The Galaxy Note 10's chin is still thicker than the iPhone's

The Galaxy Note 10's chin is still thicker than the iPhone's
Samsung Galaxy Note 10 & Note 10 Pro CAD-based render

Most smartphone manufacturers these days aim to achieve higher screen-to-body ratios with each release. This has led to minimal bezels on flagships paired with either display cutouts, small notches, or pop-out cameras that remove the need for either.

All of these advancements make the iPhone’s large notch look rather dated by 2019 standards, but one area where Apple still reigns supreme is the chin. And, despite the Cupertino giant making no changes to its design since it was introduced almost two years ago, it seems Samsung’s upcoming Galaxy Note 10 series won’t be stealing the title. 

Thinner than the Galaxy S10's but thicker than the iPhone's


Over the course of the past 48 hours, as many of you may have seen, CAD-based renders of both the Galaxy Note 10 and Galaxy Note 10 Pro have emerged online. They depict an all-new design for the lineup that embraces large displays and what appear to be symmetrical upper and lower bezels. These bezels look extremely thin and, because of this, many have been wondering exactly how thin the Galaxy Note 10’s chin is. Thankfully, tipster Steve Hemmerstoffer has cleared up any speculation.

According to the information he has obtained, the chin on the Galaxy Note 10 series measures in at an impressive 4.1mm. Compared to the Galaxy S10 lineup’s chin which comes in a 4.9mm, the thickness represents a reduction of almost 1mm. The number seems even more impressive when compared to the OnePlus 7 Pro, which features a chin that’s 5.6mm thick. 

While Samsung’s efforts are certainly admirable, they unfortunately aren’t enough to beat Apple’s iPhone XS lineup. The latter sports a chin thickness of 3.9mm, meaning there’s a difference of 0.2mm between the two flagships. Naturally, such a minute difference won’t be noticeable when comparing the two devices side by side. In fact, if brought up it’ll probably only be mentioned by fanboys that claim Apple is the best. But if you were simply curious about how the Galaxy Note 10’s chin stacked up to others, you now have your answer.

The Galaxy Note 10/Pro aims to impress


Aside from the impressively small chin, Samsung’s Galaxy Note 10 and Note 10 Pro also look set to feature extremely thin side bezels and a small punch hole towards the top of the display for the front-facing camera. Speaking of cameras, over on the rear both premium devices will reportedly include new vertical layouts that are positioned in the top-left corner. Like the Galaxy S10 series that precedes, the Galaxy Note 10 duo are expected to include primary 12-megapixel snappers paired with variable aperture lenses for improved low-light photography.

Like last year’s Galaxy Note 9, a secondary 12-megapixel sensor coupled with a 2x optical zoom lens is to be expected. Also, for the first time on a Galaxy Note, Samsung is set to include a super-wide-angle shooter that’ll offer a 16-megapixel resolution and support a 123-degree field of view. As an added bonus for the Pro model, today’s renders suggest there will also be a dedicated Time-of-Flight sensor that’ll help with portrait photos and AR content. 


Regarding other external details, both Galaxy Note 10 models are expected to include Samsung’s S Pen along the bottom in addition to a USB-C port, an IR Blaster, and a stereo speaker setup made up of a bottom-firing speaker and the in-ear alternative. Also set to be present are the volume rocker and power key which should both side on the left side of the smartphone’s frame. However, the dedicated Bixby button appears to have been removed from the external setup, just like the 3.5mm headphone jack which is often a fan favorite.

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Galaxy Note 10
  • Display 6.3" 1080 x 2280 pixels
  • Camera 12 MP / 10 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 855, Octa-core, 2840 MHz
  • Storage 256 GB
  • Battery 3500 mAh

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78 Comments

1. slashas

Posts: 132; Member since: Jul 17, 2017

And? How it is impact our lives? :)

2. JCASS889

Posts: 533; Member since: May 18, 2018

Gotta involve the iphone with every other phone

14. apple-rulz

Posts: 2112; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

Kinda like the people in the comments section do.

50. Mike88

Posts: 393; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

It's because every new thing must be compared to the best thing in the market. IPhone XS is a set standard of the best smartphone in the world right now,, so if any other company try to challenge it, it must be compared to see how close they reached

64. dazed1

Posts: 799; Member since: Jul 28, 2015

@Mike88z Google anandtech, open the Samsung night mode article, open the dark wooden thing the dark photo, open the xs photo, open the p30p photo night mode (in whole size-tabs) compare them side by side, lay down, cry alot, stop posting ect.

67. TheOracle1

Posts: 2259; Member since: May 04, 2015

Dream on @mike88. Looks like you're still living in 2011.

77. sissy246

Posts: 7110; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

LMAO Not even

70. Phullofphil

Posts: 1785; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

So f**k what

3. joshuaswingle

Posts: 590; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

It doesn't unless you're obsessed with minor details.

5. AnTuTu

Posts: 1610; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

Dude I like your articles but m sure you can do better than this.

12. joshuaswingle

Posts: 590; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

Look, I know this article is gonna annoy a lot of people because of the usual 'iPhoneArena' stuff. But yesterday on the Galaxy Note 10 render article I wrote I was being accused of being a Samsung fanboy. I can never win in this comment section because it's impossible to please everybody. I saw loads of people asking on Twitter about the thickness of the Galaxy Note 10's chin because it looks extremely thin in the renders but a different tipster said the images were exaggerated. Steve Hemmerstoffer cleared it all up and included the comparisons that are listed in this article, so I decided to cover in case any of our readers are interested. As usual, this news piece doesn't contain any of my own opinions. I reserve that for this comment section but mainly my Twitter account (@JoshuaSwingle).

33. ZEUS.the.thunder.god

Posts: 1113; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

You're one of the actually good writers here so keep it up. Finally someone with Journalistic Integrity on PA.

47. sleepypandaeyes

Posts: 372; Member since: Apr 12, 2015

I agree, plus at least josh comments quite actively and is willing to engage in a conversation. Thought it was hilarious josh acknowledging 'PhoneArena' lol

37. oldskool50

Posts: 1529; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

But, why does it matter if it is or isn't? Its petty to try to start debates. Who cares what they call you. Most of you are Apple fanboys. But at least Victor and Alez don't try to hide it. Who cares what they think. Every idiot here thinks just because you don't like something about their product, you have to be a fanboy. Yet they do it too and get hated to be called fanboys. Most of the fools here are classic two-timing hypocrites. You already know this. Its not about winning, because they've already lost. The S blows the iPhone and they know it. It is a fact regardless of whether you like Samsung or not. The iPhone is a very good phone, but it isn't what it use to be and they know it. Let them soak in their miserable insecurities and their obsession in thinking they have the best simply because they paid more for it. They try to grab on to an lame metric, that when they are behind in, they don't discuss. They have the Jobs mentality. When they get obsessed with something, that is all that matters. People are gonna think whatever of you regardless. Just be you. If they criticize you, just ignore ire them. Because they just wanna get a ride out of you like they do in the comment section. Fanboys are stupid and they always have been and they always will be. Just ignore them, no matter how hard it is. Because the fact is, you never have to argue over something that isn't true. And you never have to argue over something that is fact. And the fact is some of the best products dont sell in high numbers. A Ferrari doesn't have to sell more cars then Toyota for me to know the Ferrari is a better car.

22. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2356; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

“Naturally, such a minute difference won’t be noticeable when comparing the two devices side by side. In fact, if brought up it’ll probably only be mentioned by fanboys that claim Apple is the best. But if you were simply curious about how the Galaxy Note 10’s chin stacked up to others, you now have your answer.” All he did was basically mention something that is going to be used by fanboys as a point of contention. If you actually READ the article there is nothing here to get upset over. Stop just looking at the title and writing a comment.

26. Cyberchum

Posts: 1066; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

Exactly! PA's comment section is populated by sissies. They could spend all day whining over pointless, insignificant, things. People need to step out, every now and then, for fresh air.

41. TheOracle1

Posts: 2259; Member since: May 04, 2015

Would you call the iPhone's fugly notch insignificant? Give me a chin over that monstrosity any day.

32. ZEUS.the.thunder.god

Posts: 1113; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Honestly I don't think it needed a separate article just to say that iPhone has a thinner chin than Note 10, especially considering Oppo has phones with thinner chins than iPhone.

75. karan1402d

Posts: 89; Member since: May 28, 2015

Hey Joshua, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom claims a chin of 3.49mm, and Redmi K20 Pro 3.8mm does that mean their chin is less than Samsung's and Apple's. I am particularly interested for Oppo Reno 10x Zoom chin since it appears significantly thin. Can you clarify.

30. BuffaloSouce unregistered

You can ask the same about Apple haters crying about everything thing Apple does

4. CantEvenWin

Posts: 20; Member since: Jan 24, 2019

Awesome! Im so happy that my new note will still do everything and ya know... WAAAAAAAY more then any iPhone to have ever been released. Apple will have some of the same features in 4ish years. Ya know? Like wireless charging? I need laugh emojis now.

6. Saioofi

Posts: 342; Member since: May 23, 2014

You sound like a 10 year old lol

38. oldskool50

Posts: 1529; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

He could be 10 years old. But he is old enough to know the Note is superior to the iPhone. In fact several phones are now, regardless of how many they sell.

8. JCASS889

Posts: 533; Member since: May 18, 2018

Just change the name of this site to IPhoneArena, almost every article has some reference to the iphone.

9. joshuaswingle

Posts: 590; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

Oh honestly, these comments annoy me so much. My articles never contain unnecessary references to iPhones or any other devices and if you don't believe me feel free to read through the articles I HAVE WRITTEN. If you look at Steve Hemmerstoffer's Tweet, you'll see that he made a direct comparison to the iPhone XS, Galaxy S10, and OnePlus 7 Pro, the same three devices that are mentioned in this article.

42. TheOracle1

Posts: 2259; Member since: May 04, 2015

So what if they annoy you? We're not forcing you to write them. You wrote the article about ios being on 85% of iPhones comparing it to Android and claimed you were just reporting what Apple said. So repeating a distorted fact is ok? You could just as easily have interpreted those "facts" (spin) and put them in context for your readers but chose not to. Go back and look at the comments there eviscerating you. As for this chin issue, it's the most nonsensical one I've seen in a while. How can anyone look at a phone with a notch all day and complain about a ~5mm chin? It's like a one legged man laughing at someone with four toes. Neither are ideal but one is certainly better off than the other.

44. joshuaswingle

Posts: 590; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

"Nevertheless, it should still be pointed out that the Android install base is significantly larger and there is a notably wider range of devices available to consumers from a long list of companies, making it harder to update them all." If you guys just read the titles before commenting you'll never know if I put stuff into context. The same thing goes for today's article.

48. TheOracle1

Posts: 2259; Member since: May 04, 2015

That's not the point Joshua. Android doesn't work that way. The latest Android version doesn't really matter because 1) OEM skins are already two years ahead of stock, 2) Security patches are more important and 3) The only direct comparison that should be made is with the Pixel line. You failed to put the misleading statement from Apple in context for your readers and you know it.

61. joshuaswingle

Posts: 590; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

You're sharing an opinion, though. And my job isn't to share opinions. You believe OEM skins are "two years ahead of stock" but what about all the Android One smartphones that are out there? Or all the Sony and Motorola phones that include a stock interface with only minimal modifications? Security patches might be more important to you, but some would probably argue the opposite. There's also no security patch data from Google and Apple doesn't release security updates, so that comparison is impossible. And even if there was data, it'd be pretty fragmented because some devices receive updates every month, some every two, and some every three. Regarding the comparison with the Pixel line. Sure, it can be done but there's no recent data on that. I'm sure some people would also argue that the Pixel series hasn't sold many smartphones, so achieving a higher percentage is much easier. It's also very likely that a massive portion of Pixel users are tech enthusiasts who are always going to update software quickly, also making for an unfair comparison.

68. TheOracle1

Posts: 2259; Member since: May 04, 2015

Feature wise OEM skins are two years ahead of stock and that's not an opinion. Secondly how many Android One, Sony and Motorola phones even register in sales figures? We're talking Samsung, Huawei, Xiaomi and BBK. That's the majority of Android phones sold and they all have custom skins. Exactly, Apple don't release security updates but Google and the Android OEM's do. Therefore Android phones are updated throughout the year whether it's monthly or quarterly. Whether they're important to me or not is irrelevant but they are pushed out multiple times in a year. It doesn't matter how many they've sold or who owns them, they're the only phones directly owned by Google that runs stock Android and get the updates first. Google don't control the major OEM versions. The title of the article says something like putting Google to shame but that's factually incorrect. It would only be true if the Pixel line was being compared directly with IOS. Again, you've just regurgitated an annual Apple fallacy that would seems plausible to the casual user but is actually fundamentally flawed. You know better but chose to go ahead without putting things in context.

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