Tech pundit David Pogue has perhaps the most poignant take on the Microsoft Surface Pro 3

Tech pundit David Pogue has perhaps the most poignant take on the Microsoft Surface Pro 3
David Pogue is very well known tech journalist and has worked for bellwethers like the New York Times. Now he has run of the shop at Yahoo! Tech and has wide distribution beyond the geekdom that some of us may be more familiar with.

Pogue has already spent some time with the new Microsoft Surface Pro 3, he called it, “smart,” and added that this may be the product that lifts the “Windows 8 curse.”  We will save the rants and raves for our own review, but Pogue summed his thoughts up quite eloquently in a 3-minute video that also hammers the Apple iPad mercilessly.

The Surface Pro 3 kicks things up a notch with a larger screen and thinner profile while providing full Windows 8 functionality along with the touch-friendly modern front end. Like the rest of the Surface line-up, the build quality looks solid, and the new 3 has an even better kickstand. The line of Intel chipsets will certainly provide efficient and prompt performance.

Such features are not inexpensive, we all know that, but when you consider the feature set and functionality, and how the iPad 128GB edition tops out for more than what the Surface Pro 3 starts at, it should get a lot of people thinking more seriously about the Surface.

Credit where credit is due, Pogue drives it home by playing Apple at its own game using the old advertising motif used by Curpertino back in the iMac-PC comparison days.

sources: Yahoo! Tech via WPCentral



1. sgodsell

Posts: 7377; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

David Pogue's Windows 8.1 Hands-on Review: I love the part about putting lipstick on a pig.

3. DaHarder

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 10, 2009

So... ? Windows 8.1 is still far more versatile an OS than anything to ever come before as it offers the best Touch-Base Ui existent, yet still affords the use of millions-upon-millions-upon-millions of Windows 'legacy' apps. REAL Applications >>>>>> Mobile OS Apps for those of us who desire to do more than consume media, play games or waste time.

4. sgodsell

Posts: 7377; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

So what made him change. I guess Microsoft paid him. That's what changed.

10. Liveitup

Posts: 1798; Member since: Jan 07, 2014

Who paid you to Troll ?, Google.

16. DaHarder

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 10, 2009

I usually make it a policy to ignore completely ignorant TROLLS Like YOU, but... It takes a seriously pathetic TROLL such as yourself (+ your equally stupid alises) to bring GOOGLE into an article about Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 - You (if even capable) obviously didn't think before you posted. So... The REAL question is: Who Paid YOU to Troll?

18. cc3493

Posts: 158; Member since: Jul 06, 2013

@DaHarder: Liveitup said "who paid you to troll?, google" in response to #4 (its next to the thumbs), that is to sgodsell, not to you. No need to get so defensive and aggressive.

20. DaHarder

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 10, 2009

Noted... and Thanks. Anyway... Looking forward to trying out the Surface Pro 3 as soon as I can - Looks Brilliantly Engineered (though they really should include the Type Cover).

23. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

Blah blah blah and nothing more.

2. DaHarder

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 10, 2009

There's no doubt that the (new) Surface Pro is a brilliantly engineered/realized device, just as its predecessors were, but we still live in a world of consumers (especially in America) where Apple's iPad is to tablets as Kleenex is to facial tissue... though it's far from the best choice for every tablet customer. I'll be buying the (new) Surface Pro as my primary work computer because I have no reservations about stating that my previous Surface devices have been better built, more durable, more expandable, more practical and far more useful as a business device than my iPad1/2/3/4/Air/Mini could ever even aspire to be. We'll soon see how well this latest Surface device fares with consumers... though I'll certainly be one of those 'consumers'.

15. ihavenoname

Posts: 1693; Member since: Aug 18, 2013

Well, that's your opinion. As a tablet, I like iPad Air better than Surface 3. It's lighter, more compact, has higher ppi screen, huge amount of quality apps designed for touchscreen (inc. Office), most likely much longer battery life and I don't really like bathroom-tile-cluttered-mess-look of Windows 8. And while SP3 is undoubtly great piece of engineering, so is iPad Air.

24. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

Imo I prefer the Surface pro. It has a large display, magnetic keyboard and the tiles are big...not these tiny icons that iPad has.

26. bon24x7

Posts: 211; Member since: Aug 30, 2012

comparing iOS to Win 8.1, comparing Apps to Legacy Softwares...And to say iPad is better, you must be nuts..Had you compared MacBook Air to Surface Pro 3, it'd hav been worth thinking/considering, but an iPad to Surface Pro 3? pfft..fanboys..SMH

5. erikiksaz

Posts: 170; Member since: Apr 22, 2010

Wow, the surface pro haters have not filed in here yet, how odd. I'll be updating my SP2 to the SP3 as soon as it's out. I wonder if there'll be a noticeable performance decrease from going to an i3 system, though. I just surf the web and watch videos primarily.

6. fzacek

Posts: 2486; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

I'm actually starting to see how this is a great product. I just with they had put a better processor in the base model, as the i3 might have a little trouble powering the 2.5K display...

17. Penny

Posts: 1851; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

The modern i3 is a great processor, it should have no problem. In fact, for tablet/personal laptop uses, it should be more than adequate. Besides, I'm not sure if the GPU changes between the base level i3 and the top level i7 as it is relying on Intel's integrated graphics, and the GPU is responsible for driving that screen.

7. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Take away the pen from Surface 3 and what do you have? A super expensive tablet that has aspirations of being a notebook computer. The specs are impressive because Surface 3 has to run the hefty Windows OS as opposed to the lighter Windows RT. This is because there are basically no compelling apps for Windows RT. For the people who want a pen, how many of them need to use that pen with Photoshop on a 12" screen? Sure, some of them. But this is a tiny market. Now subtract out those people who want a quality pen, as the Surface 3 comes with a mediocre N-Trig pen. So a tiny market shrinks even further. Ultimately, the Surface 3 is not a good notebook computer, especially for the money. And it really isn't a good tablet unless you have very specific needs that depend on Windows OS apps. Likely most people could get by without a tablet for a lot of these apps, opting instead to use a Wacom tablet/pen with their notebook computer, as many do today. Thus we end up with something that isn't broad and supportive, but more of a niche. Perhaps instead of Surface, Microsoft should have called it Crevice.

9. BattleBrat

Posts: 1476; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Use Photoshop on a MacBook Air, then use Photoshop on a surface pro with its pen, and higher resolution calibrated screen. Yeah, its that important

11. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

I didn't say it wasn't important to those users who need to do this. I said it was a tiny market. Which it is.

30. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Regarding using Photoshop on a Surface 3: "The other problem is performance. The Surface Pro 3 I was given has the i5 processor in it and is essentially the same guts as my old Surface Pro 2. The thing is, now those same guts are driving a larger 12” screen with a stunning 2160X1440 resolution. Honestly if it didn’t feel slower I’d be surprised. There’s noticible cursor lag and stuttering when navigating files in PS and Manga Studio. When moving my pen over to make a menu selection I can see the cursor lagging behind. Working on a comic strip, It feels like I’m dragging the cursor through syrup. Strangely that lag doesn’t seem to be present when I’m actually drawing with the pen touching the surface. Moving around the image also feels slow with some stuttering and screen tearing. Overall it just feels like it can’t keep up with what I’m asking it to do." As for drawing: "The new type keyboard has this cool ability to sort of fold up and snap into place along the lower edge of the device. This makes it feel very sturdy when using it in your lap but had a strange side effect. This new position covers up the location of the Windows button and so MS decided to move that button to the right hand side of the Surface Pro 3. No big deal right? Except that as a right handed drawer this is the exact spot my hand goes when drawing and navigating menus." It just isn't possible to get any dumber than moving the "Windows" button to right where most of the people who draw with the pen will activate it accidentally. Microsoft Design -- "If at first we don't fail, we try and try again, until failure is achieved".

19. Penny

Posts: 1851; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

Windows RT apps are not that bad, and "compelling" is a matter of individual perspective. In fact, the apps that are there, are actually quite good on a touchscreen. I should know, I have a Surface RT. And this should continue to get better anyway as Microsoft's app ecosystems all converge into one ecosystem. And ultimately, your fundamental premise that the Surface 3 is not a good notebook computer is wrong. It actually serves very well as a notebook computer with the Type cover keyboard. Even my Surface RT already achieves some degree of success as a notebook computer because it runs full Office and gives me access to the internet. That's much of the functionality needed by many who need something in the lightweight notebook/ultrabook category that this device would fall into. As for price, the two lower models of the Core i3 at $800 and Core i5 at $1000 are justifiable alternatives to competing ultrabooks. I agree that the higher models beyond this point start to ask for much less justifiable premiums. In summary, in complete contradiction to your conclusion that this device is not broad and supportive, I would argue that it is THE MOST broad and supportive device as it succeeds as both a tablet and ultrabook. That's not a niche, that covers more niches than any competing product.

21. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Products that try to be good at everything end up good at nothing. The Surface really is exactly this -- mediocre at a bunch of different things, excellent at nothing.

28. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I disagree Most people do not take Microsoft's hype serious but ask themselves the question does this device do what I want. 70 percent or more of the people who bought the Surface 2 RT OS tablet give it a favorable rating. enough for Microsoft to continue to make them. 75 to 85 percent of people who bought a Surface Pro or Surface Pro 2 gave them great ratings. I go by what People say who have bought paid money for the Microsoft Surface line. What it is really coming down to is if a person wants to run PC programs on a Tablet. a person will buy a Microsoft Windows 8.1 tablet. if a Person wants a General Tablet and are not concerned about running PC programs on Tablet they will more than likely buy an Apple Ipad or an Android tablet. The MS Surface Pro 3 is I think is the best tablet for those who want to run standard PC programs on their Tablet. it's main fault is it cost's too much money for Low income folks and People on a budget. If Microsoft does bring out a surface Mini it must come out in 2 versions a cheap ARMS CPU version and a slightly higher priced ATOM CPU version both versions must cost 300 to 400 dollars so Low income folks can have a for real MS Windows tablet

25. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

Blah blah blah and hatters gonna hate.

8. apple4never

Posts: 1064; Member since: May 08, 2013

i actually like the SP3 and hope people will open their eyes, why on earth would you buy a 128gb iPad air thats runs a non tablet orientated OS when you can have a friggin full fledged, beast of a thing computer for the same price?

12. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

And why would I buy a good-at-nothing-in-particular Surface 3 when I could buy a Macbook Air and an iPad retina mini for the same amount of money? "So did Microsoft finally create the ultimate single-device replacement for both your tablet and your laptop? Not really. As a laptop, the Microsoft Surface Pro 3 works well, with a sturdier keyboard cover, but it's still not as comfortable to use in your lap as a traditional clamshell laptop, and you still have to purchase the keyboard cover separately, adding $130 to the overall price of the system. Photos and videos look great on the high-resolution screen, but the tablet is simply too heavy and bulky to carry around single-handed for long periods. It'll work great if you always have a desk or a tablet in front of you. However, tablets like the Apple iPad Air, our Editors' Choice for large-screen tablets, and the Microsoft Surface Pro 2, our top choice for Windows-based slate tablets (which will continue to be sold), work better as devices that you constantly hold in your hands all day. The fact that the Core-i5 Surface Pro 2 returned almost the same performance on our benchmark tests and is $300 less expensive is a major mark against the Surface Pro 3. You could buy a premium ultraportable, like the 11-inch Apple MacBook Air, and still have enough left over for an Apple iPad mini for the same amount of money as the Surface Pro 3 we tested.",2817,2458404,00.asp

13. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

wait the reviewer stated they don't mind carrying around the surface 2 yet the surface 3 is lighter and thinner? And cheaper brand new? The article is nuts... No you could not get a MacBook air and mini for the same cost and same performance....not to mention screen realestate. Best part? You have to carry two devices, two devices that do not run the same applications. Here you have a device that if I have a laptop and desktop, I can run ANY app across all three, no different apps, no different UI's...SAME, can the ipad mini run the same x86 apps as the Air? rofl As well lets get the MacBook air on par with the surface 3.... 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz •8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM •512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage •Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide •Accessory Kit That in the apple store is now 1749

22. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

For the apps most people use, the Macbook Air offers a more comfortable, more productive experience than a tablet. For touch apps, the iPad offers a cheaper, nicer experience than a Surface. And far more touch apps. For apps that require pen and touch screen, the Surface may be a good solution. I hope you realize this is a tiny subset of apps that most people use. Microsoft Crevice - for those times you need a pen and touch and want to pay top dollar for a closed system Windows tablet.

14. jojon

Posts: 433; Member since: Feb 11, 2014

SP3....ohhh yeah, i'm in

27. energer

Posts: 2; Member since: May 18, 2014

Boy that DxFFFF guy really gets off on pretending to know anything. Anyhow this Surface looks nice, like the Surface they wanted to make in the first place. The previous iterations definitely did not hit in on the head, and the RT was just too slow. I've always enjoyed the Pro line, even they were at fat wedge of magnesium. If that i5 w/ 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM were just $1099-$1199, I'd be on it. If they do another student discount on these, this guy's buying a new hybrid.

29. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

My major concern is that Microsoft does not sell ANY full windows 8.1 Tablets priced in the 300 to 500 dollars range so that low income folks can have a for real MS Tablet. YOO Microsoft have you ever heard of ATOM CPU"S. Intel YOU STINK TOO your high price for your i5 and i7 CPU's is making quality tablets that run Windows standard PC programs cost to much money for low income People and People on a budget to buy. Intel you have to do better at making quality low costing intel CPU's with good GPU's.

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