VirnetX seeks $190 million more from Apple in addition to FaceTime and iMessages ban

VirnetX seeks $190 million more from Apple in addition to FaceTime and iMessages ban
Back in February, patent portfolio holding company VirnetX was awarded $625 million by a jury that ruled against Apple. The jury said that Apple had used VirnetX's technology for its FaceTime video calling feature without licensing it from the company.  When this dispute was first tried in court in 2012, Apple was hit with a $368 million verdict against it. But the tech giant successfully appealed, saying that the patented technology represented only a small part of FaceTime. 

The suit was remanded back to lower court, which is when VirnetX was awarded the $625 million. On Wednesday, the company returned to court to ask the judge for an additional $190 million. Besides the money, VirnetX now wants the court to issue an injunction that would ban the use of FaceTime and iMessages. VirnetX says that it wants Apple to shut down these features because of "lost sales and reputational harm caused by Apple's distribution of the infringing features." Apple, for its part, is asking for a new trial, claiming that VirnetX's lawyers made some misrepresentations in court.

US District Judge Robert Schroeder III promises to get orders out as quickly as possible. As soon as we hear his decision, we will pass it on to you.

source: ArsTechnica



1. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

This company is greed personified and everything that is wrong with the United States. The Wikipedia summary of the company: "VirnetX is a company described as a patent troll. The company does not develop or market any technology but generates a revenue stream solely by licensing patents it has acquired from other parties. The company has over 80 Internet security patents worldwide, and 100 patents pending." Most notably they have sued Microsoft, Cisco, and Siemens. Basically, a company started by someone with a lot of money, who bought patents off of people, and now survives by suing other companies for actually creating something you can use instead of just keeping it on file without the knowledge to implement it realistically.

2. kiko007

Posts: 7524; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

I mean this is sorta "karma" if you will. As a fellow iPhone user (probably) can we agree that Apple also patent trolls sometimes? Having said that, this company is run by nothing but PoS opportunists and should be put down like a dog who bit a toddler!!! 190 million dollars means nothing to Apple, but I hope they fight this anyway just to spite these smug bastards. :-D!

3. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Two wrongs doesn't equal a right. Apple shouldn't have gone patent crazy years ago even though Samsung did copy some of the iPhone. This company is just scam to the teeth.

12. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Oh, how your tune has changed.

4. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

The difference being, Apple actually develops technology with their patents and has the means to do so. It'd be like if Apple somehow acquired a patent for whatever Microsoft uses for XBOX Live and sued Microsoft for lost profits from XBOX Live.

20. engineer-1701d unregistered

why you got to put down a dog if it bit a toddler, bog protected its self just like humans so we should put down any human that bites meaning all toddlers?

54. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

What are you even talking about?

9. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Apple is a company described as a patent troll. The company does not develop or market any technology, but generates revenue by stealing intellectual property and using it in their products. Most notably they have sued Microsoft, Samsung and HTC. Basically a company who is "shameless about stealing" other people's ideas to make a lot of money, for the hard work done by others that they blatantly stole.

25. French_Toast

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

It's time that Apple tasted his own medicine, the sprinkler is watered !

36. willy.4

Posts: 72; Member since: Oct 14, 2015

But I always thought that that was Apple's innovation at it's best...... That and ripping off University's globally..... and or somebody else's that was a few years earlier and then claims it as there own and will counter sue the other company ether out of business or to comply.... lol

19. engineer-1701d unregistered

funny i thought you where talking about apple there, lifes a bitch apple then you get slapped back funny how no one else has a patent problem with virnetx just a nown copy company finally getting busted

38. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

Disregarding the fact you look like a serial rapist, are you also a blithering idiot? They have sued Microsoft for Skype and also Cisco, among other tech companies. Why don't you try searching outside the comment section of PhoneArena before coming off like a complete and utter idiot.

14. MartyK

Posts: 1043; Member since: Apr 11, 2012

I bet Apple wish it never open Pandora box... lol

21. xfire99

Posts: 1207; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

VirnetX should seek ban sales on devices still using Facetime and iMessages. Until this is over in court. Samsung devices got banned in US because stupid patents: slide to ulock ( which are owned by Neonode), "4 corners". Reminder:

32. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

what is good is, the products that got band were no longer being sold and you can still buy them on eBay and other means. So Samsung already made its money. Whats also good is all those patents with exception of one I believe were invalidated. Funny how in other countries, Apple didnt win any lawsuits at all because their unbias Gov"t didnt see any of them as novel or non-obvious.

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