Samsung shows interest in Apple's deal with HTC

Samsung shows interest in Apple's deal with HTC
Last weekend, Apple and HTC announced that they had reached agreement on a ten-year pact that involves cross-licensing patents, and the immediate halting of patent litigation between the two. While terms of the deal were not disclosed, the Wall Street Journal reported that HTC was to pay Apple as part of the agreement.

Apple's main rival, Samsung, is interested in taking a look at the agreement that Apple signed with HTC. Samsung wants to know if two of the patents involved in its battle with the Cupertino crew, '381 and '915 are part of the licensing agreement with HTC. The '381 has to do with the bounce-back effect and the '915 deals with scrolling and zooming. Samsung also wants to know if there are patents that Apple tossed into the agreement that it doesn't license to other firms. Apple patent licensing director Boris Teksler calls those rarely made-available parts of Apple's IP portfolio as the "untouchables".
 
Samsung has asked the court to make a ruling on whether it can obtain a copy of the document by November 27th. There is some speculation that Samsung and Apple will eventually reach a settlement of their own. A judge has just allowed both tech giants to add each other's newest flagship smartphones to their second patent battle in San Jose while a post-trial hearing is scheduled for December 6th on issues pertaining to the first trial. Samsung seeks a new trial while Apple wants a permanent injunction placed on eight Samsung models.

source: CNET

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37 Comments

1. mercorp

Posts: 1045; Member since: Jan 28, 2012

Why are they backtracking their words about fighting with apple? Afraid that they will lose apple's demand for parts?

2. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

naa its not about coward ness here.....seems more like "doing the right thing" here bro.........

26. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

I doubt Sammy is looking for a licensing opportunity. More like using Apple's refusal to license the untouchable patents as a way to underscore how unreasonable Apple is. What will be more interesting would be to see the details of the Apple-MS and Apple-Nokia cross licensing agreements. I suspect Apple's untouchable patents are included in those agreements, which would further undermine Apple's argument that they don't license their untouchable patents. As I posted in an earlier article, stock up on popcorn and beer, 'cause this little pissing match ain't over yet. Nothing like both companies going thermo-nuclear on the other.

3. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Actually, it sounds like they want legal ammo to throw in Apple's face when the appeals begin.

5. blackspot

Posts: 102; Member since: Nov 14, 2012

Yeah, I don't see any end to this Apple/ Samsung dispute anytime soon. Honestly, I'm getting kind of tired of it.

8. Mxyzptlk unregistered

They should go the easy route and just do a licensing agreement. If you're going to copy someone then you should pony up the fees and dues.

9. tedkord

Posts: 17417; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

And how much are Apple paying LG for the Prada?

12. SGSatlantis

Posts: 227; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

Hehe, nice one:)

19. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

Whoooa calm down!!! Don't bring up the LG Prada lol,i was banned for a week before for saying the Prada was unveiled to the world a couple of months before iphone. Despite quoting records from wiki etc showing this historically is the case the moderator insisted quite angrily that "Lg Prada was announced AFTER the iphone" All that aside this patent war is getting beyond the ridiculous but unfortunately Apple opened a can of worms when they really should have just got the head down and tried to compete like everyone else

25. Aeires unregistered

That's messed up. Even if you were wrong, if they banned people for posting comments for being wrong, there'd be no one left here to comment.

31. dorianb

Posts: 617; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

LG Prada the REAL Jesus phone of 2007.

15. someones4

Posts: 628; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Give it a rest. Samsung will do no such thing.

36. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

You might as well ask apple to pay for your food and housing as you are doing their promotion full time.

20. OptimusOne

Posts: 694; Member since: May 22, 2012

actually? WHY CAN'T EVERYONE LIVE IN PEACE AND STOP FIGHTING?

32. blackspot

Posts: 102; Member since: Nov 14, 2012

Unfortunately, that's just human nature.

34. someones4

Posts: 628; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Well, first off, it's not your billions of dollars at stake.

35. blackspot

Posts: 102; Member since: Nov 14, 2012

Yeah, but Apple's actions have been speaking louder than their products as of late.

37. someones4

Posts: 628; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

owh... thought you are asking samsung to quit the bttle

39. xtremesv

Posts: 299; Member since: Oct 21, 2011

Same thought.

21. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

They are not back peddling far from it. They want to know the deal so they can use it against them in court.. This article tries to portray that Samsung is looking for deal but if you tread other articles you will know they are not

38. tedkord

Posts: 17417; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If you read other articles, you will know that during negotiations, Apple offered to pay one tenth of one cent per device for actual tech thata phone won't work without, but demanded in excess of $20 per device for shapes and colors. It didn't matter what Samsung did, Apple had no intention of licensing anything, but rather intended to use their spurious patents to ban their biggest competitor.

30. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

It's a.good idea. If apple is OK with HTC paying (for example) $5 per handset for all patents, Samsung could use that as a counter to the amount stated per handset during their trial with apple. That would be "fair and reasonable" (if they don't get the whole verdict tossed).

4. MC1123

Posts: 1256; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

sneaky samsung...sneaky! :P

6. mercorp

Posts: 1045; Member since: Jan 28, 2012

I guess you were all right..

7. ElektronicGeek91

Posts: 105; Member since: Sep 26, 2012

I thought this article was about Samsung making an agreement with Apple.....phew. I was going to be PISSED!

16. someones4

Posts: 628; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Yeah. the title was really misleading. apparently, the deal is just a guideline for Samsung on what NOT to do.

10. Kronic

Posts: 321; Member since: Sep 11, 2012

Losersung!!!

11. tedkord

Posts: 17417; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Sam-one. Number one smartphone manufacturer by quite a bit, selling phones with the number one mobile OS by an awful lot.

13. abish1234

Posts: 51; Member since: Oct 22, 2011

is it just me or phone arena is really slow in reporting news.. (-.-)

14. i_hate_my_life

Posts: 24; Member since: Dec 17, 2010

its weekend dude....

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