Samsung shows interest in Apple's deal with HTC
posted by Alan F. / Nov 17, 2012, 12:10 AM
Apple's main rival, Samsung, is interested in taking a look at the agreement that Apple signed with HTC. Samsung wants to know if two of the patents involved in its battle with the Cupertino crew, '381 and '915 are part of the licensing agreement with HTC. The '381 has to do with the bounce-back effect and the '915 deals with scrolling and zooming. Samsung also wants to know if there are patents that Apple tossed into the agreement that it doesn't license to other firms. Apple patent licensing director Boris Teksler calls those rarely made-available parts of Apple's IP portfolio as the "untouchables".
Samsung has asked the court to make a ruling on whether it can obtain a copy of the document by November 27th. There is some speculation that Samsung and Apple will eventually reach a settlement of their own. A judge has just allowed both tech giants to add each other's newest flagship smartphones to their second patent battle in San Jose while a post-trial hearing is scheduled for December 6th on issues pertaining to the first trial. Samsung seeks a new trial while Apple wants a permanent injunction placed on eight Samsung models.
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Why are they backtracking their words about fighting with apple? Afraid that they will lose apple's demand for parts?
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 12:13 AM 4
naa its not about coward ness here.....seems more like "doing the right thing" here bro.........
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 12:19 AM 17
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I doubt Sammy is looking for a licensing opportunity. More like using Apple's refusal to license the untouchable patents as a way to underscore how unreasonable Apple is. What will be more interesting would be to see the details of the Apple-MS and Apple-Nokia cross licensing agreements. I suspect Apple's untouchable patents are included in those agreements, which would further undermine Apple's argument that they don't license their untouchable patents. As I posted in an earlier article, stock up on popcorn and beer, 'cause this little pissing match ain't over yet. Nothing like both companies going thermo-nuclear on the other.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 9:40 AM 4
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Actually, it sounds like they want legal ammo to throw in Apple's face when the appeals begin.
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 12:43 AM 23
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Whoooa calm down!!! Don't bring up the LG Prada lol,i was banned for a week before for saying the Prada was unveiled to the world a couple of months before iphone. Despite quoting records from wiki etc showing this historically is the case the moderator insisted quite angrily that "Lg Prada was announced AFTER the iphone" All that aside this patent war is getting beyond the ridiculous but unfortunately Apple opened a can of worms when they really should have just got the head down and tried to compete like everyone else
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 8:03 AM 7
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They are not back peddling far from it. They want to know the deal so they can use it against them in court.. This article tries to portray that Samsung is looking for deal but if you tread other articles you will know they are not
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 8:16 AM 2
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If you read other articles, you will know that during negotiations, Apple offered to pay one tenth of one cent per device for actual tech thata phone won't work without, but demanded in excess of $20 per device for shapes and colors. It didn't matter what Samsung did, Apple had no intention of licensing anything, but rather intended to use their spurious patents to ban their biggest competitor.
posted on Nov 18, 2012, 12:59 PM 0
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It's a.good idea. If apple is OK with HTC paying (for example) $5 per handset for all patents, Samsung could use that as a counter to the amount stated per handset during their trial with apple. That would be "fair and reasonable" (if they don't get the whole verdict tossed).
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 1:01 PM 0
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I thought this article was about Samsung making an agreement with Apple.....phew. I was going to be PISSED!
posted on Nov 17, 2012, 1:01 AM 6
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posted on Nov 17, 2012, 4:02 AM 2
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