alone as a phone.
Thanks to the internet though, I got a few hundred dollars for it.
69. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
thats because you belong to a part of android users who like customization as i have already said......but you should have jailbreaked it and get an android ui and live wallpapers on it........anyways, it was not your phone, your sister is the actual owner of the iphone 3gs and she bought the iphone 4, now thats customer satisfaction
83. dragonstkdgirl (Posts: 144; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
I can't decide if my urge to thumb down your comment was based on your crappy point or your complete lack of any grammar, capital letters, or properly used ellipses.
No, wait, must be your use of the word "frenemies" in a tech post comment board.
84. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
This comment is full of win. I salute you for your unrestrained pwnage.
86. dragonstkdgirl (Posts: 144; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
It caused me physical pain to read that post, so the word "restraint" was temporarily removed from my vocabulary. ;o)
93. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
Frenemies is a word that phone arena has used to describe the relationship between apple and Samsung ......... I know what's right and what isn't .... Using the exact english words is not a requirement to reply or comment PA .....that guy sniggly often uses abusive language and he diverts the topic because he knows that he isn't right.......I don't know much about you but you comments indicate that you are a fandroid who is jealous of the most valuable company in the world.......I talk about something only after I use it and compare it .........you are an embarrassment for android users and a person who any accept the truth who doesn't have enough brains to understand that a person who is commenting with long sentences already spends a lot of time on typing so he doesn't look at every single word.......you will remain as you are , a poor and a pathetic fanboy ....... And I am not talking about every fanboy over here, I am talking about those who divert the topic to escape from the truth
94. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I think maybe you need to cut back on the hubris, boyo. I've ignored you and your rants up till now. If you'd really like to throw out insults about me to other people without directly addressing me, I'm sure that I'll no longer show you mercy.
So what's it going to be?
Are you going to kindly apologize, or shall I start adopting a policy of picking everything you say apart?
95. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
i don't respect people who don't accept the truth and people who talk about things that they have never used and compared with the other things..........
i believe in telling the truth, i believe in sharing my experiences......
i know that you want to argue with me........and i know that you can't control yourself
now if dragonstkdgirl argues with me, then i will accept that he/she isn't better than you
now i won't apologize to you because a person doesn't need to apologize for telling the truth.......
i am not interested in arguing with you either because you remind me of Mark twain's quote....
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
now thats the reason why i won't reply to you any more..........you may prove that sentence by replying to me but i will just ignore u....
96. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
There's another excellent Mark Twain quote, or at least one attributed to him:
It goes: "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
I was fine with you saying I use abusive language and whatnot. That's true.
However, accusing me of essentially being wrong all the time, not "accepting the truth," is quite frankly bulls**t.
Oh well. You made your bed. Now you'll have to die in it.
Oh, and one more thing. I don't care if you never respond again. It'll just be fun to point out what a goddamn moron you are for everyone else's benefit so they can all point and laugh at you while in front of their computer monitors.
Have fun! :D
97. theunbiased (Posts: 3; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)
maybe that guy is right, you can't control yourself...........you proved that you are a fool......i can't type long comments like that guy but.....he is right........you replied lolzzzz
98. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Using that logic, I can say that the fact that you replied to me makes you a pile of fossilized elephant poo.
And you type exactly like he does.
Do you really think you're fooling anyone?
99. theunbiased (Posts: 3; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)
no pleeeeease, i am not that guy, i was just trying to type like him, if u want you reply to him, don't come to me, i just came to this page and saw those long comments, i am not interested in tech as much and you and that guy, so when i saw mark twain's quote, i was attracted to it and i saw your reply so i just couldn't stop laughing, so i commented
you just proved his words so i laughed, i am sorry if that made you angry, i don't have anything against you :-)
101. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Well, I'm always happy to give someone a good chuckle.
But I didn't prove anything that he said.
I restrained myself plenty throughout the last couple of weeks as he's commented on stuff. Hell, I ignored him for the most part today.
Wasn't until he started insulting me that I decided to drop on him.
Anyway, have fun reading the comments sections. They're a scream.
103. theunbiased (Posts: 3; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)
but that was wrong to reply after what he said......and he did a good thing by not replying to you, i think he will keep his word by not replying to you or to "dragonstkdgirl"
you should have understood that i wasn't the same guy but i am happy that those words "pile of fossilized elephant poo" aren't for anyone
anyways, i hope that i will have a lot fun reading the comment sections......
106. dragonstkdgirl (Posts: 144; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
Damn guys I take a day off from the tech sites and come back to find half a dozen comments related to what I posted. Now I feel all special smh.
Speaking as one of the very few and far between females with a computer science degree, and one with a VERY extensive background in a lot of areas of tech, I merely pick my phones based on their capabilities, not on their logo. If I want a bigger screen and the best build quality, as well as the fastest internet.... well. I'd pick my Maxx over iPhone anyday. If Apple made a sturdier phone with newer tech and bigger screen and less restrictive app market, then I will reevaluate. But you wouldn't go to Best Buy and buy an old rotary phone instead of a wireless handset, would you? Tech becomes outdated very fast, no point taking a step back instead of forward.
107. Sniggly (Posts: 7280; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Continued kickassery. Once again I salute you.
And I still want the Maxx.
108. dragonstkdgirl (Posts: 144; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
The Maxx is a beast.
I have quickly come to realize that 3300mAh is not enough for me, however. Due to my constant text/facebook/email/talk/wifi hotspot/photo/video streaming/pandora usage, I run through this puppy's battery daily.
.......5600mAh battery, anyone?
This also has resulted in 6GB of data usage in a week, so not only will Verizon probably hate my account by the end of my bill cycle, it has made me more convinced they will have to pry my grandfathered unlimited plan from my cold, dead hands.
113. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)
okay don't care....but i will have the last laugh
111. winthorpe (Posts: 10; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
A generally balanced, reasoned post. Hard to dispute what's written about the iPhone, and there's no commentary trashing Samsung's high-end models. The mountain of down-thumbs is inexplicable. Unless the equally inexplicable absence of English sentence structure just gave a ton of people headaches.
112. BSTManCMc (Posts: 16; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
Customer satisfaction? You mean locked to their device if they want to keep the hundreds if not thousands in Apps and Music they purchased. Go android freedom and go GSIII!!
58. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yup. such is true. Samsung's YoY sales in the US skyrocketed while Apple's plummeted
10. MeoCao (unregistered)
There will always be people hold on to things they know well or have invested too much in. But smart people will choose more value for money, and that is Android.
15. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
Yeah , I see it in android , not Samsung
A HTC one x 32gb cost rm1850 vs galaxy s 3 cost rm2199 16gb (both unlocked ) ?
17. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
If you think about it , rm300 is = usd100
24. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i wont say just Android but i will say Anything but Apple = value for money
44. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
You really hate apple that much ?