Report confirms Apple's decision to use SiPs for next iPhone models

Report confirms Apple's decision to use SiPs for next iPhone models
Back in March, we passed along a rumor out of China that said Apple would be using System in Package (SiP) technology along with a Printed Circuit Board (PCB) on the next iteration of the Apple iPhone. This morning, a fresh new report from China confirms the original story. By using SiPs inside the iPhone, Apple opens up space inside the device for a larger battery.

The SiP technology was employed by Cupertino in the Apple Watch, and the report says that for the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus the tech titan will use both SiPs and a PCB before eliminating the latter completely with the 2016 iPhone. Even though Apple seems to consider SiPs the best thing since sliced bread, if one part of the module is found to be faulty, the entire SiP is bad which means that production yields are often low.

The same report says that despite rumors that the next iPhone models could be unveiled early, with the SiPs going into production this month, it won't be until late September or early October before the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus see the light of day. Besides the SiPs, other technology borrowed from the Apple Watch and rumored to be earmarked for the new iPhones include Force Touch and the Series 7000 aluminum that will prevent a repeat of #bendgate.

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55 Comments

1. darkkjedii

Posts: 30955; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Make it good Apple.

6. Salazzi

Posts: 537; Member since: Feb 17, 2014

They will, my friend. I'm gonna be a proud owner of the iPhone 6S (Plus)*. *Plus model, if it will offer better features than the regular 6S, such as larger battery, better camera, or other goodies.

7. RORYREVOLUTION

Posts: 3131; Member since: Jan 12, 2010

I can't wait to see what the 6S Plus will bring to the table. I have had my share of Android over these several years, think it's time to go back to the iPhone.

19. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Thats a nice technology borrowed from HTC ( who as tech sharing agreements with Apple ) This is a nice news because its will make the phone much harder to break ( as no part can get loose in the phone )

46. JC557

Posts: 1918; Member since: Dec 07, 2011

But like the article said if one component goes bad the whole thing is scrapped. Lower yields may make this a bit more costly initially but at least it'll be very power efficient. I'm curious if there will be any interference with this design as would happen when you cram so much in a small space.

2. Iodine

Posts: 1477; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

A SiP will free up some space for a bigger battery ! With FinFet and iOS 9, I expect some significant battery life improvements ! Really excited about the new iPhone !

35. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Yet the Galaxy S6 has a larger battery and similar dimensions....lol 2550 vs 1810. Apple is full of it dude. Look at the measurements of the phone. The size of the SOC has nothing to do with the battery size. The S3 had a 2100mah battery and the SoC is 20NM just like the iPhone 6. How is it Samsung managed to get a larger battery inside.

40. AlikMalix unregistered

Yep, the S3 had a 20nm just like the iPhone 6. /s

45. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Well actually I was off. The S3 So was 28NM. So I made an honest mistake. But it doesn't change my point. The Six size doesn't dictate battery size. The S3 still has a larger battery vs the iPhone 6 and the S3 was smaller in dimensuing yet had a larger battery.

52. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I hate the auto-cottect in the new UI of TW on the S6. It keeps correcting my abbreviations after I hit post. Grrrr.Should be "The SoC size doesn't dictate battery size.The S3 has a larget battery dispite having a larger sized SoC. We are only talking nanometers here. 28NM is not that much bigger than 20NM. It just isn't.

49. Jamoga

Posts: 187; Member since: Dec 17, 2014

iPhone is smaller in size. 4.7 vs 5.1 vs the thinness. S6 has bad battery life, 4 hours on screen on time also; quick charge is there to compensate.

53. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Dude...its 138MM vs 143MM. Are you saying, 5MM is enough space for the S6 to have a batter that is nearly 40% larger? Seriously? I mean really? What I want you to do is go to an art store and by a "scale" if you know what that is and measure how large a millimeter is.

39. buccob

Posts: 2963; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

Yet they will use it to make it thinner instead... :-/

3. waddup121 unregistered

APPLE MAKE IT GOOD!

4. Dr.SamX

Posts: 240; Member since: Jan 19, 2015

It is Apple! Come on! When have they ever delivered good tech for a reasonable price?? N E V E R ! I bet they will implement a 2400mhA battery and call it a breakthrough! LOL!!!

5. bucky

Posts: 3775; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

You confuse spec wars with good quality.

9. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Yes good quality not best with unreasonable price whatsoever.

20. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

highest % of returned phone after samsung... just reminding you.

8. RORYREVOLUTION

Posts: 3131; Member since: Jan 12, 2010

Say what you want. The iPhone 6/Plus only has 1GB of RAM, a dual core processor, an 8mp camera, yada yada yada. Sure on paper(like always) it seems like Android is lightyears ahead of the iPhone. And yet the iPhone is always more responsive, smooth, lag free even after several months and updates. Seems like android flagship phones typically go off on a good start but after some time of use and an update or two, it slows the phones down and makes them laggy.

10. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

True ios performs better in lesser specs, they why don't they sell iphone any cheaper? Instead of buying 6/6 plus at this time which costs ton, I would get S6/note 4 for cheaper with better specs and better performance.

13. RORYREVOLUTION

Posts: 3131; Member since: Jan 12, 2010

Your argument makes no sense at all. You claim the S6 and Note 4 are cheaper? For example: The S6 costs $679.92 off contract on T-Mobile. The iPhone 6 costs $649.92 off contract on T-Mobile. The S6 Edge costs a $779.76 and the Note 4 costs $699.84 and the iPhone 6 Plus costs $749.76 off contact. There is literally a 50 dollar difference between the Note 4 and the iPhone 6 Plus. All of the phones mentioned you can get for ZERO down if you have good enough credit and pay an additional monthly fee for 24 months. So your arguement is invalid when it comes to pricing. Your argument of better specs, I have already counter argued in my above post. On paper yes Samsung phones have way better specs, but performance? I dare you to go side by side with an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4, it's clear as day the iPhone 6 Plus has better performance. In the long run, it will always have better performance. There's already reports of the Note 4 begining to slow down and hints of lag showing where the 6 Plus is still running butter smooth after 9+ months of it's release.

24. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Canadian price : Iphone 6 16 gb = 840$ Iphone 6+ 16 gb = 970$ Samsung S6 32 gb = 750$ HTC one M9 32 gb = 700$ So... who cheaper priced? ( dont always live with the price you see on review this is mostly US price but for the rest of the world the iphone are overpriced ) But this is not all! Under contract 2 years : Iphone 6 16 gb = 350$ Iphone 6+ 16 gb = 480$ Samsung S6 32 gb = 250$ HTC one M9 = 150$ Again who is the most overpriced? As for performance go on youtube see who open the app the fastest , webpage the fastest ect and you will be surprises to see both the 6 and 6+ get kick in the butt very hard from several android handset. Now for a dual core with 1 gb of ram its impressive but still if Apple would give you the right hardware for what you pay... Take a sec to think about it ok? would your iphone run faster on similar hardware as the S6? ITs would destroy all the competition and would be good for 3 years whitout ever thinking about changing and thats a minimum! Then what you pay for your phone would be truly worth it. Sony Z1 was released at the end of 2013. ( october if i am correct ) Iphone 5S was also released at thats time ( 1 month earlier lol ) Well my Sony Z1 is currently running the latest android lollipop and my battery life increased compared to 4.4 , camera got better , phone got smoother ( in fact there is no lag at all now its feel like a brand new phone ) Still i have load of iphone 5S user complaining of lower battery life since update and various problem lag and bug. Why is thats? thats because the HARDWARE in my freaking Z1 was and still is future proof. Lets put aside all OS fanboy and such and just look at the hardware. For the price you pay an iphone with much worst hardware you could get an iphone with crazy good hardware and the phone would be top notch for 3 to 5 years easily! Thats where i have my personal hate for Apple. They make too much money on you for what they give you. They should give you more for what you pay. Keep IOS keep apple ecosystem if you like it. The issue is with Hardware price vs future proofing of the device. Some will argue ( why have a phone for 5 years ) i will counter by saying if they want to keep upgrade cycle on the 2 years timeframe they need to lower the phone price to reflect what you pay for.

38. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The S6 is 599 on version and 699 for the Edge variant. You simply chose a more expensive carrier to try to prove a point. lol. Also GSM versions of the phone are more expensive vs CDMA models.

54. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Version = Verizon...Darn auto-correct.

47. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Also.try it this way. The iPhone does having amazing performance for musing 2 year old hardware, but it doesn't do much compared to the S and Note. But have you and the fan club every considered this factime - Imagine if the iPhone had the same hardware as the S6. I mean after all you're paying the same price. You guys argue the most ignorant stuff. There is. I such thing as a lag-free computer. NoWHERE. Less than is not equal to none I could care less if the iPhone beat every Note and S in all the benchmarks in the world. But the iPhone doesn't do what a Nite or S does and thus I expect it should perform better. I expect that a GPU pushing 1080p will perform better than a GPU pushing 1440p. I expect that 2 cores pushing one app at a time and out services in the background, should be faster than a phone that has full multitasking and runs services in the background too. Just lole.I expect a leaner smaller jet to be faster than a 747. But. Ring faster is only one segment of. Wing better. The S6 bless the iPhone in ways that have nothing to do with speed or lag. I don't like lag either. My phone doesn't lag as much as my x86 i7 PC that had 16GB of ram, but I can live with it. You k ow why? Because knowing my phone had the coolest design, had the fastest CPU, the highest rated display, more storage on the based model, the best cameras for a phone in this class and have the most open customizable IS next to Windows means more to me that 2 cons of Android. Once Steve Jobs says buzzwords you all repeat them to death even when they don't apply anymore. Geez. You love the iPhone. YAY!!! I use too and now I dont. It's not that I don't like the phone, I don't like Apple milking me for coins for half added upgrades when I can buy a better phone for less.

48. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Oh just one more thing. Considering iOS basically runs one app at a time, yet every version of iOS has rashes more apps vs the older iOS version. In fact when the iPhone 4 CA e our , Forbes stated that iOS had crashed more apps, that all combined versions of Android up to the date of it's release. Even now iOS 8 crashes more apps than Android does It sick to open and app and then it quickly disappears and you think maybe you hit the home button 2 times. So you try again and it dows the same thing. At least on Android it tell you something went wrong. At least where. You install an app it tells you what is accessed. How simple would it be to add default apps. Apple forces you to use their apps even if you install one you prefer. All this lag free BS is just that.iOS is simple. Se.isn't better unless you're 5 years old. Kids need things to be simple, adult need a challenge. The iPhone is a great phone. Apple dows a great job. But foe $200B and counting in cash collecting dust, it should be bettwr. Applea cost is $250 while Samsung spends 290 to make the S6 models. Look how much more I get foe $50. I can look over a few quirks. After all the iPhone has plenty.

14. amasog

Posts: 552; Member since: Aug 22, 2013

blah blah blah blah blah! haha! so go with your s6. note or whatever you want!! don't complain about the price of iphones, as if apple is forcing you to buy their phone. those who buy an iphone want iphone. why buy an android phone if what you want is an iphone? remember, its their money, not yours!! LOL! apple is apple. & apple products are known to be expensive eversince. & even expensive, it sells well. thats a fact!

25. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

If the reason to go for iphone is : More Simple UI thats is easier to learn as its have less built in features. Because you are stuck in Apple ecosysteme. Becaue you like Apple logo and the image this give of you. Well then yeah we should try to make them understand thats there is others options. If your reason is because you like how its work and you are fine with what it give to you and you openly know you pay mostly for a brand then go for it :) My sales director told me its was because he is fine with this and he know its overpriced but still want it. I agree they are expensive and i dont like Apple because its expensive but you pay for nothing.

41. AlikMalix unregistered

ruturaj, you asked the right question. Don't take my point seriously because I'm an iPhone fan /s, but apple also builds and supports its one ecosystem which includes the OS, developers platform and tools, all the contracts with 3rd parties, and it's probably a little more work to PROPERLY optimize hardware WITH SOFTWARE, instead of just throwing a freeware OS on as many specs as you can cram in and hope it won't lag (and that only became possible for android about 2 years ago - when specs were cheap enough and small enough to put on a mobile device). Apple did that from beginning - the only thing that lags an apple device is operating systems that were built for devices that are 3 years newer. On top of that they provide real people face-to-face assistance for free regardless of age of your device (not calling and dialing numbers to get assistance somewhere in Middle East). The experience alone is worth more to some than a few numbers on a check list. I always say: it's simple economics - manufacturers sell devices for maximum they can and people would not buy iPhones if the current price was too expensive. Those that found it expensive switched to android long ago.

11. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Sorry mate but the s6 edge is faster and as less lag and is as fast as it was when it 1st came out, on a small note it's sd card readers that make android phones leggy (not the sd card) due to the damage of the bandwidth of the had over time as it fills up

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