Android Pie is still at 0 percent, but Google expects its expansion to outpace Oreo soon

Android Pie is still at 0 percent, but Google expects its expansion to outpace Oreo soon
Originally unveiled with the Android O build back when the Oreo name wasn’t even official, Project Treble basically aimed to make it easier and faster for manufacturers to update devices to a new OS version.

But to be perfectly honest, we haven’t really noticed an improvement in Oreo delivery times compared to the spread of Nougat or earlier Android flavors. Some OEMs have done a better job than others updating their new and old phones, contributing to a modest 21.5 percent combined market share for Android 8.0 and 8.1 as of October 26.

Things look even worse for Android Pie, which still hasn’t shown up in the official distribution chart, although Google continues to hope the Treble architecture will make a difference... eventually.

The search giant expects “to see more devices from OEMs running Android 9 Pie at the end of 2018 as compared to the number of devices that were running Android Oreo at the end of 2017.”


You’d think a “feat” like that wouldn’t be so hard to pull off considering a measly 0.5 percent of the world’s active Android devices at the beginning of December 2017 had either launched powered by Oreo or made the move from Nougat. But that microscopic number was actually preceded by 0.2 percent distribution in early October.

For what it’s worth, even if Android Pie fails to hit 0.5 percent share by the end of the year, its subsequent expansion should easily outpace Oreo or Nougat’s own growth efforts. That’s because all devices launching with Android 9 Pie or later “going forward” will be Treble-compliant by default, taking “full advantage of the Treble architecture to deliver faster upgrades.”

No more confusion and no more leaving things up to the individual choice of every manufacturer. The only question we have is why wasn’t this a thing earlier?



1. Ali888

Posts: 101; Member since: Apr 13, 2018

To be honest I look more forward to Samsung's updates than Google's. I really dislike stock 9.0 pie

2. shaineql

Posts: 522; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I’m on OneUI bets atm , it’s amazing, I can actually use phone one handed and it’s sooo pleasing to the eye with no eye strain either

7. andrewc31394

Posts: 302; Member since: Jun 23, 2012

what's OneUI?

3. Feanor

Posts: 1421; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

There is though the inescapable truth that all heavy skins (like Samsung's) mean that you basically run a mishmash of UX designs and features. You get a main Samsung flavoured interface sprinkled with mismatched areas from Chrome, Play etc. Also you get a good assistant (Google Assistant) and a bad one (Bixby). Heck, you even get nonsense like hardware Bixby buttons that you have to just try and ignore. Or you can get a Huawei and its iOS ripoff UX design (embarrassment is a useful OS feature for them apparently). In the Android world you can choose only between Google Pixels, Nokias and Sony Xperias if you want a harmonious UX.

4. JMartin22

Posts: 2390; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

Samsung’s UI isn’t a “skin” - it’s so heavily modified on a framework level; it’s a forked version of Android. People like to complain about the firmware updates being glacial; but they often neglect the fact that these aren’t normal versions of Android. More often than not; Samsung’s custom firmware includes fixes and features not already included in current versions of Android (even if they’re a number division behind the vanilla Android)

9. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

True but skin or no skin, it still means there is a difference from Android (Google) apps and the rest of the Samsung system. And while more often than not (according to you), Samsung's custom firmware might fix or add features, it also adds bugs or leaves out features. Not to mention it adds features already there, like Samsungs own apps doing the same thing as Google apps.

13. cmdacos

Posts: 4333; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

I find Samsung's OS roll outs as far less buggy than Google's.

18. Feanor

Posts: 1421; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

Bug squashing is no excuse for Samsung. My Sony Xperia XZ3 runs Android 9 out of the box and I have encountered zero bugs. Also so called "added features" is not an excuse because they don't make up for the aesthetic clutter and messy details like having two different digital assistants in one phone. It's so cheesy.

16. uberzero

Posts: 53; Member since: Jul 07, 2018

Google apps come bundled from Play Store and Samsung own from Galaxy apps because they manufacture their phones. Both are customizable meaning users have more control.

14. cmdacos

Posts: 4333; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Agree with JMartin. Samsung doesn't care when stock android versions come out. They focus on their own forked version as their OS and that's all they care about. For me, that's all I care about as well. I still get yearly updates from Samsung for an OS update.

12. Chris_ABN

Posts: 198; Member since: May 16, 2018

Me to

5. ECPirate37

Posts: 347; Member since: Jul 14, 2011

If the Mate 20 series sells as well as it seems, it will definitely show up on the charts by the end of the year. I'm loving the Mate 20 Pro.

6. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Looking forward to testing Q early thanks to treble v2.

10. AbhiD

Posts: 856; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

There is something wrong with how google is measuring Pie availability on phones. It's spread is much better than Oreo, yet it fails to show on Google's chart!

15. Shazam777

Posts: 42; Member since: Aug 08, 2018

Perhaps if the'y focused more on making Android upgradable, the'y wouldn't have to change thei'r way of measuring to thei'r advantage ;)

11. Chris_ABN

Posts: 198; Member since: May 16, 2018

Yeah right. I'm still stuck on Oreo. And I hate the Pie's gesture controls. Glad they won't be in Samsung's next big update. Thank You!

17. lyndon420

Posts: 6883; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

They took away the ability to record phone calls with Pie. I'm not going to upgrade until I have no other choice available.

19. p51d007

Posts: 705; Member since: Nov 24, 2013

Unfortunately, it goes against the "business model" the manufacturers & carriers have set up for themselves. You want the latest & greatest, buy a new phone...they don't want to spend the time or energy getting a new OS working on the older systems.

20. DrunkySloth

Posts: 9; Member since: Nov 17, 2018

I appreciate that google have made steps to improve the updates but we still have an absurd issue where for example Sony releases a new version of android for a mid-range model but some people still never get it because their carrier can’t be bothered. I live in England and have had this happen twice. It is ridiculous. Also I was with the biggest network in the UK.

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