Galaxy Note could have had 800mAh bigger battery and better cameras had Samsung removed the S Pen

Galaxy Note could have had 800mAh bigger battery and better cameras had Samsung removed the S Pen
The S Pen stylus that comes included with every Galaxy Note phone is one of the reasons the whole Note series exists, but do you know that you pay a steep price and you are missing out on quite a few innovative features because of enormous space inside the phone occupied by the S Pen?

In response to our recent article about whether Samsung should reconsider including an S Pen with future Note phones, company insider Ice Universe revealed that according to Samsung engineers he has talked to users are sacrificing no less than the following for the S Pen:

  • With no S Pen, Samsung could have included 800mAh bigger battery
  • S Pen has prevented Samsung from implementing more aggressive camera innovation
  • S Pen has in the past been a barrier to a narrower bezel design


Of course, all of that would have been possible because the S Pen takes such an ample space inside the Galaxy Note series. And while all of this information does not come from Samsung itself (the company is not likely to officially reveal the trade-offs it has made in order to accommodate the S Pen), it does come from one of the most knowledgeable Samsung insiders out there.

And if you are wondering just how much spaces does the S Pen occupy, take a look at the images below:

Of course, the S Pen has its fair share of loyal aficionados that love the ability to quickly jot down notes, sketch, and all the added functionality that comes with a stylus that's always at hand. But people who don't use the S Pen quite that often yet love the bigger size of the Note and its "Pro" phone capabilities, might find it interesting that Samsung goes to great lengths to keep the signature stylus on the Note series.



1. brasstax

Posts: 544; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

I am not an engineer but I am trying real hard to comprehend how the s-pen stands in the way of better cameras unless Samsung has better cameras placed on side bezels.

7. Fred3

Posts: 561; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

Same here... Just from looking at how good Google's camera is. I'm guessing we just need better software... "It wouldn't be a Note without the pen cause we need pens to take notes" lmao.

22. Mike88

Posts: 435; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

If removing s-pen could make it magically better than they can do it in s series but they aren't better than Note. I think PA knows that pixels don't sell well due to the presence of galaxy note which comes around the same time and gets all the attention of people who don't choose to buy an iPhone. So they want Samsung to kill their biggest selling point - the Spen so that pixel gets a chance but I would say, not gonna happen

9. JMartin22

Posts: 2372; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

Maybe it allows for a bigger sensor that’s elongated in design? I don’t know... but the battery benefits are clear. The S-Pen should just be a sold separately accessory if anything. It has its benefits, but only a select few type of individuals actually make use of them. I know when I bought a Note it was just for the bigger display estate


Posts: 138; Member since: Aug 06, 2017

What would make this a "Note" series then? Without the SPen it's essentially just a Galaxy Plus series phone.

31. JMartin22

Posts: 2372; Member since: Apr 30, 2013

It’s been losing its individuality for years now, as more features are ported to the S series or the S series begins to encroach on its display size territory. Honestly, there’s little reason for the Note to exist anymore outside of the S-Pen. They should just discontinue that line up and port all the software features to the S series, with the Pen being sold separately and included with larger productivity based tablets, the latter would make better use of the additional functionality from having a bigger screen estate. It would also give Samsung tablets a new purpose and niche over the phone series.


Posts: 138; Member since: Aug 06, 2017

Everyone I know who had a note waits for the note specifically because they don't have to carry around a separate thing to use the note-taking features.

15. User123456789

Posts: 1008; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

He means that without the Pen, some stuff could be placed somewhere else. Giving space for larger sensors. They dont do it for S to avoid making it better than Note.

47. bucknassty

Posts: 1353; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

S10 5G???

29. vgking9699

Posts: 194; Member since: Mar 01, 2019

It’s not that difficult to comprehend lol Since the s-pen is there, there are parts that could be placed on the side that are now forced to be placed under or above the battery which means for thicker bezels due to the screen ribbon cable needs a place to be They can’t have the screen folder under like the iPhone does cuz apple owns the patent for that technology

33. Larry_ThaGr81

Posts: 592; Member since: May 26, 2011

It's not a Note without the S-pen, end of discussion.

48. hypnoticdcime

Posts: 3; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

I love the pen. I use it on my Galaxy Tab S4 too. Just more precise than your own finger!

52. Phullofphil

Posts: 1822; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

Without the s pen it would just be half year upgrade over the s series. Not buying this any more. They could make the better phone with the best camera and add the pen to it. Cover entire footprint with screen and it will be a little bigger But will sell better

2. LawnBoy

Posts: 198; Member since: Feb 23, 2019

Simple solution. Lose the curved screen. This does eat into the footprint of the phone. Then make the phone thicker. My watch is a couple mm thicker than my phone, btw.

3. Diego!

Posts: 876; Member since: Jun 15, 2009

Who wrote such a silly article? Oh please. S pen is what Galaxy Note lines is famous for. And it's really useful. I use it to write down notes and also to take pictures. I own a Galaxy Note 9 and a OnePlus 7 Pro and the Note 9 is way better than the OnePlus 7 Pro

20. srgonu

Posts: 557; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

Victor, please stop your ridiculous suggestions and let live Note series for its awesomeness.

24. ph00ny

Posts: 2055; Member since: May 26, 2011

two articles in a row. It seems like they're trying to downplay the note prior to its launch.

32. srgonu

Posts: 557; Member since: Feb 13, 2012

That's right. This writer/editor don't know a $hit about android as from what he wrote in the past too. I requested him many times to stop writing nonsense without proper information.

65. chenski

Posts: 774; Member since: Mar 22, 2015

If you read the articles it's PhoneArena, if you read the comments its samsungarena

4. cncrim

Posts: 1588; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Make the phone thicker or just buy Galaxy S line if you complaining about SPen

5. VariableCheapskate

Posts: 173; Member since: May 29, 2019

Oh woe is me the phone has to be a bit thicker, however will civilization recover?

6. Jrod99

Posts: 760; Member since: Jan 15, 2016

Note without a SPen wouldn’t be a Note.

8. BadAssAbe

Posts: 508; Member since: Apr 22, 2011

so the S11 should have 800mAh bigger battery, more aggressive camera innovation, a narrower bezel design?

30. chenski

Posts: 774; Member since: Mar 22, 2015

Lol it prob will have all that

10. pimpin83z

Posts: 591; Member since: Feb 08, 2019

Making it the Galaxy Not. This has got to be pointless articles by Victor day at PA. Just give him the day off.

11. Tipsy.trex

Posts: 20; Member since: May 17, 2016

Yeah, and? If it doesn't have a stylus, it wouldn't be a Note, it would be a Galaxy S device. These are sacrifices we are willing to make because the Note is a work machine, with capabilities exclusive to the device because IT HAS A STYLUS IN THE DEVICE. There are literally ZERO exclusive features not tied to the stylus. I'll give up a hell of a lot of other features to have a big, beautiful display, acceptable battery life and THE S-PEN. Stop trying to make Samsung abandon the best damned work phone and start asking why we don't see this more aggressive battery and camera in non-Note models. This is absolutely ridiculous.

13. Vancetastic

Posts: 1569; Member since: May 17, 2017

What a weird series of articles.

14. User123456789

Posts: 1008; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Go back to 16:9 and do a phone like Sony Z Ultra. That thing can fit everything.

53. mngdew

Posts: 7; Member since: Sep 28, 2011

And how many Sony Z Ultra has been sold?

16. User123456789

Posts: 1008; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Note 8 and Note 9 have almost same size. Battery difference is 700mAh.

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