Samsung and Apple ready to square off in second patent trial starting tomorrow

Samsung and Apple ready to square off in second patent trial starting tomorrow
Tomorrow, long lines will once again be outside San Jose federal court as curious spectators and media try to get a front-row view of the hottest show in town. Yes, that's right. Monday is the beginning of the second Apple v. Samsung patent trial, which once again will feature Judge Lucy Koh presiding over all of the action. The bottom line of the first trial, after Koh vacated $450 million of the first award, and a second jury reheard portions of the case, was that Apple won $929.8 million from its Korean rival. Both sides are currently appealing that decision.

Analysts expect more money to be at stake in the second trial because the devices involved are more recent models. Apple claims that the Samsung Galaxy S III amd the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 violate five Apple patents each. Among those patents are one for universal search (known as the '604 Siri patent) and one for slide-to-unlock. With Koh already deciding in Apple's favor on its auto-complete feature, only the amount of damages will be decided there.

Despite being awarded what would be considered a lot of money to the average guy, Apple did not get what it really yearned for in the first trial. The Cupertino based firm was seeking a permanent injunction against Samsung that would have prevented the latter from selling the offending products in the U.S. Apple will try once again to get a sales ban by calling on the same set of experts that it called to the stand during the previous trial. They will try to show the jury that Apple spent tons of money and put in years of hard work to develop the iPhone only to see Samsung copy it.

Samsung is expected to call on Google executives to discredit Apple's claims, and the trial could run through May. Last time, the courtroom was like a media circus with every decision made by Judge Koh quickly reported by the press. It all starts up again tomorrow with the questioning of the jury pool in an effort to find a jury that satisfies both sides. 

Back in July of 2012, we discussed how the trial would proceed, and the same thing applies to the sequel. You might want to give it another read just to refresh your memory.

source: SanJoseMercuryNews

UPDATE: Apple is seeking $2 billion from Samsung as the former is seeking $40 from Samsung for each device sold by the Korean manufacturer that infringes one of Apple's patents. If it loses the case, the most Apple will have to pay is $6 million for court costs. Not a bad risk/reward ratio.

source: TheGuardian



1. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

Can we please stop talking bout this B.S. Trail and get back to other mobile news? Tired of seeing that damn judge face.

4. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

7. trentsinmypants

Posts: 324; Member since: Jan 29, 2009

Okay, this made my chuckle.....

16. stealthd unregistered

Then stop clicking on the articles and commenting. It's not hard. If you don't like it get out.

17. Ashoaib

Posts: 3298; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

I can easily tell, infact anyone easily can that icourt will give decision in apple's favour...

2. papss unregistered

I'm tired of SS and Apple with this trial. They both should be forced to stop this bs..

13. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010


18. Ashoaib

Posts: 3298; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Why you saying both? Why you are taking samsung's name?? sounds crazy, go n correct your knowledge its apple who is repeatedly bring samsung to the court... ask apple to stop this nonsense n everyone will sit relax at home

3. ihavenoname

Posts: 1693; Member since: Aug 18, 2013

It should be on news when Apple and Samsung don't have patent trial...

5. trentsinmypants

Posts: 324; Member since: Jan 29, 2009

As a fan of iPhone/Apple, I'm siding with the minority here and will say that I'm sick of tired of this BS trial too. The two of them need to settle this crap outside of the courts and move on.....

12. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I think you're in less of a minority stance than you think, and it'll only get worse the longer it drags out. I say treat them like the bickering children they are, see what each side was asking for in their negotiations, and split the difference. If they can't settle their differences on their own, make a decision for them, and if they don't like it, they forfeit any compensation they may receive.

6. willard12 unregistered

"Apple spent tons of money and put in years of hard work to develop the iPhone only to see Samsung copy it." Apple spent a lot of money and worked hard to copy slide- to- unlock from neonode, really?

8. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

Please let's stop just reporting on these crap patent trials. Will have another one next year for the s4 and note 3 etc, the year later will have one for the s5 and note 4.. It's getting boring and don't think anyone really gives a ?

9. Android89

Posts: 22; Member since: Apr 20, 2013

These patent trials are boring it sounds like apple are pissed off that samsung phones with so called less premium materials are selling in their millions each year

14. darkkjedii

Posts: 31328; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

As long as they continue to make iPhones, and notes, I couldn't care less who wins.

19. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

The only problem with thinking that way is that either the devices may lose some of their functionality, the prices of the devices go up, or both. Both of these companies are apparently using each other's patents, so neither is in the right here. My biggest problem with this is going for a sales injunction, if one gets it and the other doesn't, that's bias. And if they do indeed get the injunction, that's removing a competitor from the playing field by legal means, not by virtue of their product or competing on the salesfloor. Both companies are doing well, and there is plenty of business to go around. It's not like it's a one time sale either. People upgrade their devices anywhere from twice a year to a few years. And if Samsung is taken out of the picture, it's not like their customers are going to give their business to the company that took away one of their choices, they'll more than likely go to another Android OEM. So unless Apple plans to do go down the line and sue until they're all gone, they're not going to get the outcome they're hoping for.

15. express77 unregistered

i guarantee apple will win. i dont get it why apple hasnt patented apple(fruit). or are we already paying certain percentage as licence fees while buying and growing apple tree. seriously what kind of law grants patents for slide to unlock.

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