Validation! Google Wireless planned as data-only VoIP service in late-2013
posted by Michael H. / Nov 17, 2012, 10:35 AM
Wall Street Journal said that while Google and Dish Networks were in talks, there was no deal, and a solid chance that nothing may come of the negotiations.The pseudo-confirmation comes from 9to5Google, so we would be wary of putting too much faith in it. It's hard to believe that in just one day the news could shift this much. On Thursday, the
Now, according to an anonymous 9to5Google source, the deal between Google and Dish is nearing finalization, and the plans for launch are actually well under way, and that the service is planned to go live by mid-to-late 2013. That's a pretty big disparity between reports, and not to sound biased against the blogosphere, but we tend to believe WSJ more on this one.
Still, regardless of how soon or far away the plans are, 9to5Google is also reporting that our dream scenario may be coming true, that Google's wireless network would be data-only and do SMS and voice over data, likely with the help of Google Voice. As much as we are wary of 9to5Google's source, we will admit getting suckered into wanting to believe, if only so our dream becomes reality.
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SIgn me up, please
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 10:47 AM 14
Wow, this is real REVOLUTION! Google Fiber, Google Wireless the pieces come together and suddenly there will be no more cutthroat data plans. Bye bye Verizon.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 11:22 AM 15
Google has different business model, they are in advertising business so they need people to use their services as much as possible. We see that everything Google offers is very cheap or free including Google Fiber, Nexus 4... And I expect the same thing with Google Wireless. Of course Verizon will be there to stay, but Google is pushing hard to make the internet access more affordable and if Google wireless is successful Verizon must change or else.
posted on Nov 18, 2012, 7:56 PM 1
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best have unlimited data , use phones that work on WIFI and cellular using GSM and CDMA LTE ( and wimax just to cover all the bases but wont happen lol) and you can sign me up! (and unlocked phones to)
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 10:53 AM 6
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the only problem is that with google voice there is no MMS unless your talking between 2 sprint customers. If they can get that figured out and talk about national roaming agreements, they will have my ear. I rarely make calls, so a data only service + VoiP is really up my alley.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 11:43 AM 5
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I doubt they will let that go unchanged. Google is smart and tactical. remember Gmail beta? If you do you'll remember that they said it was apart of a "larger project" and so here we are. G Voice may have very well been just that.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 11:49 AM 8
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Google may be a little too late to make their own wireless service with players like Verizon and AT&T readying to do the same thing with VoLTE. With that said, Google's pricing will actually give the companies a run for their money as Google will almost certainly offer cheaper prices. Will these players match Google's wireless offerings or will they bleed subscribers left and right until they get with the program? Time will tell. Currently with VZW' and AT&T's shared data plans one has to pay for unlimited talk and text in addition to paying for data, if they move to having everything done over LTE will they risk charging for talk and text and get undercut by Google or do they stop raping their subscribers and acknowledge that they have competition?
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 12:23 PM 4
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"if they move to having everything done over LTE will they risk charging for talk and text and get undercut by Google or do they stop raping their subscribers and acknowledge that they have competition?" It's for this very reason why I don't think that Google's too late to make their own wireless service. If you've got the money, it's never too late to enter the market. Google's pricing will probably be extremely competitive. Compared to current plans, it'll seem like free, I'm sure. This alone will attract a HUGE number of customers early on, including my family I'm sure. As they build up their network, the holdouts who wanted better coverage will likely be swayed by the better pricing. Again, I don't think it's too late for Google.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 4:50 PM 2
a little spontaneous given the fact that it came from an anonymous source, but im also inclined to believe this is real because I really dont see why the "anonymous" person would give that much info and be lying about it......Unless he is a little spontaneous as well and would just want to see this come to pass.......but Im gonna doubt that and go with what seems to be true..........hopefully it is and we all can make america a better place by freeing up peoples wallets a bit for doing what is pretty basic in the first place......making phone calls!
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 3:48 PM 1
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There are a couple reasons that I don't think this will happen or that it will and flop. First and foremost are the two key resources to delivering wireless phone service: bandwith and infrastructure. While Dish may have some spectrum, it pales when compared to the amount held other wireless carriers and if they are doing a data only network, they are going to need as much as they can. Then of course you have to build a network out from scratch. That means securing leases, running fiber, erecting towers, configuring antennas, building your switching system and NOC; the whole deal which means that a launch date within 12 months is highly unlikely. All this with capital costs in the billions of dollars. Then of course you have Google directly competing with its domestic carrier partners who more than likely will not be too happy and put as much money and resources into promoting their platform. Now some of you would say "So what? People will just use Google's service instead if they want Android." This is assuming that Google, with a marginal coverage footprint to boot, is able to recapture 100% of the existing Android base from other carriers and these users wouldn't simply switch to a competing platform. This would ultimately undermine the growth of their platform in the US. This all plays into doing a simple cost benefit analysis of such an idea. Google along with Dish would take on the operating expenses of a wireless network, which for any quality, will run north of $10 billion per year. While Google has been known to do certain things at a loss as it helps their more profitable segments, I doubt they would see enough of an increase to offset that kind of expenditure. Google is about creating capture points for the data they mine, not the connection to them. If anything, I see possibly a partnership of Dish with Google TV, which makes far more sense rather than taking on the massive task of building out a nationwide wireless network.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 5:34 PM 1
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