Forget hinge noise, the Razr vs Galaxy Z Flip benchmarks put Moto's price in doubt

Forget hinge noise, the Razr vs Galaxy Z Flip benchmarks put Moto's price in doubt
All our ears to the ground may be perked up in the expectation of the Galaxy S20 series for Samsung's upcoming February 11 Unpacked event, but what the company means by teasing "innovative devices that will shape the next decade of mobile experiences," won't be just the S-line phones about to be unveiled then.

By now it's become abundantly clear that Samsung is indeed planning to diversify its line of handsets with foldable displays along the Z axis, prepping something along the Razr (2019) vein, called Galaxy Z Flip.



We can only commend its efforts, as, let's face it, only a sliver of users want to lug around a pocket Bible of a phone with a visible crease in the middle that costs two grand to begin with. 

Unfortunately, the eventual Galaxy Z Flip won't turn our foldable display phones pricing notion on its head, as we initially expected. First, we heard that it may be arriving for the equivalent of about $857 in local Korean currency, which is a Benjamin shy of half-the-RAZR-price here in the US. 

Subsequently, however, those million Korean won shot up to million and a half which in its turn is just a Benjamin shy of the Razr's release tag in US dollar terms. That may still be acceptable pricing for a foldable, as the specs of the Flip are actually shaping up to be better than Moto's effort.


Galaxy Z Flip vs Motorola Razr specs and price comparison



*rumored
 
As you can see, the Flip has the larger display when unfurled, the faster chipset, the more memory, and the better camera and battery capacity kits, and if the eventual lower price materializes at the announcement event next week, it could turn out to be the better choice for the fans of the nascent market niche.

Galaxy Z Flip vs Motorola Razr processor benchmark scores comparison


While the Snapdragon 710 is no slouch - it's one of the modern midrange chipsets with 4G LTE modem from Qualcomm - the Snapdragon 855+ that will reportedly be in the Flip is in a completely different category. It's the best in the flagship 8-series for last year and is still to be beaten by any retail device.

Qualcomm revealed at the 865's unveiling that it is done with TSMC's second-generation 7nm process, the same one that allowed Apple to cram 8.6 billion transistors in its A13 chipset in the iPhone 11 series, while the Snapdragon 855 that is in the Galaxy S10 for the US is done at the first-gen 7nm production node, same as the 855+.

Thus, we should compare the 855+ to the Snapdragon 865 scores that are expecting us with the S20 series release, as these are from the same flagship family of Qualcomm processors. When we pit it against the chipset that is inside the Moto Razr, well, you can see for yourself what is happening in the Geekbench scores comparison below.


Bear in mind that these are still not from the retail versions of the handsets but you can expect a similar score difference in reality. In a nutshell, the Galaxy Z Flip, if it indeed ships with the Snapdragon 855+ and 8GB RAM package as the rumors and benchmarks above suggest, will be much faster than the Moto Razr, on top of all other perceived advantages, like, ahem, hinge noise. Any takers?


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Galaxy Z Flip
  • Display 6.7 inches
    2636 x 1080 pixels
  • Camera 12 MP (Dual camera)
    10 MP front
  • Hardware Qualcomm Snapdragon 855+, 8GB RAM
  • Storage 256GB, not expandable
  • Battery 3300 mAh
  • OS Android 10
    Samsung One UI
razr (2019)
  • Display 6.2 inches
    2142 x 876 pixels
  • Camera 16 MP (Single camera)
    5 MP front
  • Hardware Qualcomm Snapdragon 710, 6GB RAM
  • Storage 128GB, not expandable
  • Battery 2510 mAh
  • OS Android 9.0 Pie

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11 Comments

12. pred8er

Posts: 2; Member since: Feb 05, 2020

Will i be able to switch to tmobile if I get it on verizon? Not sure if I can get it on Verizon for the first 2 months on some sort of month to month plan?

6. TerryD

Posts: 566; Member since: May 09, 2017

Not that I'd shell out that much for either but I'd still go for the Moto just for style points. The Samsung might be better spec wise but it just really boring looking, REALLY boring looking.

5. cfbcfb unregistered

Well, aside from being >$1000 phones that likely do nothing my existing 2 year old phone can't do...Motorola stinks at updates and Samsung takes too long to release android updates and security fixes. Hard pass. Phones are now in the same position as PC's. For most people, one a couple of years old can still do what people need with fine performance. After having chromebooks deprecated and phones that were still perfectly good no longer get updates or get them sporadically and late, I've decided to make sure my device can be updated with SOMETHING until I decide its no longer a viable piece of hardware. That means an iphone or pixel device, leaning hard to the pixel as it often is easy to upgrade with 3rd party roms. No more chromebooks, everything has to be able to run something other than Chrome OS. I am done with planned obsolescence.

11. andele14

Posts: 3; Member since: Feb 03, 2020

Hi. Do us a favor. Fold your existing 2 year old phone in half and stuff it in your pocket.

4. MsPooks

Posts: 363; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

Poor Motorola. At least they're out of the gate early, so they'll get some sales before people realize there's something better.

9. Blazers

Posts: 793; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

Lol you’re really a moto hater. You know why people are buying the RAZR. They don’t care about specs, it’s all about nostalgia.

3. andele14

Posts: 3; Member since: Feb 03, 2020

Forget hinge noise indeed. And forget specs on these devices. I own the Razr, got it Saturday. Yes the plastic screen makes a sound when you open and close it. It's a Folding. Screen. People. And Moto still has their Moto Actions, same as on the original Moto X. Have fun opening the Galaxy Fold clamshell Every. Time. You. Get, A. Notification. The Razr, you can keep shut (it shuts flat BTW, the Fold likely will not). I will say the camera is disappointing on the Razr, like really disappointing. Anything but outdoor light, the camera is slow to focus, exposure isn't ideal - this will have to be addressed in an update. Otherwise it's an amazing device.

7. vtpmt81

Posts: 15; Member since: Nov 02, 2018

How is the battery? The camera is disappointing because the camera on the Z4 is actually decent.

8. andele14

Posts: 3; Member since: Feb 03, 2020

Battery is good! Like, much better than the Pixel 4. All day won't be a problem with this phone, I think (only had it two days).

2. tokuzumi

Posts: 2026; Member since: Aug 27, 2009

Benchmark scores mean nothing in the real world. With the primary usage these phones will see (social media, web browsing, browsing videos, texting), there will be almost no discernible performance difference, unless the devices are tested side by side. But these phones are marketed towards different groups. The Razr is going to go for the nostalgia crowd who had the Razr when it first came out 13+ years ago. The Fold will probably sell really well in Samsung's home turf in South Korea. I can see Samsung offering huge discounts with activation in the US.

1. TBomb

Posts: 1768; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

The "clicking" would not bother me at all if I had the device. however, yeah, Samsung's lower price an higher specs ruined Motorola's chances i think

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