Top Apple analyst says Android cameras are years behind the iPhone X's TrueDepth camera

KGI securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, has raised his estimate of the number of years it will take Android manufacturers to reach parity with the camera employed on the Apple iPhone X. According to Ming, the TrueDepth camera found on the tenth anniversary iPhone has a lead of about two and a half years over anything found on an Android handset. Kuo had previously said that the iPhone X camera was one-to-two years ahead of the best Android snappers.

As a result of this technological advantage, KGI says that despite limited supply for 2017, the iPhone X will have strong growth in the high-end smartphone market over the next two years. KGI expects 30 million to 35 million iPhone X units to ship this year, down from its previous forecast of 40 million. The drawback for Apple is that the TrueDepth camera is so complex, that producing it is causing delays. The camera powers the Face ID facial recognition system along with the face tracking required for Animoji.

Kuo says that Samsung and other top Android manufacturers need to produce something similar to the TrueDepth camera. Samsung's facial recognition system is based on 2D scanning, not 3D like Apple employs. The 2D technology is easier to fool, making it less secure than Apple's Face ID.

You can go back to February to find Kuo's first assessment of what would be called the TrueDepth camera. at that time, the analyst called the iPhone X camera system "revolutionary." Nearly eight months later, he apparently thinks even more about the iPhone X camera.

source: MacRumors

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1. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Top analyst also predicted in 2017 there will be flying cars We got animooji instead ......

3. BeersAndTech

Posts: 95; Member since: Sep 28, 2015

Stop commenting on almost every post. You're annoying. Logoff.

6. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

10. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

The true depth camera is dope though..

65. seret6

Posts: 279; Member since: Aug 14, 2013

Ming kuo seems like even a bigger moron than u

74. sgodsell

Posts: 7606; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

If Android cameras are years behind, then why do a number of Android smartphones still have a higher DxOMark for video, than the new iPhone 8's? For example the Pixels still have a better video score than the new iPhone 8's. So clearly it's not years ahead. As a matter of fact it's still behind in some areas.

24. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

iPhone X will sell about 50 million units this year alone, that's the entire amount Samsung plans to sell the

36. p51d007

Posts: 705; Member since: Nov 24, 2013

But, ANDROID phones will sell millions more than Apple phones. Apple only has the Apple phones. Android, has every other manufacturer. Samsung, LG, Huawei (which by the way PASSED Apple) and on and on. If it was just Apple & Samsung, Samsung would beat Apple. So therefore, you point, is moot.

42. Justlooking

Posts: 84; Member since: Aug 27, 2014

I'm not sure that they will sell that many this year. I think you probably thinking fiscal year.

43. gamehead unregistered

And yet the S8 is better.

48. sissy246

Posts: 7129; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

So when are you getting your check. I have never seen more people care what a company makes then you isheep.

54. ecmedic4

Posts: 520; Member since: May 02, 2013

And I've never seen more ppl click articles about something they have no intention of buying or even like or care about but trolls, like the first person to comment on this article. And I'm gonna keep calling them out on it, as its ridiculous and annoying for the ppl who want to actually have a conversation with others about something we do like. I don't go in articles about samsung phones and post stupid trolling comments. I actually think the S8+ and note 8 are great phones and if I preferred Android, they would be at the top of my list. There are things I like and dislike about my iPhone 7 Plus, and things I like and dislike about the S8+ and note 8. I unlike some ppl tho can discuss it like an adult, and can also get over the fact that not everyone is going to have the same preference or think that 1 phone is godly and perfect for everyone and has no flaws what so ever and try to push my preference on others. The best phone is subjective. Long as I'm happy with my iPhone then thats all that matters and I feel its the best phone for me. Benchmarks and battery life tests and speed tests are stupid and pointless to me since ppl are gonna use their phones differently. I'm all for talking about tech, but its almost impossible with all the trolls on this site, especially in the Apple articles. And don't say I'm the pot calling the kettle black, because you won't find anywhere that I troll and try to say my phone is better than yours or phone A is better than phone B because X site said so. Who cares, use what your happy with and allow others to do the same.

59. Xilam unregistered

Awesome post. And it’s not just the annoying factor, but it drags you into these petty arguments, I’ve typed so many replies just to delete them without posting - you just have to step back, look at your comment, and realize you’re not at that same level of idiocy - and thus, should not attempt to have a logical conversation with these people. Great post.

56. Macready

Posts: 1830; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Nonsense. Apple is projected to sell 50 million phones as a whole for the quarter during which the X will be in store. But that's for 8 different phones combined (6s, 6s Plus, 7, 7 Plus, SE, 8, 8 Plus and X). Maximum projected production for just the X is between 16 and 18 million. But that was before the rumors of delays popped up.

58. Abdbaas

Posts: 163; Member since: Apr 05, 2016

Yeah and that's 50 millions x $100+ for Samsung. There are phones and components.. Samsung is diversified, a thing Apple doesn't know about. The day iPhone crash, Apple crash

40. combatmedic870

Posts: 987; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

Uuuhhh...its just a camera. Probably produced by Sony. In other news the note 8 camera is 2 1/4 years ahead of the camera found on the iPhone 8....

49. ecmedic4

Posts: 520; Member since: May 02, 2013

If you are simply coming to Apple articles for the sole purpose of trolling then I really hope you get banned. Seriously grow up. Trolls from both sides are getting ridiculous on here. There are more Apple hating trolls than vice versa though. I couldn't care any less that you don't like the iPhone, everyone has their preferences and opinions, but the childish trolling is stupid and makes it difficult for the mature ppl who would like to discuss tech and our likes and dislikes of a product or what the article is discussing. You obviously don't like Apple or the iPhone and have no plans to buy one so why even click articles about it? So you can troll is why. If you want to have a mature constructive conversation then I'm all for it, but if all you want to do is troll and post stupid hate comments then I really hope you get banned.

55. ecmedic4

Posts: 520; Member since: May 02, 2013

My comment #49 was directed toward comment #1. PA's comment system is really finicky. Sometimes it will put "in response to #XX" and other times it doesn't. So the one above was for abdoualgeria

64. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

They right about the iPhone though. Unless these android manufacturers start making their own custom chips soon, it will be two years plus before a snapdragon would even be powerful enough to run such a thing.

2. maherk

Posts: 7054; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Is it the same Apple analyst/insider who predicted the iPhone X will have an under screen fps?

7. aegislash

Posts: 1536; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

By Apple insider, do you mean Bankz by any chance?

11. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Of course he means analyst bankz :D

12. aegislash

Posts: 1536; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

So you don't mind that you have become a joke around here, basically?

20. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

He seems to have mellowed out a bit since his absolute prediction days of old. Maybe he finally blew his load after the iPhone X announcement and after releasing all that pent up frustration, as well as the massive iPhone X boner subsiding, the moment of clarity has finally dawned on him. Let's give him another chance.

16. maherk

Posts: 7054; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

You guessed it lol

13. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

You talked to Dark with everything going on in Vegas? @Maherk

15. maherk

Posts: 7054; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

I did, and thankfully he is safe and everything is going well with him.

19. darkkjedii

Posts: 31757; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Right on my friend.

61. iushnt

Posts: 3174; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

I was searching the comment section to know if dark is fine or not. Glad to know that u r fine.

67. Podrick

Posts: 1285; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

I'm glad you're fine Darkk!

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