Do you think we will see a change now that Jony Ive is gone from Apple?

Do you think we will see a change now that Jony Ive is gone from Apple?
The big news this weekend was Jony Ive leaving Apple. The Chief Design Officer who gave us so many iconic products in the past. He’s not entirely gone, or at least that’s what we are told. Sir Ive will go on to run his own design company LoveFrom, which will still have Apple as a client.

So, we may still get to enjoy his work, either fully or to some extent.

Now, this is where the Internet went crazy with speculation. Some are saying that Sir Ive has been “phoning it in” for the past few years and pinning all of the… “questionable” design decisions on some Apple products we’ve seen lately to him not caring that much anymore.

If that’s the case, then how much passion can we expect from his design team now that they will be working for Apple as an outside entity and not as the core of the company? Do you fear that Apple products will deteriorate in design quality or do you maintain faith that the remaining employees, together with LoveFrom as an outside company, will be able to keep up with the standards they have set for Apple design?

Do you think Apple designs will get worse now?

Nah, they will be good!
34.17%
They are already going downhill... have you seen that triple camera module?
55.15%
I haven't been disappointed so far, but now I fear for the future
10.69%

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43 Comments

1. notfair

Posts: 740; Member since: Jan 30, 2017

Him leaving is a good thing for Apple, btw the iOS looks horrible after he revamped it on iOS7.

2. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

One rumor for next year's iPhone has it coming with a pillshaped cutout in the top center instead of that big ass notch, presumably for a ToF and selfie camera set-up. The square camera module was likely to remain but not in the same spot and with an additional camera. Full screen Touch ID but no more 3D Touch.

5. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Don't drop your iPhone, if you don't want it to get notched.

3. libra89

Posts: 2281; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Ha, I don't have any hope.

4. Fred3

Posts: 521; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

It might be a good thing actually

6. KingSam

Posts: 1449; Member since: Mar 13, 2016

In Rene Ritchie's video he said one of Ive's last project was the apple watch in 2015. He's been working on that campus design and has stepped away from product design for a while now. Change can go both ways so let's see.

7. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I can replace every member of my company in an instant without having my operations affected; Apple is too smart to have unnecessary risks, so I think it will be ok on the long term.

16. wickedwilly

Posts: 694; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

So staff do not affect a companies performance! You make some strange statements.

19. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Of course people are important, but the influence of one of them leaving - even a key one - is almost irrelevant when a company creates procedures.

22. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

You also don't give them incentive to stay.

24. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

And how do you know that?

26. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

Because people like to feel like they matter in a company, if they don't, they'll move on.

27. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Most employee almost never leave, even when they know they worth nothing for the company, because they hate to make decisions (take risks, live in uncertainty) and being employee - in a company were they earn a decent (according to their standards) salary - means they don't have to.

30. wickedwilly

Posts: 694; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

One can be very important in some cases, but I agree generally not. However, you said "EVERY member of your company in an instant". Once again you are changing your tune as you go along.

35. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I stand by everything I say: there isn’t a person in my companies that I can’t replace. Some will cost me money, some will cost me time, but everyone is replaceable.

41. wickedwilly

Posts: 694; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

You as usual stand by your error, which makes you look stupid every time. There is no way in a reasonably sized company that you could fire everybody, without affecting operations. I know you are now trying to turn what you said around to 1 only one person, but that is not what you said or meant. I repeat you said "I can replace every member of my company in an instant without having my operations affected;" not any member or any one member but every member. Every means all, not one, even your English and poor comprehension is not that bad.

43. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

My companies are small enough for me to be able to replace all my employees in an instant, but it's not what I meant; I meant "any" and that is obvious, even if my first message has a poor choice of words (for someone who doesn't know that the word "every" can be used for emphasis - English was invented by British, you know, so you should also read their dictionaries - meaning "the utmost"), because the context is about a single person.

17. Vancetastic

Posts: 1316; Member since: May 17, 2017

I hope they all see this comment.

20. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I make sure I only hire people that know that and act accordingly.

21. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

That must be why you work alone then.

23. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I’m sure you know everything there is to know about my company. Dumb trolls...

28. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

I know that it's imaginary. You don't seem to have a clue about how to run a business, previous comments and not just from today, have made that very clear.

29. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

In my country the number of businesses is 7% from the number of citizen (and I live in the EU country with the highest number of companies/professionals/100k residents); I have 2 companies (a friend of mine had 12) but for the sake of argument we’ll go with 7%; 50% of companies fail in 4y (in 6y the percentage is 80%), which means that only max 3.5% of people really understand how business work. Knowing what I know about me, it’s safe to conclude that you can’t possibly be able to evaluate my capabilities to run a business. When you run a business, you must analyze things objectively, that’s why I’m almost always right and you are almost always wrong.

32. wickedwilly

Posts: 694; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Leo, you believe you are right but are invariably wrong, This is why we doubt your claims to be a CEO and own your even one comapany, which are often verging on the ridiculous.

36. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

My conclusions are based on analyzing facts, they are not based on beliefs as most of the ones that you oppose me. That’s why I don’t give a rat’s ass on what 96.5% of people that know nothing about what I am talking about are thinking ;).

34. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

And with every comment you make you become less and less convincing. Just give it up already.

37. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Well, I’m the only one here that thinks and acts like Apple (google, ms and other companies), so you do the math :).

38. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

And so far you've gone from "I can replace everyone in my company at the snap of my fingers and it would function the same" to saying "Well it takes time, money and effort to replace some of them" which is the reality for most companies, including Apple and the like, which is exactly what we were saying. I wonder how you plan on spinning it next.

39. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Dude, my companies are small, but they have more employees than needed; one of the reasons (I do it for more than one reason) is that I don’t want to have my operations affected by personnel risks (health problems, accidents, death, resignations etc). When things happen, it takes me an instant to reconfigure the workflow so that my operations are unaffected. The “time, money and effort” is on my part alone - that’s my job description and that’s what I have to do as a manager. I’m ending this here, because you can only understand this things, if you spend time educating yourself (and I don’t see that happening). Have a nice, long, happy employee live!

40. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1420; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

I think it's time you get back on your meds, Leo. Your delusions are getting a bit extreme.

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