Do you prefer a pop-out camera or a notch?

Do you prefer a pop-out camera or a notch?
In the past couple of years, the war on the bezels has caused some severe casualties — our screen real estate. Yeah, in their attempt to make a phone’s frame as thin as possible the manufacturers found themselves hard-pressed to fit selfie cameras on their phones’ fronts. So, The Notch was born… and the Punch Hole followed. Basically, these are small cutouts in the display that hold the front-facing camera and other sensors they might need.

Many users didn’t mind the cutouts or at least learned to live with them. Others still hate them with a passion. So, phone makers kept working on other solutions. The slider phones came first — the phone’s screen can be manually pulled down to reveal a selfie camera behind it. These are kind of cool and an odd mix of flip phone nostalgia and futuristic smartphone design… but they do have their drawbacks, like collecting more lint than a velcro sticker in a washing machine and proving hard to make water-resistance work.

Then, we got the super-cool, mechanized pop-out camera. First, it was the Oppo Find X that debuted with such a feature… now, we have it on the OnePlus 7 Pro. Basically, whenever the phone needs to use the selfie camera (when using face unlock or taking a selfie), a mechanized tray pops up and reveals the lens. When it does its job, it goes back in and patiently waits to be summoned again, like a well-trained retriever.

And woosh — with that magical technology, we get all-screen phones that have no notches, cutouts, holes, or whatever else. Just a super-thin bezel and a big display up front. Pretty cool, eh?

Of course, the mechanical tray still has some drawbacks. For one, durability and lifespan are still a bit of a concern. Yes, the manufacturers insist that the devices have been stress tested and everything will be just fine, but hey… Samsung said the same about the Galaxy Fold. Secondly, you kind of always need to be aware that this camera will want to pop up when you activate any form of selfie app, from Snapchat to the Insta stories. And it’s a bi-i-it slower when activating for face unlock, if that’s your thing.

Yeah, the case against the pop-out selfie camera isn’t very strong. So, we thought we’d get the discussion running. Do you actually prefer a cutout in the display or a pop-out selfie camera and a perfectly unscathed screen?

Do you prefer a notch or a pop-out mechanical camera?

Pop-out camera, of course!
Eh... I'd rather stick with a notch / hole



1. Sparkxster

Posts: 1238; Member since: Mar 31, 2017

Pop up camera or teardrop notch.

4. sgodsell

Posts: 7431; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

It's a no brainer, a popup camera by far. No matter how many selfie pictures you take, it will never equal up to the useable space you get from a clean display. Not to mention watching any video or movie does not look like you are using a broken TV anymore. The stupid notches are the worst. Any serious viewing using those looks like you purchased a broken TV. The tear drop cutouts and Punch holes are not much better. To me no damage on my screen is the best.

24. alila2

Posts: 169; Member since: Nov 01, 2011

i prefer meizu 16s approach as a 1st option , 2nd pop up , 3rd a single punch hole and 4th a teardrop.

38. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

IMO flip up is by far the best -No ulgy notch/mole -Saves internal space as the rear cameras double as front cameras -Cool features like auto panorama (I love my panoramas) -Agruble more durable the popup as the internals are somewhat less exposed Only downside is its thicker But I'd prefer that thicker battery too

5. TheOracle1

Posts: 2331; Member since: May 04, 2015

I voted with my wallet and have owned a Nex S for 8 months. Zero issues with the pop-up camera and haven't heard of any problems reported on forums. Fyi the Vivo Nex was the first not the Find X.

2. Fred3

Posts: 561; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

I wish there was a "neither" option that we could vote for lol

17. tuminatr

Posts: 1141; Member since: Feb 23, 2009

I would have voted never but my new job they like to do video conferences

3. User123456789

Posts: 1001; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Full bezel

6. Feanor

Posts: 1379; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

Normally I would have no problem with a pop up camera, but I think another issue is waterproofing. It must be harder or impossible to waterproof a phone with moving parts.

13. rsiders

Posts: 1971; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

Dave2D did a review and stuck the 7 Pro in the water with the selfie camera up and guess what happened? The phone will be fine.

30. Mr_Magma

Posts: 5; Member since: May 21, 2019

Guess what? Other tech youtubers did the same thing and their phones got damaged.

19. LAgurl

Posts: 113; Member since: Dec 05, 2018

Like rsiders said go look at that video , phone WILL Be fine if it gets wet with selfie camera out , aaaanyways I don't get it why are people showering and taking their phones into pools these days . Even if they waterproof that's something I will never understand

7. darkkjedii

Posts: 31286; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I’d prefer a notch. A pop up camera requires a mechanical apparatus, which can and will break over time, due to dust and other things getting inside. A notch, like the one one the iPhone, is just there. There’s also waterproofing to be concerned with.

20. TheOracle1

Posts: 2331; Member since: May 04, 2015

Jerryrigeverything's teardown proves the Oneplus 7 is waterproof (seals in all the right places) in addition to the videos on YouTube. They just didn't bother to pay for certification. Unless you're a selfie loony the pop-up will last for the useful life of the phone. If you are a selfie nut, you'll probably die walking backwards off a cliff getting that perfect shot therefore the pop-up will outlast you. Lol

28. Subie

Posts: 2383; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

While I do agree with your points darkk I do have one question. Wouldn't that same logic also apply to the S-Pen in the Note series? I've yet to hear about complaints of water/dust damage through the s-pen slot...

31. darkkjedii

Posts: 31286; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

The S-Pen is now proven. Pop up cameras are still kind of a work in progress. I didn't say they can't be waterproof, and can't ultimately work, but those are my concerns. The S-Pen has proven itself.

35. TheOracle1

Posts: 2331; Member since: May 04, 2015

I've never owned a waterproof phone and haven't seen a need for one despite going offshore every weekend. Do you guys use your phone in the shower or something? Smh

36. Subie

Posts: 2383; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

@darkk, Good post! Cheers!

40. darkkjedii

Posts: 31286; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Thanx yo.

8. Galen20K

Posts: 577; Member since: Dec 26, 2008

I'd rather have a notch. while a pop out camera is a really neat thing, it's just another moving part that can fail in time. the Punch-hole notch is most definitely not an ideal solution, but then i really don't think there really is one until we can place them under the glass invisibly. so basically, pick your poison.

9. Rocket

Posts: 669; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

I'm not a selfieaholic so pop-out FTW!

10. Rocket

Posts: 669; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Sometimes i have to cover the selfie camera with black tape, actually.. NSA paranoia!

11. surethom

Posts: 1715; Member since: Mar 04, 2009

Teardrop Notch anyway

12. Cat97

Posts: 1923; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

The difference between notch and hole is huge, putting them on the same option makes the poll useless.

22. middlehead

Posts: 458; Member since: May 12, 2014

They're not different in this context. It's "Would you rather lose screen or have to pop your camera out."

14. Eric7779

Posts: 19; Member since: Feb 13, 2019

I almost never use front camera but for face unlock which I find the best for instant authentication. Just for that I prefer the notch

15. medalaster

Posts: 4; Member since: Sep 14, 2010

Always pop up after using the one plus..

29. technut

Posts: 205; Member since: Aug 03, 2012

Agree. At least, until under screen cameras are ready for prime time.

16. legar123

Posts: 59; Member since: Mar 26, 2019

I prefer Samsung. So if Samsung is using its vibranium notches I will prefer that and conversely if Samsung is using the vibranium pop up cam, I will prefer that.

18. Elvis358

Posts: 242; Member since: Mar 25, 2018

I would prefer slider!

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