Many users didn’t mind the cutouts or at least learned to live with them. Others still hate them with a passion. So, phone makers kept working on other solutions. The slider phones came first — the phone’s screen can be manually pulled down to reveal a selfie camera behind it. These are kind of cool and an odd mix of flip phone nostalgia and futuristic smartphone design… but they do have their drawbacks, like collecting more lint than a velcro sticker in a washing machine and proving hard to make water-resistance work.
Then, we got the super-cool, mechanized pop-out camera. First, it was the Oppo Find X that debuted with such a feature… now, we have it on the OnePlus 7 Pro. Basically, whenever the phone needs to use the selfie camera (when using face unlock or taking a selfie), a mechanized tray pops up and reveals the lens. When it does its job, it goes back in and patiently waits to be summoned again, like a well-trained retriever.
And woosh — with that magical technology, we get all-screen phones that have no notches, cutouts, holes, or whatever else. Just a super-thin bezel and a big display up front. Pretty cool, eh?
Of course, the mechanical tray still has some drawbacks. For one, durability and lifespan are still a bit of a concern. Yes, the manufacturers insist that the devices have been stress tested and everything will be just fine, but hey… Samsung said the same about the Galaxy Fold. Secondly, you kind of always need to be aware that this camera will want to pop up when you activate any form of selfie app, from Snapchat to the Insta stories. And it’s a bi-i-it slower when activating for face unlock, if that’s your thing.
Yeah, the case against the pop-out selfie camera isn’t very strong. So, we thought we’d get the discussion running. Do you actually prefer a cutout in the display or a pop-out selfie camera and a perfectly unscathed screen?
Do you prefer a notch or a pop-out mechanical camera?
Pop-out camera, of course!
Eh... I'd rather stick with a notch / hole
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Pop up camera or teardrop notch.
posted on May 27, 2019, 9:16 AM 2
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It's a no brainer, a popup camera by far. No matter how many selfie pictures you take, it will never equal up to the useable space you get from a clean display. Not to mention watching any video or movie does not look like you are using a broken TV anymore. The stupid notches are the worst. Any serious viewing using those looks like you purchased a broken TV. The tear drop cutouts and Punch holes are not much better. To me no damage on my screen is the best.
posted on May 27, 2019, 9:27 AM 1
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IMO flip up is by far the best -No ulgy notch/mole -Saves internal space as the rear cameras double as front cameras -Cool features like auto panorama (I love my panoramas) -Agruble more durable the popup as the internals are somewhat less exposed Only downside is its thicker But I'd prefer that thicker battery too
posted on May 28, 2019, 4:33 AM 0
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I wish there was a "neither" option that we could vote for lol
posted on May 27, 2019, 9:18 AM 6
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Normally I would have no problem with a pop up camera, but I think another issue is waterproofing. It must be harder or impossible to waterproof a phone with moving parts.
posted on May 27, 2019, 9:33 AM 2
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Dave2D did a review and stuck the 7 Pro in the water with the selfie camera up and guess what happened? The phone will be fine.
posted on May 27, 2019, 10:13 AM 0
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Like rsiders said go look at that video , phone WILL Be fine if it gets wet with selfie camera out , aaaanyways I don't get it why are people showering and taking their phones into pools these days . Even if they waterproof that's something I will never understand
posted on May 27, 2019, 10:34 AM 2
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I’d prefer a notch. A pop up camera requires a mechanical apparatus, which can and will break over time, due to dust and other things getting inside. A notch, like the one one the iPhone, is just there. There’s also waterproofing to be concerned with.
posted on May 27, 2019, 9:34 AM 4
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Jerryrigeverything's teardown proves the Oneplus 7 is waterproof (seals in all the right places) in addition to the videos on YouTube. They just didn't bother to pay for certification. Unless you're a selfie loony the pop-up will last for the useful life of the phone. If you are a selfie nut, you'll probably die walking backwards off a cliff getting that perfect shot therefore the pop-up will outlast you. Lol
posted on May 27, 2019, 11:27 AM 3
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While I do agree with your points darkk I do have one question. Wouldn't that same logic also apply to the S-Pen in the Note series? I've yet to hear about complaints of water/dust damage through the s-pen slot...
posted on May 27, 2019, 1:28 PM 1
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The S-Pen is now proven. Pop up cameras are still kind of a work in progress. I didn't say they can't be waterproof, and can't ultimately work, but those are my concerns. The S-Pen has proven itself.
posted on May 27, 2019, 2:02 PM 0
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I'd rather have a notch. while a pop out camera is a really neat thing, it's just another moving part that can fail in time. the Punch-hole notch is most definitely not an ideal solution, but then i really don't think there really is one until we can place them under the glass invisibly. so basically, pick your poison.
posted on May 27, 2019, 9:36 AM 2
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The difference between notch and hole is huge, putting them on the same option makes the poll useless.
posted on May 27, 2019, 10:07 AM 0
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Always pop up after using the one plus..
posted on May 27, 2019, 10:15 AM 1
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