The Galaxy S9 is shaping up to be an incremental step over the S8: does that disappoint you?

The Galaxy S9 is shaping up to be an incremental step over the S8: does that disappoint you?
The Samsung Galaxy S9 is approaching its announcement date and, as is now the norm with hot phones, it's being leaked left and right. Of course, it's a good idea to take any leak and rumor with a pinch of salt, but seeing as multiple sources are saying the same thing over and over, and we've seen this play out multiple times before, it's safe to say they are probably close to the truth, unless Samsung manages to pull off a major bamboozle.

And what the leaks and rumors are saying is that the Galaxy S9 will be only a small, incremental upgrade over the Galaxy S8 — slightly slimmer forehead and chin, same frame, same back. The fingerprint scanner looks like it will be placed at the “right” spot and, out of the Galaxy S9 and S9+, only the larger phone would actually get a dual camera module and Portrait Mode (ahem, Live Focus). And no, in-screen fingerprint scanners won't be making it to a Samsung phone until at least the Galaxy Note 9, according to multiple reports.

So, that said, would you say the Galaxy S9 is shaping up to be a disappointment?

Do you like what the Galaxy S9 is shaping up to be?

Yes! Samsung had it right with the S8, a minor facelift is good enough for this phone!
I was hoping for a bigger leap forward, but that's fine
Nope, these phones need a redesign!



1. Justlooking

Posts: 84; Member since: Aug 27, 2014

Incremental steps are just a way to milk the cash cow (fan base). I'm sure non-tech users that upgrade every two-three years don't mind nor care.

5. Boast_Rider

Posts: 536; Member since: Sep 14, 2017

I personally favor iteration over complete redesign of the phone. The reason being that iterative upgrades are an upgrade in every possible way, while complete redesign usually comes with some areas where the phone is worse then the predecessor.

14. daniyal_05

Posts: 93; Member since: Nov 15, 2017

Will phonearena blame upcoming release of s9 and plus version for low sales of iphoneX in the coming months?

17. bucky

Posts: 3797; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

Has the galaxy series ever really affected iPhone sales?

34. firebird820

Posts: 157; Member since: Jan 01, 2017

Yes, with literally every Galaxy S and Note series release. Look it up and actually do some research

45. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Yes it has. Many times. When the iPhone 7 was announced, Galaxy S7 sales increased. When the iPhone 8 was announced, the S8 saw increase sales. When the iPhone 6S was announced, the Galaxy S6 saw increase sales.

37. BuffaloSouce unregistered

Are you that threatened by Apple since you had to bring them up in a article completely about Samsung?

29. barondebxl

Posts: 180; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

Facts. You don't need a compete redesign every year. I think that as long as you keep improving you're good to go. The S8's design is already fantastic

44. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Don't think anyone should upgrade every year. If you look at all phones made since 2007, the upgrades across the board have been incremental. But if you buy a phone every 2 or 3 years, then its actually a real upgrade. I for one always bought each new model each year because I get bore fast. I will from now on wait 2 years minimum.

2. ShadowWarrior

Posts: 170; Member since: Aug 08, 2017

What did you expect? It follows the path of the previous devices: S4 to S5, S6 to S7. The S10 will be the design change.

65. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

The S4/5, look nothing like the S6/7/8 at all.

68. cmdacos

Posts: 4374; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

That was his point (or hers)

3. surethom

Posts: 1745; Member since: Mar 04, 2009

Design Fine, but single Camera on S9 in 2018 lackluster Samsung. No thanks

8. maherk

Posts: 7050; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Pixel 2 proved that single camera is more than enough. If Samsung was able to deliver the same picture quality as the Pixel, then I'd be more than happy with a single camera.

28. Boast_Rider

Posts: 536; Member since: Sep 14, 2017

As far as I'm aware, the S8 and pixel have very similar cameras, with the exact same specs ( 1/2.6" sensor, dual-pixel, 12 MP, with similar apertures). You can rest assured that the S9 will definitely have better camera hardware than the pixel 2. Only the processing remains to be seen.

32. Humanoid

Posts: 1226; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

1/2.5" for samsung

47. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

The S8 sensor is different: Pixel 2 - 12.2 MP (f/1.8, 27mm, 1/2.6", 1.4 µm, Dual Pixel PDAF), OIS, phase detection & laser autofocus, dual-LED flash, S8 - 12 MP (f/1.7, 26mm, 1/2.5", 1.4 µm, Dual Pixel PDAF), phase detection autofocus, OIS, LED flash, check quality Also different after shot processing too.

55. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

Don't you worry, Samsung knows how to make good cameras. The Samsung phones are already better CAMERA phones than Google's Pixel. For instance, DxOMark is rating the Note 8 at 100 and the Pixel 2 at 99.

58. Humanoid

Posts: 1226; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Because of the zoom. Note 8 and iphone have optical zoom. Pixel has digital. Huge difference ...

64. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

So, you think the addition of the marginally used optical zoom takes a review rating from mediocre to 100% top notch world class? Seriously?

70. ColinW

Posts: 413; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

The S8 is a class leading phone not mediocre. Additional camera and other features just solidifies this position.

75. vincelongman

Posts: 5806; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Tell that to DxOMark Zoom has a huge effect in their scoring system DxOMark Photo ratings: 101 - iPhone X 96 - iPhone 8 Plus 93 - iPhone 8 The only differences are the 8 Plus has a second camera for zoom and the X's second camera is much better as it has OIS and a wider aperture

66. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

But that doesn't matter. It's just their professional opinion. Side by side both do well. What the Note 8 does better at according to side-by-side is, its better in low light and it doesn't over-saturate white balance. The Note 8 is also better at retaining details for the telephoto lense, while the pixel is using photo processing after the shot to accomplish the same, and its not very good. The Pixel is better than the Note at the Bokeh effects. The Pixel mimics the iPhone's camera in a lot of ways.

77. vincelongman

Posts: 5806; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Most side-by-side comparisons show the Pixel 2 is superier in low light with better dynamic range, color, details, white balance and less likely to oversaturate While the Note8 has less noise and the zoom lens for good lighting

74. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Pixel 2 on portrait mode only work with human faces. It cant focus objects with bokeh. With dual camera setups you can do that irregardless of the focus object.

76. vincelongman

Posts: 5806; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

That's only for the Pixel 2's front facing camera Since its front facing camera portrait mode is purely software (no Dual Pixels for depth sensing) But since essentially all photos from the front facing camera are of faces that's barely even a downside, especially since its way ahead in other areas such as dynamic range, colours and details

9. AustinPaul

Posts: 159; Member since: Dec 13, 2011

no need for a double camera.

39. BuffaloSouce unregistered

Dual cameras are not needed. Pack in a solid lens and software with optimized software and there you go.

4. ahmadkun

Posts: 688; Member since: May 02, 2016

Yeah actually samasung doing it right with thire new design language since Galaxy S6 .. and it's very nice , there are other phones really needs to redesign, they are totally stuck somewhere !

6. jellmoo

Posts: 2673; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

The S8 is an amazing device that stormed the market with only a few flaws. Fixing those flaws is the best step forward right now. Iterate and improve. Change for the sake of change solves nothing.

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