Upcoming larger iPhone to have a dual camera for brighter pictures and zoom, new Touch ID sensor coming on both


Apple is ready to introduce its first iPhone with a dual camera system that will capture brighter images at night and record sharper detail, according to long-time Apple insider Mark Gurman reporting for Bloomberg. The new dual camera system will only be implemented in the larger new iPhone, while the smaller iPhone model will ship with a traditional single camera.

How will that new camera system work? There will be two separate sensors that capture color in a different way, but then those two different pictures are combined together for a superior final image. Apart from the brighter and sharper photos captured this way, the new system will also allow users to zoom without losing as much detail as before.

The other important innovation in the upcoming iPhone series is an updated home button. Rather than using a mechanical key that physically clicks when touched, both new iPhones will come with a pressure-sensitive home button that will instead rely on a taptic engine of sorts (similar to what's on the Apple Watch and new Macbooks) that will simulate that clicking sensation.

And yes, the headphones jack will be gone on both new iPhones. This will free up space for a secondary bottom-firing speaker, but will also create a nuisance for owners of traditional headphones that connect via that 3.5mm headset jack. Apple started allowing accessory makers to build headphones that connect via the iPhone's Lightning port the year when it bought Beats Electronics, and the trade-off is said to be better sound quality.

While there will be no major redesign of the iPhone series, Bloomberg corroborates all earlier leaks and says that Apple will indeed remove the inner-most horizontal antenna band line, making for a more streamlined look of the new headsets.

It's worth noting that Bloomberg avoids attaching any name to the new family of iPhones. It seems that the name of the new iPhone series is not settled yet. And since this is not a major overhaul of the iPhone series, rumors have mentioned the phones might not be called iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, but instead - iPhone 6SE and iPhone 6SE Plus.


source: Bloomberg

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1. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

Wait, so bigger aperture and dual camera? Damn I'm actually getting excited. So it'll be sharper, ALOT better in lowlight and have optical zoom. Wonder what they'll do with the new home button.

4. Barney_stinson

Posts: 672; Member since: May 30, 2016

Better from apple!! It will be not able to beat s7 for sure!!;

6. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

Don't know mate, but the rumors and leaks all face towards a great new camera. If it gets an aperture boost for better lowlife photography as well as another lense for even better lowlight shots, optical zoom and gets even sharper. I'm don't know if the S7 stands much of a chance. We will see.

37. sgodsell

Posts: 7514; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Everyone is focusing on the camera stuff. So a home button that is touch instead a physical button. Like that isn't a big change. It will be interesting to see if Apple will give users a 3.5mm adapter or just a headset that has a lightning adapter instead. Still the iPhones display is the lowest resolution display on the market out of all the flagship devices. When I see $200 smartphones offering you a full HD display (1920x1080). Yet Apple is continuing down their path of 1334x750, and this is just a cash grab now. Even their 5.5" iPhone could easily take a QHD display or higher. As far as the dual camera is concerned it is a nice addition. But does it warrant consumers extra cash if nothing else has changed much.

43. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

I think the smaller iPhone has the most problems as far as resolution. The plus variant is fine at 1080p. I'm pretty sure Apple is holding the resolution bump for the anniversary phone. As far as what's changed, its more than just the camera. Remember the processor, Ram, home button, antenna lines, stereo speakers, audio jack removal, possibly water resistant, etc. It just has the same design. I look at the Galaxy Note as similiar.

65. Hoggington

Posts: 356; Member since: Feb 23, 2016

It's just too bad this great hardware is on a proprietary, locked down system, where some basic functions are a chore. I'd love to want to buy an iPhone and switch back and forth.... but I could never go from an open system, to a closed one. With that said, I have an iPad3. And while I love it for some things, iOS drives me insane with how dumb it is on ease of use and basic functions. Anyhoot, cheers :)

15. Kumar123 unregistered

S7 camera is $hit. Even the most "unbiased" tech commenter ever here on PA "tyriontheWise" had said the same thing - S7 camera is pure $hit. You don't want to disagree with the most "Wise" person here on PA because the moment you do that you immediate become the Unwise person. Some samsung fanboys even want him to become a PA writer. So his credibility and knowledge is unquestionable. Anyway Phonearean's own camera comparison also concluded that it's much worse than S6/note 5 and almost as bad as Z5 series cameras. Upcoming iPhone will easily beat S7/Note7.

27. Amroze

Posts: 597; Member since: Jul 04, 2016

TyrionLanister I agree. But S7 getting defeated by ip7, we will have to wait and see. Mr Samsung hater.

33. Kumar123 unregistered

There is nothing to wait for. Last year iPhone is still this years top two camera and S7 is worse than S6/note 5 camera. Even the "normal" version of the iPhone with bigger single sensor will easily beat samsung flagship this year. Yes, TyrionLanister aka tyriontheWise aka now ( you know who, not going to say his current username but it's too obvious) said/says S7 camera is $hit.

49. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Not only are you blind, but you're a liar too. The iPhone 6S camera was rated to be worse than the prior model. The S7 camera was not. The only thing I saw was, do to less pixels, the S7 photo was somewhat less sharp vs the S6, but the S7 takes better low light pictures and it still beats any iPhone period. You picked one article from a hater like you. Yet right here on PA, there were no less than 5 articles that say different. In fact here -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-smartphone-cameras-compared-OnePlus-3-Xperia-X-Performance-Galaxy-S7-iPhone-6s-Plus-LG-G5-HTC-10_id83011 I posted all the links on PA, where it showed the S7 camera is the best, yet this fake article by a hater like you tried to claim otherwise. The writer of that article went totally against the facts showed in 5 previous articles? REALLY!? It not all the PA that's bias, some writers are simply more bias than others. But please explain how in this article, the S7 slaughtered the iPhone 6S -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-vs-Apple-iPhone-6s-quick-camera-comparison_id78549 Here in this article, PA pits the S7 against the Xperia. Again the S7 is unmatched -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-X-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-which-has-the-better-camera_id82099 In this article, PA says the S7 beats the LG G5 by a mile -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-beats-the-LG-G5-by-a-mile-in-our-blind-camera-comparison_id80125 Here in PA's OIS test where they stood in place and spun back and forth, you can see the iPhone oversaturated the white to be pure white which is impossible in low light. While the S7 is more natural. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-vs-iPhone-6s-Plus-optical-image-stabilization-video-comparison_id78753 In this article the S7 beat the iPhone according to PA in every shot but onehttp://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-10-vs-iPhone-6s-Plus-Galaxy-S7-LG-G5-low-light-camera-comparison_id80396 But yet in the article we are reading, all of a sudden the IPhone took a turn for the better while the S7 took a turn for the worse?

28. Amroze

Posts: 597; Member since: Jul 04, 2016

Just like TechiXP1967. He is very knowledgeable.

38. sgodsell

Posts: 7514; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Clearly you are on drugs, because everyone has said that the lowlight performance on the S7 is superior to any iPhone. The pictures come out crisp, and can focus much faster than any iPhone. Clearly you like to show the world that you are a liar Kumar.

41. Kumar123 unregistered

Are you saying Phonearena's writers and tyriontheWise are also on drugs and liars? You need to know the definition of everyone because clearly not everyone thinks S7 camera is better than iPhone 6s/6s plus or even the last year S6/note 5.

46. Macready

Posts: 1829; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

They lack knowledge on the subject at hand, that's what's going on. And apparently so do you.

50. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Yea and I have facts to back it up, which I something trolls like you never have. But wait, Tyron is a Samsunfg hater like you are: In fact here -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-smartphone-cameras-compared-OnePlus-3-Xperia-X-Performance-Galaxy-S7-iPhone-6s-Plus-LG-G5-HTC-10_id83011 I posted all the links on PA, where it showed the S7 camera is the best, yet this fake article by a hater like you tried to claim otherwise. The writer of that article went totally against the facts showed in 5 previous articles? REALLY!? It not all the PA that's bias, some writers are simply more bias than others. But please explain how in this article, the S7 slaughtered the iPhone 6S -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-vs-Apple-iPhone-6s-quick-camera-comparison_id78549 Here in this article, PA pits the S7 against the Xperia. Again the S7 is unmatched - http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-X-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-which-has-the-better-camera_id82099 In this article, PA says the S7 beats the LG G5 by a mile -http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-beats-the-LG-G5-by-a-mile-in-our-blind-camera-comparison_id80125 Here in PA's OIS test where they stood in place and spun back and forth, you can see the iPhone oversaturated the white to be pure white which is impossible in low light. While the S7 is more natural. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S7-vs-iPhone-6s-Plus-optical-image-stabilization-video-comparison_id78753 In this article the S7 beat the iPhone according to PA in every shot but onehttp://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-10-vs-iPhone-6s-Plus-Galaxy-S7-LG-G5-low-light-camera-comparison_id80396

44. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

They S7 camera is slightly better than the year old iPhone. It's not night and day at all. I see the single lease on the regular iPhone 7 matching the S7 in low light and picture quality, but the plus dual lense will be on a whole different level. Otherwise, why bother?

66. Hoggington

Posts: 356; Member since: Feb 23, 2016

It's night and day at night ;) S7 destroys any iPhone in low light.

45. Macready

Posts: 1829; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Tyrion may know his Soc's, but his camera knowledge has proven to be under par, time and time again. The S7 camera is great, as practically every test around the net objectively (even some blind comparisons) has proven. It has a bright lens that combined with the sensor size, makes light gathering class leading (only the Panasonic 1 inch sensor beats it, but that's hardly a regular phone) and so is dynamic range and speed of operation. Lens quality is as good as it gets for a phone (with more consistent corner sharpness than any other phone out there) and Video quality is too. The only area where it loses a notch, is maximum detail achieveable, compared to say a Note 4 with its 4 extra MP and less agressive NR. But in RAW mode, it can make up for most of that and then some in terms of extra shadow detail and less artifacting. Auto exposure isn't free from error, but any user can override that. In other words, a fool could be handicapped there, but if you know what you're doing, that will not bother you.

52. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Please explain why PA dedicated this article to explaining what the S7 camera shouldn't be a big deal vs the S6 camera simply because it has less pixels. The less pixels only have the camera a lesser field of view. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Heres-why-the-drop-in-resolution-between-the-12MP16MP-cameras-of-the-Galaxy-S7-and-S6-doesnt-matter_id79251 But you can read the article. Again its another writer who debunks you. "So what sorcery allows the 12-megapixel unit of the Galaxy S7 to essentially match the 16-megapixel snapper of the Galaxy S6 in terms of detail depth? It's actually exceedingly simple, though you might need a few seconds to wrap your head around it: the S7 has a 4:3 aspect ratio sensor, while the Galaxy S6's is a 16:9 unit." So Now I've provide links to 6 people on PA who say you and Tyron and morons and Samsung haters. Now I have facts to back up mine...WHAT YOU GOT!

53. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Careful there. Like ringing a dinner bell for Techie with that comment.

54. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Should of scroll down. He's already here.

59. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Well I think its wrong to cherry pick one article just because a writer may agree with your own opinion. To me it seems Tyron had his own agenda. He doesn't like Samsung and he went totally against 5 other guys. I don't care which device wins, just be honest in obtaining said conclusion. If 5 writers said the s7 has the best camera, then the 6th who said different, either didn't use default settings, doesn't know how to wrk a camera or has his own agenda.

56. drkuthan

Posts: 76; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

yeah retard androfag in your dreams

19. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

You mean smaller aperture ?

23. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

Oh yes haha

42. JC557

Posts: 1925; Member since: Dec 07, 2011

Kinda like Huawei's "Leica" camera excpt not with a black & white camera. I can't wait to see the results but I'm sure it'll be an improvement over the 6s like almost all iPhones have done each year. I'm more interested in the second bottom firing speaker. As for the lack of headphone jack hopefully they'll ship with an adapter or make one available at a reasonable price.

2. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

And then, all the others will try to do the same.

7. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Im just here waiting the S8 and Note 8 to do dual cam and those Apple fanboys' sun rises again.

9. Amroze

Posts: 597; Member since: Jul 04, 2016

Dumbass.... Htc done this 3 years ago.. Really... Like how Apple with big screen copied the Note series. Like how Apple copied every features from ios5 till ios10.

40. sgodsell

Posts: 7514; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

The LG G5 has dual cameras. Only they are configured differently. One is 16mp laser autofocus, and the other is a wide angle 8mp camera. There is the Huawei P9 that has two cameras, and a number of other devices out now with dual cameras.

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